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January 7, 2011 - 11:37am
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problem with backup/password

Hello everybode,

when i use the backup tool, type "complete", format "zip", compression "fastest", other "Password = yes", then it will work, but without Password in ZIP File!

Toucan ask for the password, and then the programm starts. After finish, i check out the zip file with the windows file folder zip tool, and it will show all files in the ZIP file, and i can extrakt all - without asking for the password.

WinZIP and WinRAR will do the same - not ask for the password.

So, toucan have not do any PW in the File (ZIP File). Why not?

What goes wrong?

Thank you.
Juergen
Germany

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January 7, 2011 - 11:43am
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Version

Which version of Toucan are you using? And which version of Windows?

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January 8, 2011 - 4:03pm
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many bugs...

Hello,

now, i use the newest Version 3.0.4 (and win XP) - and now exakt this problem does not apear.

Now the program copie the Passwort in the ZIP File, but i find several additional bugs.

1.) yes, the PW is now in the ZIP, but it is possible - with any other zip viewer - to look in the PW protected ZIP that is generatet with toucan. Without need to know the PW! I think, this is not "normal".

2.) When i use the backup tool, and make an "Complete....ZIP....Fastest...Password" Backup, i think, the program should make an new ZIP File. Or not? This is not so. If there is an ZIP file, there can any other content inside the ZIP - toucan does not clean this (old) Content! Why not? Complete is complete, or not? Complete should be an (compressed) copy of the selected files. Ort not?

3.) When i chance the language and klick on "apply", the Programm goes in "max. Window Size". Why???

At last, let me say, that i find, Toucan is an very fine Programm!! I have donate several time with paypal (ever over the portable apps buttons).

bey
Jurgen
Germany

PS: some additional questions: how can i contact the poeple of the portable apps Platform? And how that of the Programms?

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January 8, 2011 - 5:39pm
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Thanks

for your feedback

  1. Sadly this is normal for zip files, try using the 7zip format if you don't want this to happen
  2. I probably need to clarify this in the help file, you are correct that this doesn't make a lot of sense. Basically it is equivalent to the sync complete mode.
  3. It shouldn't do, I will look into this, thanks

You can contact the portable apps platform people here on the forum, just post a thread in the correct forum, otherwise try the Contact Us page. As for the author of the programs, check out their pages here, they all have inks to the original sites. And I am the author of Toucan Smile

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January 9, 2011 - 9:48am
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thank you...

Hello Steve,

it is very nice from you, to answer (so fast) my questions/feedback.

o.k. i think, it all is not an problem.

Let me write about some other thinks about toucan, that are noticed to me;

1.) when i backup and select "no compresion", in the protokoll window will write "compressed....". Unsettling.

2.) when i select "zip", in the protokoll window will write "7-Zip". Unsettling.

3.) when i backup large Data (severel folders, with many files), in about 3 GB and more, in about 500 Files and more, the progressbar is on the right side (100%) in about 50% of the time. The last 50% of the backup Time the progressbar will remain in that position. Unsettling.

Please do not misunderstand. This is just constructive criticism.

o.k. i think this is all about your fine program, that i can say to you. I will use it sometimes. Thanks.

But, perheps i can ask some other questions (I do not know, if this is the right place to ask it);

a.) i am a (hobby) programmer. I perheps want to put my next great programm (ready in about 3 months, it is an ERP with onlineshop-funktion, i use SQLite as DB) put on the portableapps site. But i have not find out the advantageous.

b.) What will it cost? Is it really a got way to marketing an software?

c.) How will the donations of portableapps buttons (there not at all programms an separately Button for the developer) be distributed?

d.) is it really possible, to earn money with this way? How much is realistic?

o.k. now, it is realy enough.

thank you, and big Greetings from Germany.

Jürgen

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January 9, 2011 - 10:16am
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The PortableApps format is an

The PortableApps format is an open format that provides a standard way for most programs to be portable. It has a consistent folder structure and stores settings consistently, which makes backing up of all settings (of all programs) in the PortableApps format easy. Note that a program may already be portable before it is made into a PortableApps package but then you don't have the benefits of consistency of the PortableApps platform. In addition, the latest beta of the PortableApps menu features a built-in updater that will automatically update any of the PortableApps programs you've installed when newer versions are available.

As a third party developer, there is no cost for you associated with putting your program in the PortableApps format. However, if you choose to do it yourself then there is a small time cost, depending on the complexity of how your program writes/stores settings (e.g. if it relies heavily on the Windows registry). The benefit is that you have the potential to reach many more users. The number of people that visit this site a day is significant (I think tens of thousands, possibly millions) and the number of users running certain PortableApps like Firefox Portable run in the millions I believe. So that is quite a significant audience.

Don't be confused, PortableApps usually doesn't (normally) develop programs "in-house". There are some exceptions like Toucan, where Steve is not only a developer of porgrams (Toucan) but also a member of the PortableApps development team. Zach Thibeau is another example. He develops several programs himself but is also a developer here. However, because the PortableApps platform is an open standard you are welcome to develop a PortableApps package for any of your programs. PortableApps prefers open source programs as this avoids any complicated licensing issues, however if your apps are Freeware they can still be listed here. You just need to ensure you give permission for PortableApps to distribute your software. If your apps are commercial and you'd like them listed here then you should contact John Haller, through the business development email address on the contact page.

I hope this answer some of your questions. I'm not a developer, just an enthusiastic supporter. Members of the development team such as Steve will be able to give you more detailed answers.

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January 15, 2011 - 4:24pm
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Thank you....

...for your very extensiv answer.

O.k. i need more time anyway, to programm my application to the "ready" (beta) status....

...it is very time-consuming, and i can only programm about 1 or 2 hours a day.

bey
Juergen
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January 8, 2011 - 7:18pm
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Zip Password Protection; Not Useful

I agree with Steve, I think being able to view a password protected zip is normal. The password is actually used when you try to extract the files from the archive. I agree that isn't really terribly useful. Aside from which, I think I'm right in saying that there are many programs out there designed to crack zip passwords, so overall it isn't a very effective way to secure your data. Maybe you could try encrypting the resultant zip file (with Toucan of course! Wink ). I've never tried this myself.

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January 15, 2011 - 4:26pm
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Thank you again...

...for this.

o.k. no problem.

Actually i use only the very fine "Sync" Function of toucan - and this will work very very fine.

Perfect! Toucan is one of some absolutely fine programs.

bey
Juergen

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