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Portable Apps Suite license

I read that the Portable Apps menu is licensed under GPL?

My understanding was that EVERYTHING that is in the same file as the GPL-ed code has to be GPL as well. This would also mean the graphics and icons have to be under the same license I'm afraid.

I ran into this problem when trying to use a game maker that generates an executable file, which according to the GPL license as explained the Graphics and custom logic of the game were under the same license as well, in essence making the whole game fall under GPL. The only solution was to somehow link the things you don't want to GPL externally so they are not part of the executable.

I even discussed it with an Open Source authority and they pretty much told me that using an Open Source game maker would mean everything included in the executable falls under the same license.

So if someone wants to use non open source content (for example graphics) with open source, they should not be included into the Open Source executable.

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Nope

Everything compiled into the EXE and DLL used (except OS-level DLLs) has to be GPLed. But non-open source graphics - as well as other binaries, for that matter - can be bundled with GPLed apps. Songbird, for instance, is under the GPL and ships with a default theme that is not.

Also, the GPL does not apply to trademarks or trade dress. This is why there is no reference granting use of it in the GPL.

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Ah thanks for clarifying. I

Ah thanks for clarifying.

I had troubles using the game maker to use for closed source games. The FAQ stated that everything inside the generated executable is being published under the same license as the code of the executable including user generated logic and graphics.

OSI advised me to look toward other solutions than the open source game maker if I wanted to make a closed sourced game.

Does GPL only exclude registered trademarks or also unregistered trademarks?

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Well...

The compiler would probably include their own routines into the compiled binary, which are licensed under the GPL. That's why it must also be GPL licensed.

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bundled?

John said:
Everything compiled into the EXE and DLL used (except OS-level DLLs) has to be GPLed.

Well, what about installers?

I mean: an installer is itself a compiled EXE. Therefore, everything compiled into an installer that contains GPLed code should be GPLed as well. Is that right?

For example: FreeCommander provides also a paf version, where the portable launcher is based on John's NSIS launchers that are GPLed, but the main program is Freeware.
Is this a violation of the GPL license?

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Yes it is a violation of the

Yes it is a violation of the license.

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No

The installer is open source but the contents to be installed is not. I think I read it somewhere. But tbh, if the installer forced the to be installed content into GPL it would effectivly mean the end of the usability of any open source installer.

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Nope

If the installer is BSD, it can be used with any software open or closed. If it is GPLed, it can only be used with GPLed software. So, yes, the linked software would be violating the GPL if they are using an installer based on mine.

A version of the PortableApps.com Installer that can be used with freeware and payware is coming but it won't be released until the installer/format are finalized.

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I peeked at NSIS license and

I peeked at NSIS license and am a bit confused still. It uses 4 licenses. While I could not see the license of the thing I am wondering if I could use the installer for any software I want, even commercial or closed source... If NSIS has any restrictions in that part I should switch back to good old Inno Setup.

And what about the plugins, yet another license to bother with?

About the Portable Apps Installer script. If I made an installer script from scratsh, that finds the correct folder of portable apps, would I not end up with the same commands to find the folder? And for 'payware' does that mean people have to buy licenses for the installer script?

I love open source but sometimes the licenses and restrictions give me a headache.

Say IF SNIS allows use for pay ware, and IF you allow commercial apps to install for portable apps, then using one GPL splash screen for the launcher would ruin it all to be used commercially?

Sorry for being such a Open Source newbie Smile

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OT: Reply about Update

"Off topic. During writing Firefox popped up for an updated version"

Do NOT allow auto/self updating of FFP without reading:
https://portableapps.com/node/10338

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It asked me one day and I

It asked me one day and I said yes... to late to turn it off now Smile

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