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May 10, 2007 - 4:35pm
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Aciago
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My "DreamTeam" App StartUp.-

I had an idea and I'm sure somebody thought on this before... But I just don't find a related post...

Suppose that you introduce your portable drive, M$Windows read the entire file system and then shows a window with options: Start YourApp (in my case "Run AciagoMovil"), play music, play video, open folder, do nothing, blablabla...

Well, what if when you select an option, _any option_, a message jumps saying "this portable drive belongs to, blablabla" (Lost.exe?), but with a little text field where you type a password (Toucan?)... if you type the wrong password the drive just ejects... REMEMBER: any option that you select makes the message appear... if you just open "my pc" or explorer or whatever and try to open or explore the drive, the message appears again...

And, if you type the right password, then launch PAM and Convey and any other App you like (applauncher.exe?)

But, when you close PAM it also closes all the applications you opened before and eject the drive.

Is that possible?

This is my ideal Portable StartUp, including more than 3 apps in applauncher, convey, Lost, and AppLauncher integrated with PAM, folders-classify of Apps in PAM and customization of right pane in PAM (to include Toucan there as BackUp-Encrypt)...

What do you think? is it possible?

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May 10, 2007 - 4:45pm
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Nope, afraid not...

Those are built-in Windows settings. You can add your own custom action, which would appear first in the list, using autorun.ini--but when you "Open in Windows Explorer," Windows opens EXPLORER.EXE, and nothing goes through your flash drive.

U3 gets around this problem by faking a CD-ROM drive--Windows always AutoRuns CDs--but you need special hardware for that.

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May 10, 2007 - 7:28pm
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it might be possible with

it might be possible with autoit or autohotkey if somebody could write a script that watches for an option to be selected, or for the "OK" button to be clicked and then brings up the password box. I don't know enough about either of those languages though

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May 11, 2007 - 12:41pm
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But the program would have to be run first...

... and it can't autorun unless you click the button. Smile

Catch-22™!

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May 11, 2007 - 12:46pm
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The only way to do it would

The only way to do it would be with a U3 drive.
Either using U3 software, or other software and "customizing" the U3 drive.

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May 11, 2007 - 1:03pm
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And even then...

... you could still somehow get to the drive.

Software drive-protection is generally useless. Encryption might work, but is a royal pain in the butt if you use it regularly.

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May 11, 2007 - 1:28pm
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well,

What I originally want is to make the access to the drive as difficult as possible, since average people don't know to much about how to break some basic protection, when the options windows appear they just press enter... may be not hacker proof but, hey! how common is that if you forget your drive at office one day a hacker will find it and uses the info inside? at least not here... I work in a Zoo, not in a Computer Lab... Wink

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May 11, 2007 - 6:49pm
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Just get a drive with Password Protection built in (I believe that the Lexar JumpDrive can do it. I've got one sitting in front of me (courtesy of John) but haven't had the chance to open it yet).
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May 11, 2007 - 1:31pm
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Encryption would work, but

Encryption would work, but would require admin privileges.
scenario:
Modify U3 CD partion to include applauncher.exe and encryptionapp.exe (fictional app names)
applauncher.exe finds the U3 flash partion and passes it to encryptionapp.exe
encryptionapp.exe prompts for password then decrypts the flash partition.
applauncher or encryptionapp then launches PAM or other menu app from decrypted partition.

Someone just needs to make a good encryption program that doesn't require admin privileges. There a a couple out there, but they only do individual files. If it can be done with individual files it can be done with a partition or volume.

And if it was done right could actually make "portable" use easier.

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May 11, 2007 - 1:59pm
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Why?

Each time somebody talks about partitions produce sparks in my brain... Blum

Why not just appencripter-lost-launcher (AELL) ask for password to open a folder and absolutely everything is inside that folder, so PAM and everything else starts from there...???

something like:
-aell
-drivefolder
-PAM
-otherapps
-docs

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May 11, 2007 - 2:05pm
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I believe the reason it

I believe the reason it hasn't been done yet is that to do it without drivers(read admin privileges) would require decrypting every file to a folder somewhere.
This could possibly take a very long time for larger drives and would require an equal amount of free space for the file to be decrypted to.
I believe I may have a solution and am going to be talking to a "friend" about it on Monday.

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May 14, 2007 - 1:46pm
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Closer to the initial Idea.-

I didn't want to edit the original post to keep the historical registry accurate but I have a new way to explain my ideas...

With the recent addition of a launcher to the "ok" bottom in lost.exe (thanks again Ryan), and the discovery of new Apps, my idea is as follows...

When you introduce your drive autorun.inf calls Lost.exe, when you press "ok" it launches a program like lockngo asking for a password, if that password is correct it releases the folders and launch appslauncher.exe

The bad thing with lockngo is a) no open source and no freeware, b) locks the entire drive... I need to lock only two folders 1. PortableApps, and 2. Documents, that way autorun.inf, lost.exe and lost.ini are not locked.

Then, the PApp that I still miss is a "portable/open source/freeware/folder locker" that locks folders, and when unlock (typing a password) it launches another App automatically... can that be done?

Is there any open source/freeware equivalent to lockngo?

And the last... Is there any way (maybe with a convey's plugin) that automatically closes any running PApp when exit PAM or convey???

Thanks in advance.

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I don't have a signature
Should I have a signature?

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
and the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
then the socket packet pocket has an error to report Biggrin

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