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Suggestion for the menu

I'd like there to be buttons in relation to the scrolled area of the menu that switch between programs, and "available" applications, that is the menu has a web component that resembles the front page news.

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Menu Suggestion

Why?

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Why?

Because I want the web portal integrated into the menu in some way.

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no

there will be somthing like the current updater with the ability to add and download new apps but I doubt anyone wants to integrate anything web-broser-related into the menu.

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the size of such menu...

which will have to include a browser will grow to extreme sizes. Once some browser will be included, next one wishes to have the flash and and 74 extra addons including all sorts of colorful-sounding-pictures-player just to be able to install adblock and see if it works...

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No

It was a suggestion to have the program area double as a list for apps that are available, as opposed to those already installed, hence buttons.

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Hi No

It was a suggestion to have the program area double as a list for apps that are available, as opposed to those already installed, hence buttons.

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Menu Suggestion

Sorry, but I can't see any logical argument for, or any value in, a list of 160+ (and growing) software items being constantly referenced in a tab/window on the Platform menu. This could well present more of an irritation than a benefit to the majority of users. As far as integration with the menu, I am aware that one "competitor" has recently provided a RSS type feed in it's menu to post new releases, however, it's already a very easy process to launch a web browser and view appropriate PortableApps pages with very little time lag and/or subscribe to the RSS feed for new updates/releases.

Also, given the many recent comments/messages about the upcoming Platform Beta release, I think it would now be sensible for us all to be patient and just wait and see what it offers.

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There is also Feed Notifier

There is also Feed Notifier Portable here, which can be used with this site's RSS feed to notify you of when new apps are out. Not part of the menu as such, but as far as I am concerned it is preferable, as you don't have to have it if you don't want it.

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That's right, but

The menu launches the default browser, IE, hardly appealing now is it?

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Default / FFP

The PortableApps.com Menu launches Firefox Portable, and if you don't have that installed (or perhaps if you have it in an nonstandard directory [standard is X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable]) it will launch the host computers Default browser (IE in your case).

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That's right

I don't have FF installed but since there is no way to set a default browser, ie no options other than backup and manage apps, it seems quite silly really not to use the apps that are provided for example to search and so on.

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Coming

Firefox is the standard portable browser and included with the suite, so the platform is keyed to it. Chrome was barely used and Opera, Portable Edition didn't exist yet at the time the last platform update came out so the platform checked for Firefox Portable first and then fell back to the system default browser, which made sense at the time. In the future, you'll be able to manually set it.

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which means

to display there half of the internet

there are many , many apps that can be put there

I remamber at begining of my internet experience, this was with compuserve on dos that time, we had a list of sites we could visit in the terminal menu...for few weeks.
this is similar, list of all not installed apps? might become infinite soon.

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Yes but

The updater surely could be made into a more simplified component that does not open another window and besides why not integrate it with the account at pa.com at the same time?

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The problem is, that every

The problem is, that every little thing you add to the menu slows the menu down.

If you made it so such a list would populate on platform start-up, people would complain that the menu takes too long to start. If you had it populate whenever it finished grabbing things, people would complain that it wasn't populated quickly enough.

There are also other issues to think about on the programmatic side of things. What would happen if there was no internet connection? What would be the process for updating the list if a new app was added while the platform was already running? What would happen if corrupt data was returned? How would the platform know the data was corrupt? What would stop developers making illegal portable apps from hijacking this feature and turning it into a tool for malware distribution?

As a web-designer, I know how much a little extra data can slow things down, and how a little corrupted data can destroy what would otherwise be a great thing. Having a list like this in the platform would be, for most people, far too large a hit on the menu's speed to be a viable option. Even now with the list of apps we have, I would not have such a feature running if possible, and the list of apps is only going to grow.

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Thanks for your understanding

The feature of course would only pertain to installed applications in the first instance.

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