So, what are the chances of a portable GimpShop version?
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Considering that GimpShop for Windows is pretty unstable, 3 versions behind, and immediately crashes when I simply try to draw on a blank image with the paintbrush tool... not very likely at the moment.
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I was planning to do it soon.
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R McCue
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Making it portable works just like GIMP... so no work needs to be done. I already did it, myself. But what I'm saying is that I won't be releasing it because it's a really unstable app and would result in a pretty poor end-user experience since it'll just crash for a whole lot of people.
That said, if anybody really wants to see it, I can upload it. But be warned, it's really unstable (GIMPShop itself, that is).
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GIMP in general is a pretty poorly-designed program, in my opinion. I tried GIMPshop, and it actually makes matters worse (and that's saying something).
I honestly don't get why people like GIMP so much. Instead of a tabbed interface or even regular MDI, it has a cruddy VB4-style interface. I'm the type of person that likes a Paint Shop Pro-style interface: one main window, dockable toolbars and palettes, and documents inside the main window.
I use Paint Shop Pro myself for the same reason. I like the interface.
I can understand the rationale behind GIMPShop, though. Start with GIMP... which is actually a very powerful program... it just has an unintuitive interface... and tries to improve that interface and make the menus more Photoshop-like.
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I think the basis of the appeal is obvious.
1. Free
2. Layers
3. Free
Isn't it:
3. Profit!
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The fact that a program is free means nothing to me if it's poorly-designed. I'll take an expensive, well-designed program over a mediocre free one any day. Of course, that might lead to the former not exactly being... err, legitimate... but that's neither here nor there.
Of course, don't take that to mean that I wouldn't choose a truly free program over a pirated one if the former came at least marginally close in usability to the latter. I'd rather use the free program and lose some features and/or usability than be on the wrong side of the law (case in point: I'm currently trying to migrate away from my pirated copy of Office in favor of OpenOffice.org). Unfortunately, GIMP just isn't enough to sway me over that line.
Thats nothing. One time our computer was filled with pirated stuff like Nero, Office etc and the copy of Windows was pirated. However, we ended up buying Windows. In fact, I think Nero is still pirat- I've said too much.
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R McCue
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Yeah, sounds like me. Half the apps on my system are pirated (not that I wouldn't buy them if they weren't so expensive...) because most of the open-source stuff out there just doesn't cut it for me. I do have a legal copy of Windows, but I don't use it anymore because of the activation DRM bullcrap. I'm not calling Microsoft every time I have to reinstall Windows (which is, like, every 6 months). Plus, I don't particularly like the fact that I can only install the damned thing on one machine. I pay that much for an operating system, I should get a license for 5 machines, not one.
But yeah, I better stop talking about pirated apps before I get in trouble...
*looks out of window and sees a black BMW pull up and a buch of armed lawyers jump out*
Arghhh *runs*
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Steve Lamerton
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You know Bruce, why don't you just backup the activation file and serial number on a seperate partition or hard drive? I've got 'em stored in a zip in my GMail account, because I tend to do a lot of...experiments; that means there are times when my computer would rather commit suicide than live with me any longer. No matter, though; I just resurect it with those two files.
I like having things work "right out of the box." I don't like having to hack around to get the stupid thing to work the way it was supposed to in the first place.
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Ah, ok. Unfortunately, I just cannot leave anything well enough alone. It's just too much fun.
XP is starting to "twitch" on me again, time to reinstall. This time I'm going to try out "SP3 Build 2"... ]:->
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R McCue
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lol!
If you HAVE to use Windows, there is no finer version than one of the TinyXPs available all over the torrent sites. Illegal as hell, but I don't see how any rational human could make me try to use my legitimate copy of windows when it is 1000x worse, the install takes forever, and then I just have to reinstall the whole thing within 6 months.
I don't know why TinyXP is so awesome, but it really and truly is. I'm using the Vista Edition which, all said and done I don't like as one of the last revisions (five or something?), but even this version completely dominates every other OS I have tried in the past, and in particular Windows XP pro vanilla, which I have on CD.
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You do realise this topic is very old and there's no point in resurrecting it, just for an off-topic post.
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"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Hi guys, I just wanted to weigh in so that you have all the info you need about Gimpshop source and hopefully making it a portable app.
I created the Gimp fork known as Gimpshop. The Gimpshop packages that are out there for Windows are admittedly unstable. I think this is the result of the way it was compiled and the MDI that was added by the guys that ported the source code. Otherwise, Gimpshop source is nearly identical to Gimp source in every way. The differences are solely cosmetic with regards to menu layout, window names and tool names. Gimpshop's ONLY changes to the GIMP source are changes to text strings (that and a different splash screen).
That said, Gimpshop is unfortunately not language-friendly. Gimpshop's menus are currently in American English no matter what language environment your computer uses. Basically, I replaced Gimp's hard-coded English language menus with Photoshop-style alternatives.
I'm going to update Gimpshop source to 2.2.13 within the next few days and will give you guys a heads-up when it's ready. I'll also take a stab at a Windows Installer and a portable version.
-Scott
Welcome, Scott. And thanks for joining us. GIMPShop works portably using the standard GIMP Portable launcher bits, so there's not much work to be done other than packaging it up. I'm not sure why it's so unstable, but the Windows releases crash as soon as I try to draw on both my XP systems and on my Win2K test box. Perhaps it is the MDI addon that's doing it, as GIMP itself is quite stable and works with no issues on these same boxes.
I actually thought GIMPShop on Windows had been abandoned, since nothing had been done on it in quite a while. Glad to see I was mistaken. I even tried to learn how to compile GIMP so I could take a stab at updating GIMPShop, but no dice. The instructions online were outdated and failed about 1/2 way through.
I'm in the process of updating GIMP Portable to 2.2.13 and introducing an updated launcher that should greatly speed startup times. I'm updating the plugins cache before starting GIMP so that it won't have to re-find all it's plugins.
If you're able to update to 2.2.13, I'll package up a version with a new-style launcher and a custom splash (for GIMPShop) and drop it in the forums as a test release. If it's stable enough, I'll do a general release of it (be forwarned, though, that this may increase support requests as it'll find its way into more users hands).
If there's anything I can do to assist, post a note in the forums or drop me an email.
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+1 vote for gimpshop portable please.
The Windows package of GIMPShop appears to have been abandoned. It's currently 5 releases behind GIMP. And it's *very* buggy. I can't even get it running on my systems. So, essentially, it ain't gonna happen right now.
Anybody want to try compiling a newer version of GIMPShop for Windows?
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I go about doing that then.
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Steve Lamerton
First step is to get your system to the point where you can compile GIMP. Then you'll need to modify that process to use the GIMPShop sources (they're only up to 2.2.11, GIMP is now at 2.2.13). There are no instructions for compiling GIMPShop on Windows.
As for making it portable, it can use the exact same GIMP Portable launcher, since, from a portability prospective, it's the same app.
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I might have a go tomorrow then, I report on how successful I am.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
that was a waste of time, the batch file that they supply doesn't even work.
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Steve Lamerton