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podman
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Formatting a USB device

Hi, I'm new here, and have what is probably a very daft question, but please bear with me. I've just bought my first USB device and am looking forward to filling it with portable apps. So, on to the question:

I have an Integral Ice 2GB USB flash drive, which has password protection on it, which is accessed by a file called USB Disk Pro v2.7 (UDPv270.exe). This allows you to set a password and format the drive into a protected and unprotected partition (appearing as two drive letters on XP). Both are formatted FAT. My question is in two parts:

1) If I wanted to get rid of the two partitions and just have one large unprotected partition, formatted FAT32, how would I do this?

2) If I wanted to keep the password protection but format the device FAT32, how do I go about this? Do I convert both partitions? Or format it as one device like above and copy on UDPv270.exe and run it to create the protected partition.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received.

I look forward to being part of this community!

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Well...

Let me say to you Hello!!! and Welcome to this community. Now about the questions:

1) In Window$, without 3rd party tools: I don't know (that's because Window$ can only format each partition, maybe someone else in the forum can help you); but, if you download a Linux live CD (for example: Knoppix) you could boot from the CD and use the partition editor on it for formatting your USB drive into FAT32.

2) I've no idea. That's up to the software that came with your pen drive. On that I can't help you. Read the manual that came with your pen drive (it must have a manual, if not you should complain to the vendor). You can also give up on the software protection on your pen and use TrueCrypt (or any other encrypting tools), but on that I can't help you too.

Hope to have helped.
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1)Use this program :

1)Use this program : http://downloads.pcworld.com/pub/new/utilities/peripherals/SP27608.exe
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hmmmmm

@podman

Are you sure you have two FAT partitions on that stick? I ask because Windows XP can't address more than a single partition on a USB device but you say that you see two drive letters for it.

Some newer USB sticks have two partitions, that Win XP can see, but one of them is a CDFS partition.

@Keviin

And what exactly does the SP27608 file that your link downloads do?

@ptmd

1) ... I don't know ...

2) I've no idea. ... On that I can't help you. ...

... but on that I can't help you too.

Hope to have helped.

Not so much. [LOL]

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@Ed P If I insert the stick,

@Ed P

If I insert the stick, I get two new drive letters appear (in my case K: and L:, the next two free drive letters). K: is the area that can be password protected and L: contains the UDPv270.exe file for setting the password, unlocking the protected area and 're-formatting' the stick (the 're-formatting' option allows you to adjust the ratio of unprotected/protected storage space, but it does wipe what ever is there).

In Windows Explorer, if I right-click K: and select Properties, it tells me the type is 'Removable Disk' and the file system is 'FAT', capacity 1.91 GB. If I right-click L: and select Properties, it tells me the type is 'Removable Disk' and the file system is 'FAT', capacity 1.45 MB. So yes, they would both appear to be FAT and both accessible from XP at the same time.

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Integral Ice USB flash drive

That throws all my current understanding into the Trash.

It was: (i) that some USB devices (eg most mobile drives) show up in Explorer as Local Disk and can comprise up to 4 separate partitions; each partition can be formatted independently and will show up in Explorer as a separate Local Disk; (ii) that other USB devices (specifically, memory sticks) show up in Explorer as Removable Disk. They too can be partitioned (outside Windows, eg Linux) but Windows will only identify the first partition: the others are invisible and unuseable. If the device driver is upgraded in a specific way, then the Removable Disk can be turned into a Local Disk in Explorer-speak, and the separate partitions become visible and useable.

Ed_P: do you agree that this ((i)and (ii)) is a reasonable summary?

Podman seems to be saying that his Integral Ice device shows up as a Removable Disk with 2 visible/ useable partitions.

A mismatch between (i) and (ii) as articulated above.

Hence my current understanding -> Trash.

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You are right ...

you don't need to trash your understanding .
The drive in question here has a "floppy-device" holding the security-software,
just like u3 has a "CD-ROM device" containing the Launchpad(TM).
apparently it is quite popular in Asian countries to have a bootable
floppy on your drive that can launch win98..

one note : windows only supports one MOUNTED partition on a flash-drive with
the RMB set to "removable" without using the special driver .
this doesn't mean that you can't have multiple partitions on the drive
but you can only mount one at any time and you can't create them on windows .

If the drives controller supports " multi LUN ",
as all these drives with a "private" passworded and a "public" partition do,
then it is possible, using the right software, to switch between partitions
(by hiding the one not to use and "un-hiding" the other).
this is independent of whether or not the drive has a
"CD-ROM" or "Floppy-drive" "partition" .
Unfortunately I don't know of any open-source portable software that can do this but the free software "LockItEasy" can do it (I believe admin-rights are required).

The software-link Keviin provided leads you to the famous Hewlett Packard USB-format tool,hugely popular in the world of "boot WinXP from your flash-drive".
this tool doesn't need to be installed, it works fine just by running the exe .

Please don't direct-link to any executable file without describing what it is ...

suggestion : How about a forum-topic dedicated to hardware-related issues
and technical discussions ?

@podman : You have the same problem that people who wanted to remove the
U3-CD-ROM device faced : you need some software that can "re-program" the
controller so it removes the floppy-device ..

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SP27608.exe is the setup

@Ed P SP27608.exe is the setup file for HP's USB Disk Formatting Tool. use that instead or windows xp's integrated formater as it can srew upp ur usb, well that's what i heard anyywais.

@RMB Fixed lolz haha sorri, i forgot abt it xD
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Related Question.-

I don't have an answer to you podman, sorry... but I want to add another question related to yours...

Can I have autorun.inf in both partition and both works?

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Creating one partition

I has the same problem. USB with two partition and UDPv270.exe.
My stand-alone DVD don't understand it (Linux inside), and I do one partition.
I download previous version 2.65, it can do one partition size equals 0, 2.70 can do minimum size 2 MB. When I do size non-secure partition equals 0 = I see only one partition and hasn't any problem with Linux.

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I believe the following

I believe the following tutorial should help some folks.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial116.html
Also follow the link in this tutorial for deleting a partition.
Hopefully this will help you get rid of the 2 partitions and make a single one. Good luck!

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