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Delay or InStability fix, before release a new version ???

Hi, ...

I will test today, Firefox 2.0 Alpha 1, on a "USB ThumbStickDrive".

= Did someone test the V2.0 Alpha 1 ???

Also, why there are delay, for the final Portable Firefox, V1.5.0.1, to be released ???

Thanks in advance, ...

Sylvain St-Amand

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*sigh*

Search before posting.

John's been very busy, and we were on a shared host -- each time a new app was released, it would get slashdotted and dugg, and the server would die.

We're now on a dedicated server, so JTH plans to release the new apps soon (the Suite page says a new suite will be released in two days). Keep your eyes open...

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Yes I have been using 2.0a1

Yes I have been using 2.0a1 off a pen drive for a while now and it seems to be working a lot better than the 1.6 nightly builds. I might write up a report on my blog soon.

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2.0?

An alpha of Firefox 2.0 is already out? Geez, 1.5 hasn't been around that long yet. What's so new and great about the next version that it deserves another +.5 version-number bump?

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Few new things

It has a few new things in it. The main thing is a complete revamp of bookmarks. It's now called Places and combines History in it. It's stored in a SQLLite database instead of an HTML file as well.

Snag the portable version and give it a try:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/browsers/portable_firefox/test

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Are there any launcher

Are there any launcher changes in that as I just copied the new files in?

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Yeah

There's a new launcher with a couple changes. Mainly is the ability to use local homepages when using the INI (a few people had asked for this, like when running tiddlywiki from a portable drive). Also, a new splash screen with a USB plug with *gasp* 4 prongs. I fixed it myself Smile

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Database? Bah.

I get the feeling Mozilla's getting too big for their britches. Firefox was originally designed as a minimalistic browser; if you wanted more functionality, you could download extensions. This, to me, was the greatest thing ever. Now, it seems like they're trying to put everything and the kitchen sink into the main browser. They're trying to be like Opera (all things to all people) and it's just not working. Sure, Opera pulled it off, but look at how long they've been around. They know what they're doing. Mozilla's been around quite a while too, but Firefox hasn't.

I mean, History combined with Bookmarks? That's an unholy union if I ever saw one. People are trained to go to History if they want their history, and Bookmarks or Favorites if they want their bookmarks. Computer novices aren't going to think to go to a thing called "Places" to get to these things, especially when no other browser that I know of is like this. "Places" sounds more user-friendly, but it's really not. Note to Mozilla: Keep it simple, stupid.

And yes, I did try 2.0 myself, so I'm not being pre-judgmental here. I didn't like the revamp at all.

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Not necessarily bad

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. And it's nothing like it will be in its final form. That's why they nixed the Firefox branding on it.

The database is a good idea as it will make searching for bookmarks faster and should be much more immune to losing bookmarks on crashed (the whole reason we have the bookmarksbackup folder now). It's SQLLite so it's VERY lightweight. Also, combining in history, if done correctly, could be a nice step forward. Think "there's this site that I went to before about portable apps or something" and being able to quickly search sites you've bookmarked and sites you've visited. As long as they preserve the ability to use bookmarks as expected and be able to get to a history view and use it as expected... I think experimenting is a good idea.

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I suppose it could work, but I'm still leery of the whole database thing. Sure, it improves performance, but now I lose the nifty ability to copy bookmarks.html somewhere and set it as my homepage. I don't personally do this, but it's a nice ability to have. So yeah, storing the bookmarks as an HTML file had its advantages, too.

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Export

They're going to have the ability to export and import HTML files in the old format. So, you can still do that if you'd like.

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Kitchen Sink

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Point proven.

You just proved my point. I already said "everything AND the kitchen sink." Smile

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