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Gmail - POP3 of IMAP

I cant activate IMAP in thunderbird.

Is IMAP better Than POP3 or is it not so good in this portable version.

I was told that IMAP does not save the mail into thunderbird(TP). so with TP you cant take unread mail with you and you cant read it offline. i need to do this. I am Using Dial-up.

So is it POP3 or IMAP???

Let me know any thoughts you have.

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IMAP vs POP3

POP3 downloads to the email client (whether portable or local install) for viewing online or offline.

IMAP is basically a connection the email server, where you view the email that is stored on the server without access to it while offline. I was able to activate IMAP access in TB PE when I was using it as my primary portable email so as long as you have the correct settings entered it should work for you. There are a few more steps to take for GMAIL besides setting it up in TB, see GMAIL's website about setting your access as either POP3 or IMAP.

I have no preference as to which is 'better'. While I am away from my primary computer I use portable email via Spicebird PE Beta https://portableapps.com/node/10937 to access my POP3 account and my IMAP accounts. Sorry I can't be of any more help. :oS

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even with imap ...

you can take it with you if you download it the local folders. Or like I do for my usenet, I download all the posts to read offline.

I like imap because it does leave it on the server. I've got a super huge amount of server space, so that works for me. I archive the email online until I need to move it to my backup usb.

For folks with dial-up, like I used to be, I still think IMAP is good.

For setting up your imap, have you gone through all the settings correctly found here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77662

Are you getting any particular error messages?

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I use IMAP

because I check my email using different methods. If I don't have my USB drive, I check it online, at work using TBPE, and on-the-go using my phone. If I where to use POP3, my email would be all over the place.

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I have problems with TBP and Gmail IMAP

I have set up TBP to access Gmail via IMAP. Everything seems to work OK until I try to access the email off-line. Even though I download the emails for veiwing offline, when I open TBP in off-line mode, none of the gmail folders is listed under the gmail account.

I also download Newsgroup messages and they are accessable but not the email. I have tried other email programs and they seem to work OK so I don't know what the problem with TBP is.

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I recommend IMAP To access

I recommend IMAP

To access emails offline simply move them into a local folder.

This way you can read your emails offline, write your responses and save them to your offline draft folder then send them when you get back on net.

For me IMAP vs POP3

IMAP wins hands down

See here for a better explanation why IMAP is better

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newsgroups ...

sometimes give my tpb problems. I don't know if it is related to the USB access, but on rare occassions, even when I did a whole download, it wouldn't do it. I finally did it manually, where I would go into the newsgroup, select all, and download selected, and that would always give me all the messages.

As for me gmail, I've never had any problem w/ imap on tbp.

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this is normal

>have set up TBP to access Gmail via IMAP. Everything seems to work OK until I try to access the email off-line. Even though I download the emails for veiwing offline, when I open TBP in off-line mode, none of the gmail folders is listed under the gmail account.

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I thoroughly disagree. This

I thoroughly disagree. This is not normal. No other IMAP client I know of that has local stores does this. Every other one I've used keeps the emails on the local drive so you can read/repy/etc. offline. That's the whole point of the offline setting. The latest version of TB 2.0.0.18 rev2 does not store offline emails correctly.

The pre-2.0.0.18 version failed to follow the offline settings from time to time, and the problem has either gotten worse with 2.0.0.18 rev2, or has been broken completely. Unfortunately, I'm not 100% sure that the latest version has never worked correctly to say that it is totally broken.

I think replies to this should be posted in the "Problem reading email offline" thread: https://portableapps.com/node/12793

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As a recent Gmail user I find IMAP superior to POP

When using TBP on a flash drive I have a limited amount of space. Since I get over 100 emails daily, some with large attachments, IMAP is, for me, the only way to go. Leaving the file on the server lets me go online and read it where ever I am. I also use more than one flash drive & several desktop computers depending upon where I am. Using POP would not work due to the space constraints. The previous poster suggested moving the message to the local folder and that is a solution for offline reading but if it is moved it can no longer be read from other machines, flash drives, etc. I copy the files regularly to a local server folder, one for each account & I have several for different purposes, & do not delete them from the server until they are outdated or the server files are becoming to large. Having lived through local machine crashes & the odd ISP server crash over the years copies in multiple locations gives some crash recovery protection. I prefer IMAP over the webmail offerings of my various ISP's as I can preview a questionable message in text mode using Ctrl+U, in TB or TBP, without exposing my machine to possible trouble. At least it reduces the exposure since total protection does not really exist. If it has a country stamp I am not communicating with or any other section that creates suspicion on my part the message is simply deleted. The various spam, junk mail, etc. filters help but there is still no real competition to actually looking at the message and deciding for yourself. BTW of all the messages coming in only a small number,

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yes right

>The previous poster suggested moving the message to the local folder and that is a solution for offline reading but if it is moved it can no longer be read from other machines,

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well

I have a Gmail account and use TBP in pop3(only because i have a dialup connection at home) From gmails site I set it to keep a backup/archive of any emails i download to pop 3 so i can always go into gmails webmail site and look them up if i am on the net and without my flash drive or accidently delete the mail. Pop3 is still the way to go for those of us who have to/prefer to use dialup for whatever reason.

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IMAP in general is better, but ...

I agree that IMAP is better, but IMAP and offline storage in TBP 2.0.0.18rev2 is broken.

Ray

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I have just tried again

I have set up the same IMAP account on my Outllok and in TB.
When I am connecteed to internet, then I can open the folders and the inbox and can see all the messages inside. Also in Outlook I have to copy the messages to local folder by hand otherwise I will not see them later.

When I am offline, I can not see anything, not even the folders in both I am getting an error message that the server could not be reached.

In both, outlook and tb, I have to copy the message while I see it on the screen to a local folder to be able to see it when I am offline.
Since when I am offline, the IMAP accounts simply are not existing, can not be, they are on the server and not on my computer after all.

But this is after all the point of IMAP, have all on the server and work onliine, if by an exeption the offline work is needed, make a local copy of all.

Otto Sykora
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Still missing the point

What you describe is standard, always connected to the net, IMAP client behavior. It is not the correct behavior for an IMAP client that supposedly be set to keep the local copies. That is the point of the offline settings. This is the way TB used to work, and it's the way that the first version of TBP I had worked. Saving the messages for offline use is also the way that Apple's Mail and Eudora work with IMAP accounts. There is no reason TBP can't keep the emails from an IMAP account for offline use, especially when that's an option you can turn on.

Ray

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