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NVU and Kompozer aren't good enough

I'm sorry if this seems a little redundant, but I have been using Kompozer for a while and it still has a few bugs that I can't get around. For example, it expects ALL pages to have a "title". CSS pages don't have titles. Also, the CSS tool is crap. I know that on Linux, I had a good time with Bluefish, but I can't run Linux at the library(not even a live distro) and my computer is down for the count with a fried power supply. Does anyone know how to compile Bluefish so that it will work on Windows and only write to it's own directory? If this isn't possible(or if it's too difficult), then does anyone know of a web editor with similar features? Any help would be appreciated.

I am currently using Notepad++, but it doesn't have auto-completion for tags(when I type "table", I want it to type "/table" for me)

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Hi, since your new

Hi,
since your new "Welcome"
as for your question...You should take your issues with the apps authors respected sites. As for recompiling I'll take a look but I can't make any promises about it Blum

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As for the compiling

I stumbled across a little DLL a while back. It's called winlin (winlin.sf.net) and I don't know if it works. You need to recompile the app though. So it's probably pointless.
Oh, and check here: http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&type_of_search=soft&w...

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NP PP

I know this doesn't answer your question, but it might help. Kompozer really does suck. So why not getting Notepad++ instead? Fairly customizable, and has some decent features for many different languages, with not too many bugs.

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net

or

https://portableapps.com/apps/development/notepadpp_portable

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Excuse me,

but the OP already said that he/she is using N++ currently.

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Oops

You're right!

MD, Notepad++ won't close your tags really. Still you can enable word completion, so most times when you type "" it'll suggest "" if you already have that word on the same document...

No code editor is perfect, and I've tried a few already. It's just shocking that all options out there lack something and are not too customizable. I wish I could pick the very comprehensive html and php tag completion from Zend Studio, the great CSS-editing tools from Microsoft Expression Web, the broad code highlighting from Notepad++ (which will recognize just about any code you type), all in a free open-source and highly customizable application, but that's sure damn near impossible.

So, if I have to stick with a single program I use NP++, sometimes opening a good CSS editor like Expression Web to remind me of some obscure attributes...

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alternative

Hi

NVU and Compozer really suck

You can check some alternative here:
http://www.portablefreeware.com/all.php

In particular:

HTML Portable Editor
Web Design Toy
CSS Tab Designer
EasyHtml
Doc Convertor

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Writing/book coach
Ghostwriter
Game creator

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Thanks for the links....

But None of that is working on these crappy library computers. What the *censored* happened to these computers!? Did hire a bunch of drunk and/or high gorillas as techs?! I did spot one ray of hope though, a screen shot of an unstable development build of Bluefish running through Cygwin on Windows XP. Here's the link:
http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/screenshots/bluefish_unstable_cygwin_xp.png

I also got a result on Google about an old version 1.0.7 windows build. It says the installer will download GTK if isn't present on the host system. Perhaps we can request the source code and turn this into another great portable application? Gonna need to talk that over with John, but here's the link to the Google Code page for it:
http://code.google.com/p/bluefish-win/

I can't install it to see if it works because I don't have admin rights. I will however start toying with the source code for the latest Bluefish build, as there is already a portable version of Dev-C++. By the way, when is a portable C++ compiler and matching IDE going to be an official project on this site? It's like the dev team for Portable Dev-C++ are either on vacation, or the project died.

comparison of features
Windows: empty pockets, slow computer, crippling malware, user level frustration, inability to meet deadlines, security holes
Linux: full pockets, super fast computer, endless software, endless customization, endless potential

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Nice

Bluefish would be great to have. It looks really nice with the latest version of GTK. I think it would be a nice addition if it's stable and updated. FTR, that's Windows just with the Ubuntu Human theme.

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Well, one solution to making

Well, one solution to making CSS pages is to use Notepad++ for CSS pages, and Komozer for HTML. I doubt you'll find one editor that does everything the way you want it for every programming language or task.

It sounds like you want tag completion for HTML; what are you looking for for CSS, or JS, or PHP?

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Well....

I have pretty much given up on trying to learn C++. I can edit other people's code and build it, but I can't write anything from scratch. So I recently started learning XHTML and I want tag completion as well as the ability to insert most tags at the click of a mouse, in case I forget exactly how an element is set up.

Also, there are a LOT of properties in CSS. Bluefish has a great tool for CSS, using a dialog box with a list of all the supported attributes. With Bluefish, I have the best of both worlds; the ability to auto-generate bits of code and the ability to tweak the code by hand if necessary. This means standards conforming code with little effort.

And, because Bluefish has no integrated preview function, I will always be looking at source code, so I am bound to memorize it eventually.

comparison of features
Windows: empty pockets, slow computer, crippling malware, user level frustration, inability to meet deadlines, security holes
Linux: full pockets, super fast computer, endless software, endless customization, endless potential

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