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kingofpenguins
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KDE 4 Portable Applications

Program: KDE 4.0 Applications (Konqueror, KDEedu, ... )

License: Open Source/GPL

Description: The KDE Desktop Environment. Now with version 4.0+, KDE is cross platform, running on not only Linux, BSD, and Solaris, but also Mac OS X and Windows. The desktop shell (plasma) will not be ported to Windows, however all the applications will.

Website: http://windows.kde.org/news.php#itemKDEmirrorsavailableandnewsnapshotrel...

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Ports of KDE and its software are in Alpha/Beta Stage. This website does not handle beta/unstable/unusable software (MPUI being an expection), for several reasons 1.) When the said program crashs we then get posts that go like this

"OMFG I lost my data o no0o0es!"
then the user expects people on this website to magically make it reappear...
2.) This website only creates launchers that wrap the non portable application that only babies it around cleaning the spills it makes in the registry or %appdata% :). for the most part (Toucan and PAM being two main exceptions) so no one here who developers will actually be able to assist in bugs to the core engines of any programs that are "portablized" from the launchers here.

Why would one use a Shell big and clunky as KDE in a portable fashion is beyond my reasoning, dont get me wrong I use kde on my main install of slack but running it from a USB device OMG thats like giving it a death sentence with read and writes.... btw Plasma isn't the actual "Desktop Shell" of KDE, Plasma is only a skin for kde4.x.x series, plastik being the primary skin for older releases... Hope this clears it up.

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kingofpenguins
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Why do I want to run KDE

Why do I want to run KDE applications on my flash drive? Because I can! (or perhaps will be able to ;)). Also, if I could replace all my portable applications with portable KDE4 applications, it wouldn't really matter (for me) that they all require the same libraries and base, which makes them seem bloated at first.

And yes, Plasma is the desktop shell. It is the unification of the panel, desktop, and superKaramba (desktop widgets). It is not a "skin" like plastik was. The default Qt4 theme or style is called Oxygen, and made from the same team who created the default Oxygen icons.

As for the seemingly incomplete or unstable state of KDE4... I didn't request KDE 4.0 packages. Just KDE4 packages. By the time KDE 4.1 will be released, it should be much more stable and feature complete than 4.0.

EDIT: I see that I did request 4.0 packages... lol. I guess that's just because I'm excited and can't wait. Even though Plasma may not be production quality yet, other actual applications (most which are just Qt4 ports of their previous 3.5 counterparts) are quite stable and usable. I have been running KDE 4.0 since it was released on the 11th, and have had no problems with the applications, only plasma and kwin, both which are not being ported to Windows.

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"Because I can! (or perhaps will be able to Eye-wink)"
Lmao!

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Pre-Alpha

Actually, it's more at the pre-alpha stage at this point. And the desktop (Plasma, I think) is not being ported to Windows. Just individual KDE apps. Only two so far. And both in need of quite a bit of work before being functional.

So, yes, it's probably too early to be worrying about.

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Actually, it's more at the

Actually, it's more at the pre-alpha stage at this point.
Still? Wow.

Vintage!

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But it's moving on well,

at least as far as I can see. Downloaded and used the current GUI installer, which I used to download and install a humongous amount of stuff with, which now runs pretty fine. Some things just work, but a few things work in a slightly flaky way.

Not ripe for prime-time yet, but it really might be close. Definitely close enough to warrant testing, fiddling and contribution.

A hint for making it work after installing with kdewin-installer-gui-0.9.0-1.exe: copy the file mingwm10.dll from C:\MinGW into C:\KDE\bin, assuming those are the places MinGW and KDE is installed in your system. Just run a search for them.

My reason for wanting KDE apps portable, is to get closer to *true* portability, regardless of platform.

Executables can't be shared, but it seems like data repositories (e. g. mail files) can, although there may be issues with EOL (end of line) and possibly other character encoding/standard usage things.

To round things off, some (more) tips I got from the main developer about using KDE on Windows from a portable device:

"Just a few notes about usb hd/stick usage:

- Installing kde application on a usb stick or harddisc and accessing from a *different* drive letter on the *same* computer may result in partial data access problems, because some parts in the kde code stores the whole installation path in cache files (like the khelpcenter cache and kde icon cache). A workaround is to delete the .kde/cache- directory.

- the kde user data is located by the USERPROFILE environment variable (you can inspect them by running a console command -> dir "%USERPROFILE%"\.kde), you can override this by setting the KDEHOME environment variable say x:\.kde. All afterwards started kde application will use that directory for storing/retrieving user data."

and

"except the cache files as mentioned above. Because the cache directory contains the computername (cache-) it can live side by side with caches created on unix/mac systems."

Gudmund

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Maybe the linux version

is more stable and should be ported to windows by using WinLin. Blum I don't know what it does Blum Blum

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Go ahead, and report back

when you've got a usable case - what's stopping you Wink

Seriously, do.

Why I'd rather try the ported version, is because I believe the extra layer of running a whole OS and X piggyback in portable mode inside Windows - or for that matter Mac or Linux, if we're talking portability to the full - will bring things to a crawl.

Don't forget the apps, including a whole OS, has to go through USB, then use whatever system resources the whole shebang wants for working. And so on.

But perhaps it will work just fine. I'm curious, but will first try ported KDE apps as a better, native alternative.

Gudmund

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