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Huge Software Suite

8) Check it out: Huge software suite of over (purportedly, didna bother to count Blum ) one hundred apps. Thing is though: 'bout 25% of the apps are in Italian, though I suppose you could hunt down language packs from the homepages of each app respectively. Another downside: Although the hybrid Pstart-like/Win98 Start Menu-clone is actually pretty nice, if a tad lacking in the looks department, it's all a mishmash of English and Italian. And, you can only get it from Download.com at the moment; the homepage website does not seem to have a download. Pardon

I'm posting my search instead of individual links so you can choose which suite you want, though personally, i went for Gold 8) Biggrin

http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=PenSuite&tg=dl-20&search.x=2...

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This suite suck, many

This suite suck, many software are not english, and many are not portable. Indeed, for example star downloader was rejected ( By rea l portable software site) because it make extensive usage of registry.

345 portable applications:
http://standalone.atspace.org/index.html

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Indeed. You are entitled to

Indeed. You are entitled to your opinion. I myself found quite a few useful programs in this suite. I DID warn you about the language problem, right? And as for portability, the same could be said of quite a few apps. If you do not want to use it, thats just fine, I was just letting those who MIGHT know that it was there. Though if you really wanted to you could make them work for you. I myself, in the cases where I do find registry entries, even minor ones as in the case of PFF, export it, make an uninstall, and apply it before I log off of the host machine. I don't find it really bothersome, to be honest, and it is an effective if not quite sophisticated way of ensuring that you leave no traces.

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Many applications in your

Many applications in your suite depend on windows xp, and/or dll. And you admit deleting reg entries, How can you set options in thoses software if they use registry. I dont think you get the point of portable applications. To have a good definiont check my friends site for criteria

portablefreeware.com

345 portable applications:
http://standalone.atspace.org/index.html

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By Definition you are correct..

While I am not taking any side on this, I do have some apps that I use protably by adding the reg entries and then removing them on shutdown of the prog through batch files. So I think portability can be decided by the user. While I long for true portable apps, I will not pass up a good app, just because it writes registry entries. If they can be made portable through scripts of batch files then I consider them protable.

My opinion, it works for me.

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Good, but with this

Good, but with this definition I can use flashget portable, and about 80 % of software too. Smile Just use a reg backbup autorestored with a batch file...

Portable application have to write setting to their folder in a .ini or xml.

345 portable applications:
http://standalone.atspace.org/index.html

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I agree, Applications that

I agree, Applications that are portable need to write their settings to the ini or xml file in the app directory. I will only 'Make' one portable through batch if I like them and want to use them. But that is just me.

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Would it be possible to get

Would it be possible to get a smaple of your batch? Right now I'm doing it manual, since I don't have a lot of experiance with it at this point. I would be really, really, grateful. Biggrin Thanks Deuce.

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//

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REGEDIT /S options.reg
start application.exe
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wheres options.reg is all the registry key use, you can make hundred of 'portable application'. Sorry for using the word suck ASh.

345 portable applications:
http://standalone.atspace.org/index.html

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No worries, Albator. Your

No worries, Albator. Smile Your comments really are appreiciated. [ironic joke] I was just looking over some earlier posts elseware, and I practically stole the words right from you! lol [/ironic joke] Now: is what you just posted a command parameter? Could I use it in say, PStart?

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What I posted below and what

What I posted below and what albator posted would need to run from a batch file and they would be run as command prompt commands. you can use PStart to use the batch file as the files to run for the program. So when you click the shortcut the batch file runs and the programs starts using those commands.

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Awesome. Thank you very

Awesome. Thank you very much!

Edit: Last thing: Does CMDOW have to be in a particular directory? And what exactly is HID? Do I somehow need to adjust this? And does there need to be complete paths to the executables?

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CMDow does not needs to be

CMDow does not needs to be in any specific dorectory, you can leave in the same directory with the .bat file and then just use: cmdow @ /HID for the command to run, or you can put it in another directory and then use relative paths such as: ..\..\files\cmdow @ /HID to make it work from there. No absolute paths needed, but they can be used as well. Batch files work with you to fit into you overall directory scheme by using relative paths.

This allows you to makle a base bat file and change only the program exe name, as the cmdow.exe file never changes location and you only need one of them, saving space. Smile

The /HID is a switch to the cmdow, that hides the command prompt window from the gui. The comdow.exe prog will take care of everything as long as /HID is after the @.

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Albator is correct, Mine

Albator is correct, Mine actually states:

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@echo Off
cmdow @ /HID

regedit /S add.reg
start program.exe /wait
regedit /S remove.reg
exit
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This allows me to add the registry entries run the program and when the program ends delete the registry entries.

I first run the prog on a clean machine and set it up the way I want (options, opening window size, etc.) then I export the registry entries to a .reg file called add.reg. Then using that file I create a .reg file that deletes the keys called remove.reg. Using the batch file I can install the options, the program then starts, and when finished deletes the tracks.

I use CMDOW.exe to hide the command prompt window during all this. You see it for a second but then it disappears, and when the program closes and the last .reg is run the cmd window close without you seeing it.

It works for me to create any app I like to use as portable.

Deuce
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Lol, I see I was just a

Lol, I see I was just a little late; but thank you for the info. Just a couple of questions though: the code you posted is a batch, right? (Still learning) And how exactly do you use CMDOW? I had it for the longest time, but didna know how to use it. Bieng a bit of a file pack rat, I couldn't bring myself to get rid of it Blum , lol. And how would you get something to start minimized in PStart? (Sorry, this is still somewhat new to me concerning the really technical areas.)

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1. The commands above would

1. The commands above would need to be placed in a batch, yes. Something like start.bat, that is what I call it.

2. Within the program directory (Where the program exe is) place the batch file, the two reg files and cmdow.exe. The batch file will find and run these files and the program excutables on running the batch file.

3. PStart does not minimize the command window, CMDow does that with the /HID switch. I tells the current command prompt windows to hide itself from the GUI. It is still running, just not able to be seen. There are other switches that can be used with the CMDOW prog here: CMDOW Website

4. When you create a shortcut to a program in PStart, the program usually automatically asks for .exe files, but when you are browsing for the file, use the drop down box to select all files. This allows you to see the batch file in the program directory and choose it as the file to run.

This shortcut will then run the batch file that you create to start the program. I also use the icon section on the second tab and point it to the program exe, so the icon is the same as the original programs.

5. You can also place the cmdow.exe file somewhere else on the usb drive (Mine is in a system files directory) by using relative paths. Mine uses: ..\..\..\system_files\cmdow.exe as the run command for cmdow. It basically tells it to go back three levels and then go into the system_files directory and run cmdow. This allows me to only have one copy on cmdow.exe on the disk. Same thing can be done with the add/remove.reg files. But since those are usually specific to the program I just leave them with the start.bat file.

It doesn't matter how you run the file, just as long as the batch can see it.

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Just a small point...

Now a days, there are not many programs that work for OS's older than XP. While I do lament that fact, fact it is. *tear!* It is just as well that most of the people I help with compy problems have modern OS's. While I do appreciate programs with older compatibility, they just happen to be a dwindling breed, that's all. Smile Though if anyone does post such a gem, I am appropriiately grateful. Smile

Another point: I do appreciate feedback, and I do hope you'll forgive me for being a little testy. I just thought your reaction was just a bit strong. You do have a nice site, BTW, and I have downloaded a few things of f of it.

As to criteria on being portable: having perfect programs 100% of the time is just not feasable. Sad If people think that adjusting a program is just too much work, then by all means, I encourage them to be (justifiably Blum ) lazy. For instance, little experiace in tweaking programs. Or, little experiance in cleaning up any traces. But on the other hand, you just never know when something may come in quite handy. *OT Wandering thought...*: mabey we should start a stats topic in the main section, where people could post bechmarks for flash hardware, software specs etc...any thoughts guys? Anyway.../soapbox, lol.

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I recently install the suite

I recently install the suite from theinfobox. It has the same Pstart menu system is very well laid out and has some very good apps in it.

84 apps, Check out the list

http://www.theinfobox.com/index.php/Portable_USB_Apps

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I've seen that, and I

I've seen that, and I concur: Very nice suite. And best of all, it's all in English! Blum lol

I generally grab any suite or list or list I find, and then just pick and choose what I need from them, while keeping an archive of what I've acquired. Smile

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Thanks Ashes!

I disagree that the suite Ashes mentioned 'Sucks'. Although some (or maybe many) of the apps may not be portable and some are not in English, I would welcome anyone who wants to submit possible portable apps to this community so that we can decide for ourselves if we want to use it or not. Thanks Ashes for letting me peek into this huge suite.

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NO subsmission in thi suite,

NO subsmission in thi suite, all sofware where know (except the one in italians)But most where rejected by portablefreeware webmaster and the rest of the commuautnity because they were not portable or had dependency. It strange that on a portables applications website some peoples dont know what is portable applications Smile

345 portable applications:
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I'm not debating whether or

I'm not debating whether or not this suite was truly portable or not. I have apps that are truly portable, and I have other apps that cannot be considered portable. I would assume that others in this community also have the a similar mix of applications on their external drives. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from submitting ideas/applications to this community as it's up to me to decide whether or not I think they are useful or not. If I don't like it, then I just won't use it. Making bold statements like 'this suite Sucks' does nothing for this wonderful forum John has created!

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k, sorry for using the s

k, sorry for using the s words.

345 portable applications:
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Sorry for the delay.

Thanks and no worries Albator. Your comments about what's portable and not are useful.

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