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Audacity 1.3.x portableSubmitted by temp4746 on March 10, 2009 - 6:18am
I wish you will make audacity 1.3.x version/s portable, Even if its still in beta. The version currently avalible (1.2.6) is extremely old and i really need some of the newer features... ( categories: )
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We should really get on Audacity to just finalize 1.3. It seems that it will be stuck in perpetual beta. We don't normally roll out beta apps (they are beta for a reason) except where testing of them is easier in portable form (like Mozilla apps). The one exception is MPlayer as they'll probably never have a 'stable' release.
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Audacity has a roadmap
Here:
http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Roadmap
It looks like they are only intending for 1.4 and 2.0 to be released as "Stable".
EVERYTHING in between will be beta.
What's weird is that the 1.4 "Stable" release is intended to have less features than 1.3.6 - and then they will follow with a 1.5 beta that has those features turned back on!
It really looks like all the real fun in the app will be happening only in the betas, which kind of sucks if we can't use them.
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Audacity 1.3.x portable
The reason its needed is that audacity latest version will allways be in beta.
The 1.2.6 was appearently done in November 16, 2006~.
A stable release from them is rare, its like saying that you wont use gmail because its still beta
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Some products seem to be quite weird with their defintion of beta and stable...
Common with freeware
It's always been common for freeware to use "beta" as an excuse to say "if it doesn't work for you it's not our fault". Same for using <1 version numbering. Some perfectly good programs are always going to be in beta or the version number will always be below one. I take it to mean a lack of confidence on the part of the developer much more than a lack of quality in the software.
VLC hasn't even reached 1.0 and yet we use that. Because VLC is awesome. But yet it hasn't reached 1.0. So it's basically still beta.
Of course, I understand that using beta and less-than-one is a misuse of the intended purposes of both. Look at the latest beta of Xenon File Manager. Now that is a proper beta. It works, but it's got issues.
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Audacity "betas"
Thats why i really think we also need to have audacity "betas" portable.
The last stable release was something like 4 years and once they release another stable soon enough it will stop getting updates to and we will have to wait another 4 years or so for a new portable version...
Audacity has its own portable version
Just a quick note... Audacity 1.3 has its own portable version.
http://tinyurl.com/dxt3ff
Obviously it won't integrate with the PortableApps menu, but it's certainly a simple solution.
Rob -Scrape- French
Then why not package it as a portableapp? (.paf)
If it already has a portable version why not just package it as a portable app and put it on the site it doesn't even require much of an advanced launcher. just making sure the lame mp3 encoder and ffmpeg doesn't leave any traces.
EDIT: As it seems Audacity will be in a perpetual beta state till the end of time.
Even if they ever release a stable version soon enough they will make another beta and all the new features and development will only be in it for a few good years.
EDIT 2: Do you see what i mean?
Now they released Audacity 1.3.8, Still beta of course we might even have an Audacity 1.3.9 before they release a stable and even after they will quite immediatly plan to release a new beta where all development will take place for a bunch of years yet again. common Audacity 1.2.6 is like 4+ years old!!!
Unstable branch
The 1.3 line (minor number is odd) is an unstable line. 1.4.0 will be a stable release. This used to be normal practise, now it's less common. GnuCash is another which does this.
John has said a few times why Inkscape 1.3 isn't going official: beta.
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Yes i know
Many programs use that convention of version numbering.
But also many suscumb to staying in beta permanently (perpetual beta), Many also after releasing a stable soon after return to beta state again.
It became a ridiculous convention that just confuses people.
Look at gmail it recently "graduated" from beta change and the ONLY change that was done to make it final is removing the silly beta logo, it was completly stable even during the beta phase and even had full documention.
Thats why i think we need Audacity 1.3.x avalible as a PortableApp as its one of those programs that just stays in beta for no apparent reason (similar to what vlc was some time ago) even if audacity has a stable release in the past it seems that all new releases for some time now will be beta and once there will be a stable they already declared that soon new releases will be beta to (releasing 1.5 soon after releasing 1.4)
EDIT: Well what do you know. 1.3.9 was released, seriously does ANYBODY here even bother to read this...
I think they have their on portable version which you can exploit to easily make a portableapps format version.
Guess next up 1.3.10.
See this thread...
http://portableapps.com/node/19705
See that thread. It's the "Outdated PortableApps" thread, and the conversation I am referring to will not be up there long; it's staff's practice to purge replies after a while (usually, when the app being discussed gets updated).
Seems like the biggest issue is the Audacity team's misuse of the term "beta", which we all agree is rubbish. JTH points out that the beta releases lack documentation and translations, the latter of which seems to be the main showstopper.
Nobody here has made an argument that I have seen that says 1.3.x is not stable. In fact, I've heard it's more stable than 1.2.6. Neither of them have crashed on me or done anything weird, but in any case, it's silly to hold back because Audacity is slacking on the translations. PortableApps.com has its own translators anyway, for the platform at least. Drop the English language file and have people translate it. I disagree that the lack of translation should be a showstopper, though.
Furthermore, JTH said there that a "beta" release here on PortableApps.com is not out of the question. It just won't work with the updater. Probably won't be featured on the main page, either. But hey, that's fine.
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