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3.1 Issues and Notes
  1. The minus icon in rules includes/excludes does nothing. I mean the minus icon for specific includes/excludes, not for whole rules.

  2. Outdated documentation. For example, it seems the Rules section refers to the previous version. Should I prefix regex with * or is it not needed anymore now that you can just choose "regex"? Does "Simple" mode support wildcards or must you use regex instead?
  3. 3.1's Sync's quick Include/Exclude doesn't support folders. When I right click a folder, I can quickly include/exclude it, but only as a file. Obviously I can later manually turn the rule to a folder, but it should really do it automatically.
  4. In 3.1, does File/Folder Include require an additional exclude? Should one not bother to use File/Folder Include unless they also use File/Folder Exclude of Simple with *?
  5. 3.1 keeps loading my CD drive. 3.0.4 took a second to load, while 3.1 takes a while to load. When it finally loads, my CD drive starts making lots of noise. I don't have any setting in Toucan regarding my CD drive, so it shouldn't happen.
  6. In 3.1, does Exclude Folder of * cover parent files as well? It obviously covers files in sub-folders, but what about files in the parent folder? Should I add File Exclude * as well?
  7. After upgrading, I see the installer left obsolete files such as rules.ini/old and probably lots of other files and maybe folders.
  8. Sync's Preview button ignores filters. This somewhat cripples the functionality of preview.
  9. Sync can't remove folders! The log says "removed" but the folder is right there.
  10. Saved Sync logs contain lots of empty lines.
  11. Please provide a way to filter logs (e.g. not show and/or save skipped files).
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Highlight

If your cursor is in a single box, it won't work. If you click and drag across the cells to highlight more than one, it will work.

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Thanks!

Hope it'll be made easier in the future.

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Single Post, Development on Hiatus

I combined your issues into a single post. There's no need for 5 separate posts. As development of Toucan is on hiatus, these may or may not be addressed.

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Yes, documentation out of date

I'm afraid it is out of date, I do have some updates I think, I just failed to include them. To answer your questions:

  1. You don't need to prefix a regex with an * any more
  2. Simple mode does support wildcards, both * and ?

Hope that helps!

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It does help

Thanks!

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As

mentioned by John I am not developing Toucan further but I will try and answer yours questions Smile

  1. I think John already solved this one
  2. I already answered this one
  3. Seems to work for me, they show up as folder includes and excludes
  4. Yes, there is no point in doing an include unless something high up the directory tree is excluded
  5. No idea why this should happen
  6. Yes, everything will be excluded with a single folder exclude *
  7. I can't image this is as bad as you are suggestion, there are
  8. This also seems to work fine for me
  9. As previous
  10. Logs from where and after which operation?
  11. Agreed, this does need changing

Hope that helps Smile

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3+5+8+9 - what can I say?

3+5+8+9 - what can I say? Those points, especially 8-9, do happen to me and trouble me in doing so.

7. You're right. It's just a matter of principle.

10. Sync logs (I've edited the OP to reflect that).

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Clean install fixed just 5 & 8

3 still happens.

As for 9, it doesn't copy the files of excluded folders, but does create those folders as empty folders if they don't already exist.

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Excellent,

I am glad they are working now for you. If there is a folder that you definitely don't want any subfiles/folders in then an Absolute Folder Exclude might help, it should be quicker and definitely won't result in files left over.

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Please explain Absolute Folder Exclude

What should I write there and how does it differ from Folder Exclude?

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difference is that if Toucan reaches an Absolute Folder Excluded then it won't bother looking in any of the subfiles or subdirectories. If it is a normal Folder Exclude however it will still look inside the directory for files or folders that have been Included.

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Multiple folders in one backup archive

In the 3.1 version it is impossible to add multiple folders to one backup archive - it saves and compresses only the top one (with subfolders of course) and skips any further folder - below the sample what i see in log:

[filelist of first folder]
Everything is Ok
7-Zip Angel 9.20 Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-11-18
10:55:28 Error:
cannot find archive
Creating file list, this may take some time.
10:55:28 Error:
7-Zip Angel 9.20 Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-11-18
cannot find archive
Elapsed: 00:00:25

It worked perfectly in the previous version

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Double backup

A small correction - I've looked inside the log file - it seems that it does the same thing twice - my backup task has two folders, Toucan creates a list of files for the first folder and performs its job, then instead of creating a second list it repeats the task for the first one.

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Clean Install

As one other quick test, please try a clean install of Toucan rather than an upgrade. This may or may not help with some issues.

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Re: Clean install

Hi,
I have installed Toucan in separate directory and made two tests:
- first with copied jobs.ini file from previous version
- second completely new - with two folders jobs created from the scratch.
In both cases the result is the same. It backs up the first folder only. Which is somehow good news - one doesn't have to redo configs from the scratch, at least in my case Smile

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Thanks

for reporting this, I just tested and there is definitely something not quite right with backing up multiple folders, when I tested it backup up the first folder twice and the second not at all.

*EDIT* I just read your comment above and I see you saw the same thing too.

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As for my issues
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Strange happenings

Hi,
There is strange things happening with the latest version.

I use the sync function and its become very slow.

When I watch the progress window, nothing happens for ages, then short bursts of activity. BUT if I move my mouse around over the progress window or click on it, on the scrolling area or the border, the scrolling display ramps up to flat-out, as long as I keep mouse motion.
At first I thought this was a fluke but it consistently made the scrolling window go fast!

Also, I cant minimise the parent window any more, it stays on screen with the progress window over it.

I have gone back to 3.0.4 which seems to work just fine for me.

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Toucan crash exit on Nvidia GT555M

I've noticed that Toucan 3.1.0 crashes every time on exit with the following error:

Faulting application name: toucan.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x50f2d17b
Faulting module name: nvinit.dll_unloaded, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x50de924b
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x737dce59
Faulting process id: 0xe00

I'm using a Dell L702X with 3GB GT555M. NVIDIA driver version 310.90 Windows 7 64bit. Laptop has Optimus and running Toucan with the Intel HD3000 IGP I've seen no crash.

Update: This could be an Optimus issue. Configuring Optimus to use the Integrated Graphics does not resolve the issue. The only resolution is to right click Toucan and select your GPU. Selecting either NVIDIA or Integrated graphics works.

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Toucan 3.1 hangs in Mirror mode with a large directory tree

Solved: I did a regression back to the previous version toucan 3.0.4, and it works as expected.

The problem with version 3.1: it hangs when mirroring (copying+deleting) between large directories (+1500 folders, +40000 files, of a zotero bibliography set), directory sets that previously were mirrored without problems. It hangs after copying the parent and smaller folders and trying to read/copy the largest tree. I tested it with my primary USB pendrive and my secondary copy USB 3.0 harddrive (much faster).

It works fine with several smaller directories sets in mirror mode.

Happens in a fast system: HP Z600 workstation, WinXP'64, intel i7-2600, 4GB ram. The pendrive was checked between attempts: chkdsk m: /F

I didn't do further testing. I upgraded ('downgraded') to 3.0.4 from sourceforge. Now, all works fine with 3.0.4 (or with grsync in Linux).

Here is a quick link to the previous version (Just install it like a new version):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Toucan/Toucan%203.0.4...

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Confirmed.

I know development on Toucan has halted but I thought it was worth confirming this issue, perhaps in the event that a new maintainer/developer is found.

I don't have the precise stats but when mirroring a large (10GB+) directory to a network drive mapped to a drive letter, Toucan begins and then at some point just seems to spin its wheels. I would assume it's still doing something productive only there are no signs of activity on my network drive and CPU usage is pegged at around 50%.

As with user Slackjp, downgrading to 3.0.4 permits the mirror to finish normally. I'm using Windows 7, with 8GBs RAM.

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It fails when there's no free space at the target

Instead of simply explaining the target drive has no more free space, it writes "failure" and sometimes even pops up a LUA crash message.

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