Meh, 'tis portable enuff 4 *me*....
(btw, taugenix, ya forgot the linky:
http://opera-usb.com/
...interestingly, the author also refers to it on his page as "mobile", which would be more in keeping with pa.com's nomenclature...)
And for those of you sticklers who don't find it portable *enuff*, try Kejut's version here, which runs out of a single EXE file, and comes in both a version that can be run off a USB key AND a version that can be run off a burned CD:
Now of course their standards could be different from ours, but my thought is that unless we have reasons to not trust them we should assume they are correct till we prove otherwise. "It leaves a heap of stuff behind" implies "something" is known. Might I ask where your getting "heap" from.
"Leaving stuff behind" aside, what do folks think of it as a browser in general, functionally and from a security perspective?
Tim
Things have got to get better, they can't get worse, or can they?
I think I've seen a conversation either on these forums or somewhere else about how it leaves things in the user directory or something.
My memory is fuzzy
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Ballroom Blitz - The Misfits
Manic Monday - Cyndi Lauper
I Don't Like Mondays - The Boomtown Rats
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Douglas McFadzean: Whilst Opera can indeed be made portable, I feel that maybe it should come with a "health warning". The problem is that Opera always caches files to a read/write disk, even if you set the disk cache to zero. To save flash drive I/O, OperaUSB directs the Opera cache to a temporary folder in the user profile folder. It also enables an Opera setting that tells it to automatically delete the cache files on exiting. However, if Opera crashes, someone using a simple undeleting utility like Restoration could uncover your cache files and the privacy of your browsing trail is severely compromised. This is unlike portable K-Meleon or Firefox which (if you zero the disk cache) will never write files to the hard drive. I think your readers need to know about this in case they are lulled into a false sense of security by the writeup "OperaUSB ... does not write to the registry nor leave any data on the guest machine where it is run." True on one level, but not if it crashes. [2006-07-05 00:37]
Actually, Opera IS free for us individual users; just not free for *corporate* use
Anyhoo, the poster decided to post it on "request apps" board; perhaps he didn't know it wasn't OSS.
I DO know that, 'cuz I been using Opera for about 8-9 years, but my reply needs must be put where the post was written.
(Perhaps John might wanna transfer this thread to the "other apps" board?...)
Open-source or not, Opera is the best browser available, for my money.
And I mean that LITERALLY, because Opera is one of the few (formerly) shareware apps that I've ever decided to pay $$$ for to be able to keep using it. And if you knew what a cheapskate I am, you'd be suitably impressed at that fact.
Long live Opera!...
Verily, the fat lady DOTH sing!!!...
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
I think it is a matter of opinion to call it the best browser. I myself don't really find anything worth enough on it to actually use a propietary tool over open source software alternatives that are as good or even way better than Opera in much ways.
But when I first started using Opera, the only "free" competition was IE - which was was no competition at all, and Opera had already bested Netscape, thus leaving Opera as "King of the Hill"
(The tragedy here is that we'll never really be able to get a fair idea of *how* the browsers would do against one another on a level playing field, for IE - lame as it is - has had the corner on that market ever since M$ began bundling it w/ Windows.
Thus, the 'browser wars' were won merely by virtue of Micro$haft being the 800 lb. gorilla, rather than by virtue of actually being a decent browser.
Pity, that...)
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
I prefer Kejut, but only because I'd rather deal with a single EXE file than a bunch of files in a directory.
Oh, also, for some reason on my system the Sys Tray would periodically throw up a warning balloon that one of the files on OperaUSB was corrupted. Odddly enuff, the app continued to work just fine, usually, but what a pain in the butt to hafta deal w/ that stupid balloon every time I turn around.
This round goes to Kejut's Opera...
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
I have this one, and looked at it once I fired it up - there don't seem to be any menu items/etc. that refer to its Tor functionality. So, I haven't yet really used it.
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
Opera@USB is not completely portable.
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Current Fav. Songs:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Meh, 'tis portable enuff 4 *me*....
(btw, taugenix, ya forgot the linky:
http://opera-usb.com/
...interestingly, the author also refers to it on his page as "mobile", which would be more in keeping with pa.com's nomenclature...)
And for those of you sticklers who don't find it portable *enuff*, try Kejut's version here, which runs out of a single EXE file, and comes in both a version that can be run off a USB key AND a version that can be run off a burned CD:
http://www.kejut.com/operaportable
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
Ryan,
Back to the subject.
How is OperaUSB "not completely portable"?
Are you saying it is leaving things behind [not counting MRUs, prefetch, and the like]
Also what do others think about Opera in general, is it a good program. Is it/can it be as "relatively" as FF.
Thanks in advance
Tim
Geek w/o portfolio
Things have got to get better, they can't get worse, or can they?
It leaves a heap of stuff behind.
Dunno though.
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Ryan McCue
Current Fav. Songs:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
"It says it doesn't",
Now of course their standards could be different from ours, but my thought is that unless we have reasons to not trust them we should assume they are correct till we prove otherwise. "It leaves a heap of stuff behind" implies "something" is known. Might I ask where your getting "heap" from.
"Leaving stuff behind" aside, what do folks think of it as a browser in general, functionally and from a security perspective?
Tim
Things have got to get better, they can't get worse, or can they?
I think I've seen a conversation either on these forums or somewhere else about how it leaves things in the user directory or something.
My memory is fuzzy
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Ryan McCue
Current Fav. Songs:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
That's Okay,
It was a large part of your life ago,
1/13th to be precise
Tim
Geek w/o portfolio
Things have got to get better, they can't get worse, or can they?
Quote from www.PortableFreewware.com
Douglas McFadzean: Whilst Opera can indeed be made portable, I feel that maybe it should come with a "health warning". The problem is that Opera always caches files to a read/write disk, even if you set the disk cache to zero. To save flash drive I/O, OperaUSB directs the Opera cache to a temporary folder in the user profile folder. It also enables an Opera setting that tells it to automatically delete the cache files on exiting. However, if Opera crashes, someone using a simple undeleting utility like Restoration could uncover your cache files and the privacy of your browsing trail is severely compromised. This is unlike portable K-Meleon or Firefox which (if you zero the disk cache) will never write files to the hard drive. I think your readers need to know about this in case they are lulled into a false sense of security by the writeup "OperaUSB ... does not write to the registry nor leave any data on the guest machine where it is run." True on one level, but not if it crashes. [2006-07-05 00:37]
Douglas McFadzean is the creator of Pocket K-Meleon at www.mc-fadzean.fsnet.co.uk/computing/kmeleon.html.
If this is the only reason disable that Opera@USB write the Cache to Harddisk
What the heck? Opera is not even free software (Did you know companies have to pay for it?) much worse it is not open source...
Actually, Opera IS free for us individual users; just not free for *corporate* use
Anyhoo, the poster decided to post it on "request apps" board; perhaps he didn't know it wasn't OSS.
I DO know that, 'cuz I been using Opera for about 8-9 years, but my reply needs must be put where the post was written.
(Perhaps John might wanna transfer this thread to the "other apps" board?...)
Open-source or not, Opera is the best browser available, for my money.
And I mean that LITERALLY, because Opera is one of the few (formerly) shareware apps that I've ever decided to pay $$$ for to be able to keep using it. And if you knew what a cheapskate I am, you'd be suitably impressed at that fact.
Long live Opera!...
Verily, the fat lady DOTH sing!!!...
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
I think it is a matter of opinion to call it the best browser. I myself don't really find anything worth enough on it to actually use a propietary tool over open source software alternatives that are as good or even way better than Opera in much ways.
True, dat - it is a matter of opinion, indeed.
But when I first started using Opera, the only "free" competition was IE - which was was no competition at all, and Opera had already bested Netscape, thus leaving Opera as "King of the Hill"
(The tragedy here is that we'll never really be able to get a fair idea of *how* the browsers would do against one another on a level playing field, for IE - lame as it is - has had the corner on that market ever since M$ began bundling it w/ Windows.
Thus, the 'browser wars' were won merely by virtue of Micro$haft being the 800 lb. gorilla, rather than by virtue of actually being a decent browser.
Pity, that...)
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
Can we all please just use the proper name, otherwise I'll go crazy!
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Ryan McCue
Current Fav. Songs:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
I thought that *was* its proper name (...just not its "legal" name...)
B)
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
Nice.
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Ryan McCue
Current Fav. Songs:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Jus' givin' it to ya straight, bruh...
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
this portable opera is mush better than the one called Opera@usb
it leaves nothing behind and does not write on the key while using
may consider hosting it here
I've used both of 'em.
I prefer Kejut, but only because I'd rather deal with a single EXE file than a bunch of files in a directory.
Oh, also, for some reason on my system the Sys Tray would periodically throw up a warning balloon that one of the files on OperaUSB was corrupted. Odddly enuff, the app continued to work just fine, usually, but what a pain in the butt to hafta deal w/ that stupid balloon every time I turn around.
This round goes to Kejut's Opera...
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
If it should be a portable Opera try this one with Tor included (somewhat like Torpark)
http://letwist.net/operator
Edit: Since the above mentioned homepage may have trouble sometimes you can also have a look here: http://renephoenix.de/index.php?bid=1511
have the TOR functions enabled automatically?...
I have this one, and looked at it once I fired it up - there don't seem to be any menu items/etc. that refer to its Tor functionality. So, I haven't yet really used it.
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
OperaTor has NO accreditation from Opera ASA Norway to offer a changed Version of Opera !