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To JAVA or not to JAVA..

I am an avid user of Portable Apps and I cannot 'live' without my 8 Gb flashdrive anymore, using it at home and at the office. However, since a few weeks the office (=hospital) have renewed all pc's with standard software but also making it impossible to install any other software. I can understand this necessity (support other software etc) but for me this means that I can't download Java which I need for numerous websites. (I need administrator rights.. :))

Following your guidelines I have searched the forum, but I don't seem to find the answer to my question..

Thank you and regards,
Sjoerd

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You can use portable java,

You can use portable java, and use java in common files for openoffice and others.

But firefox will not have java (it always use the local and there's no way to change that.)

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...sigh.. I was afraid of

...sigh..
I was afraid of that! Sad
Thx fr yr quick reply

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Is it possible that Seamonkey

Is it possible that Seamonkey can do it on the off chance?

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that I don't know. There was

that I don't know. There was a seamonkey launcher but it was only for v2. I'm not sure if that finally made it to beta or pre-release.

You might try it, or post in the thread asking if it works.

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Nope

It's the Java plugin itself (which is closed source) that looks for the local Java via a registry key. It can be temporarily changed to point to the portable one, but only with admin rights.

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Maybe work with Mozilla?

Maybe we can work with Mozilla and ask them to create a firefox build that looks for portable java?

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Not Firefox

Again, it's not anything in Firefox or our launcher. It's the Java plugin for Firefox. It's closed source and done by Sun.

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Oh my bad

did not read above comments thoroughly.

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So how do you modify the plug

So how do you modify the plug in to look to a portable location?

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you can't.

you can't.

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Is there a way to disable the

Is there a way to disable the message in Firefox: 'Additional plugs are required bladiebla' which I get for not having Java?
thx, Sjoerd

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So what's the point of having

So what's the point of having java portable?

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FOR ECLIPSE PORTABLE!!!

For applications like Eclipse Portable and OpenOffice Portable.

And the Java .jar Portable Launcher.

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What is the JAVA .jar

What is the JAVA .jar portable launcher?

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Not sure what its for
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Java Apps

Its for Java Apps like Data Crow or others.

Basically, a user asked John for a launcher so the CommonFiles Java can be used more easily and that's the result. I think its one of the things where if you don't know what it is for you are likely to have no use for it.

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some people probably have a

some people probably have a use for it but every now and then a website asks so i thought why not, adobe can be made portable why not Sun?

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Um....

The old string of replies was getting really squished up.

So, to answer the person above...

Adobe Flash was never made Portable, John just told us to put the .dll in the plugins folder, but this doesn't make it Portable.

The same workaround was pretty much applied for Sun's Java.

And John has contacted the Sun team about making Java Portable many times, twice to be exact. And the never replied. He needs permission to package it.

The installers just download the app while it's installing the launchers... does that answer you question?

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Well theres portable skype

Well theres portable skype now and heaps of commercial appz, so why doesn't someone just do it?

Didn't MS do it years ago?

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To Linux Mint?

what about linux mint xfce CE 7 on a persistent loop file (thing) flash drive install?

ps. me thinks theres a bug with the usb creator (that is in the linux one don't know about the windows one), so you have too read the manual and make the loop file thing your self, which ant that hard (3 commands).

Its the bit titled "Using a Loopback File" you want:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence?action=show&redirec...

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