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Toucan 3 Questions

Thank you Steve for Toucan Smile It's a great app that I use on a regular basis. I don't know of anything that performs all the same functions so Thanks Smile

I've come across a couple snags since upgrading and hope you can help me.

Upgrade = Jobs Not Working
I've found that since upgrading, all my jobs no longer work. That includes syncs, backups and scripts. I created a backup job in 3, checked the jobs.ini and saw that your using a different format for job creation so I understand why it's not working. However I think with this being the case there needs to be some sort of warning on the release and download page informing the user that their previous jobs will not work. A fresh install is required and jobs need to be recreated.

Alternatively, a utility to convert old jobs.ini's to the new format would be invaluable for those like myself with long job lists. I know that's a lot easier said than done but thought I'd throw it out there. Wink

Scripts, how do they now work?
With the introduction of the new script format I think their really needs to be some sort of explanation of how it works. This leads into my next query.

No help?
Not sure if this is by accident or by design but I noticed the Help tab is missing in Toucan 3. I opened the Toucan folder and found the help.html which I naturally thought was my ticket. Wrong. I dug further and found X:/PortableApps/Toucan3/App/Toucan/help/index.html which I realise is the manual. I believe this location will not occur to many users and recommend re-implementing the Help Tab. Also for the Script section specifically, this needs to be a bit more detailed explaining just how to add jobs to a script.

Splash
I may be wrong but it looks like Toucan 3 is using the older splash icon from 1.x or the early 2.x's. If this is deliberate, so be it. Personally I prefer the newer one as it looks nicer and is consistent with the application's icon.

Final word
I realise the most likely reason these issues are in the 3.0 final release are because I and other users didn't test the pre-release enough and report them before this final release. Forgive me Blum

Please don't think this feedback is empty criticism. I heart Toucan. Wink

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See Above

What horusofoz said.

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Ok

here we go then:

  1. They are supposed to be updated! Only scripts were supposed to be incompatible, which was why there was supposed to be a note on the release announcement! I have added it back now.
  2. Scripts should be fairly well explained in the help file, and so onto the next point
  3. It is linked to in help.html, the first link is the link to the new manual Blum The idea behind this is two-fold. When the next menu comes out it links to the help.html file and so it makes sense to link to the Toucan help file from there. Secondly a fair number of people said that they would prefer it to be separate so they could have both the help and Toucan up at once.
  4. Wasn't me Wink John seems to have nabbed the old icon from somewhere...
  5. Yeah, I think that is because the testing went on so long (which is entirely my fault, I have been caught up in end of year uni exams and such). In the end it was just easier to put out a release that I thought I was happy with to have a base to build on.

Thanks as always for the feedback!

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I installed T3 over a T2
  1. I installed T3 over a T2 backup and found that the jobs.ini is indeed updated (Good job by the way. Must have been fun rigging that ;)). However for backups and syncs I get these error messages. Here are my before and after jobs.ini's. Hopefully they help diagnose the issue. Please note I have posted them on Pastebin for 24 hours only.
  2. The Scripts explanation that I can see isn't much sorry. After my gaffe in not seeing the manual link I'm going to bet that I've missed something here as well. ATM I am looking at scripts.html. It explains that the new script engine uses Lua but doesn't give any example of how to call a job. I realise it's not your job to include a manual on Lua but an example or two of how to call jobs would be greatly appreciated.
  3. Major Face Palm Wink The separate help file makes a lot of sense if it can be accessed from the PA.com menu.
  4. Understood.
  5. Understood.

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Thanks
  1. I just fixed these Smile
  2. Ok, I'll add something else too, the command you are looking for is sync(jobname)
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Thanks

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Give me one reason to Update....................................

I use Toucan to Secure my files on a public PC,
and I use "Mirror" and "Update" to Sync my files to the flash drive.

I see v3 has issues with "Preview" and "Expand" and the help file is buried inside folders.

Give me 1 reason to upgrade..

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There are many bug fixes in version 3 over version 2.

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no problems

I'm havin no pro with v2,

my Q's for v3:

1. Do all the sync jobs work as intended? (update overW only missing and newer files)

2. Did u inc a link to d hlp file from int ? Because I dnt use plat.

3. Does v3 inc everT from v2?

Read my last P, I use sync and secure. Do these work as intended now? Do we still get the colors on the preview before a sync?

It's important for me that mirror and update work as they should.
And the preview is extremely imp.

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