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Paint.NET

I've seen a couple of posts asking for a decent, simple image editing tool. I think I've got a good suggestion for a tool that comes in between GIMP and Microsoft Paint.

http://www.getpaint.net/

It's a project that started in a University programming class and has blossomed into a surprisingly powerful image editing tool that is still simple enough for most users. Moreover, it's distributed on the MIT License, so it -is- OSS, which meets the requirements for here. Better still, the install size (at least on a local hard disk) is just shy of 9 MB, so it's a very small, tight application to boot.

I tried loading it up on my PA drive just a few minutes ago and it would need a little fixing up (there are four utility .exe files in the root folder, so Paint.NET shows up five times in the PA menu) but considering the full source is available, it shouldn't take too much work to do.

I'm going to be suggesting the same idea (A PA version of Paint.NET) on their forums as well.

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OSS not enough

"so it -is- OSS, which meets the requirements for here"

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see:
https://portableapps.com/node/12441

but Welcome to PortableApps.com Smile

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it can't really be truly

it can't really be truly portable because of it's dependency on the .NET framework. Not many PCs will have .NET installed, and if they do, it may not be the right version of .NET (NONE of the versions are forward or backwards compatible).

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Well, crud...

I searched for "paint" on this forum and didn't see anything for PDN at all, and there it is, already mentioned and shot down...

Of course, personal experience with .NET 2.0 is that it's installed on pretty much every machine I've ever touched, even those set up by other users who aren't technically competent.

All the same, it's disappointing since PDN is a GOOD image editor for being free. And it doesn't have GIMP's interface, if you catch my meaning. (And in case you didn't, I'd be more than happy to write a diatribe on the disaster that is GIMP's UI. Ahem.)

Also disappointing... I can't develop anything for PA... since I'm a C# developer. Not that I have any worthwhile ideas, anyhow.

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yeah...this site's search

yeah...this site's search feature acts a bit screwy sometimes lol

.NET really isn't all that common, there's a whole writeup on framework distribution around here somewhere. It was written by John T. Haller, the owner of this site, and gives a breakdown of how (un)common the framework really is.

PDN is a great free image editor, and yes, i know what you mean about GIMP's UI

You may not be able to develop and app that becomes an official PortableApps.com application, but I'm sure you could develop some great open source apps for non-portable use, or for portable use between PCs that you know will have the proper version of the framework installed.

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Not true. 3.0 can run 2.0.

Not true. 3.0 can run 2.0.

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the initial release of 3.0

the initial release of 3.0 could run 2.0, but their service pack for 3.0 broke the backwards compatibility.

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It's actually .NET 3.5.

It's actually .NET 3.5. That's totally different.

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Would it be possible for

Would it be possible for someone to make a Launcher for Paint.NET because I know that I would use it. There is no need to make a Launcher if not many people will use it, but I know that I would like one.

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Whether or not its truly portable, its still extremely useful

Paint.NET is one app I'd really like to see on my USB drive. Where I work there's lots of hot-desking and lots of PC's without admin rights. All the PC's have Windows XP SP2 and the .NET2.0 framework.

Having Paint.NET on a stick would be greatly beneficial for people who cannot install for various reasons, but already have .NET 2.0.

I say go for it!

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Edit:

About .NET versions, Versions 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 are interoperable. If you have 3.5 or 3.0 installed you can run 2.0 applications under that framework version. If you are developing in VS2008 (which defaults to .NET3.5 compilation) you can compile against any framework subset from V2.0 upwards.

Even .NET 1.1 can be installed alongside .NET 2.0/3.0/3.5 on the same PC. Two processes running on different frameworks can execute simultaneously. The problem is you cannot have a single process accessing both 1.1 and 2.0+ frameworks.

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Paint.NET

Just wanted to put in my two cents worth and say that I too would love to see Paint.NET as a portable app. It's a great program!

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please read

well it may be a good program, but as stated above your post, .NET must be installed on the host pc for it to run and since .NET is closed source we can't make it or Paint.NET portable

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Yes you can...

Here's an older version of the program as a portable: https://portableapps.com/node/4102

However Paint.Net as part of its user agreement requires you to always be using the latest version: and that one is already out of date, so gives a "you have to upgrade" screen and closes. : (

As for portability, .Net is installed on tons of computers, .Net is prolific; as for Linux, etc. there's this little thing called "MONO". That's even very prolific just because of handy-dandy usually-by-default programs installed like Tomboy which require it.

Currently the source code is unavailable due to some license violation, apparently; (it's MIT licensed by the way), EXCEPT for an edition already being ported to Linux/Unix here: http://code.google.com/p/paint-mono/ (also MIT licensed).

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Also it only runs on

Also it only runs on XP/Vista. Not sure about Wine, but Windows 2000 is no go.

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If I Were

If I were to create a portable paint.net for someone to use so they can have it portable, would their be a legal site that i could host the app so others can download it...?

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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You could probably host it on

You could probably host it on source forge as I believe paint.net is opensource

Else, you could contact the good folks at Http://www.simplexitynetwork.com and ask for a small website.

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Nope

Paint.NET is not Open Source as defined by OSI/SourceForge/Google Code. It includes a non-commercial library in it.

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U could host it here, as long

U could post it here, as long as the .NET framework isn't included.

Be sure to post a message to inform all users that it will only work on PCs that have the proper version of .NET installed.

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Only if...

Only if you didn't include the .Net Framework nor portabilized it. Thus automatically limiting it to users who have it. Actually, there was an older version of Portable Paint.Net made on this site without the .Net Framework, as it is totally legal.

If you do include/portabilize the .Net Framework then just post it on warez sites and don't leave a link.

Oh, host. Then there is Google Code... SourceForge... a hosting server that allowed file sharing... only if you didn't portabilize nor include .Net Framework.

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OK Let me get this twisted

Now if i understand correctly (which i doubt i do...)
There IS!!! a website that i can host the open source paint.net portable app that i made?
I dont really understand what any of you told me........
I just want a yes or no and if yes then HOW!!! and where...MOSTLY HOW!!!

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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And don't post warez on the

And don't post warez on the Simplexity Network either

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OliverK

Ok someone answer my question but first let me ask...
OliverK where are you right now?

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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In a blue chair

In a blue chair

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Funny!!!

I know where you are!!! by that i mean i am closer than you think!!! or at least i hope...How Old Are You?

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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through the glory of the

through the glory of the internet, ageless

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I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

it a one in how ever many billion of people on this earth's chance but i know who you are man just give me a hint or anything...

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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Why

don't you move this discussion to the off topic forum or the IRC?
Cause it has nothing to do with .NET does it?

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I KNOW WHO YOU

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!
Doubtful.

it a one in how ever many billion of people on this earth's chance but i know who you are man just give me a hint or anything...

I refuse to answer any more questions of this sort. It is wasting bandwidth, and is information you do not need to know.

Are you glad your account didn't get deleted?

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Wack

Ok nevermind...
Sup dude...all im going to say anywhayz
Backto my question

"Are you threatening a government official!?"
because
"WE! print the money"
"WE! tell you how to spend it"
and
"We BREED! the super soilders"
...
"Um...Forget that last part about the super soilders"
...

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Portable

I Can make it portable for you, but it will be as large as the complete .Net Framework, the programm uses.

Just ask me

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Dotnet portable

Can't we make .net portable? Now PA accepts freeware, there's no block. Or not?

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Unfortunately not

There's all kinds of blocks, the simple answer is "no, it can't be done", legal issues notwithstanding, I believe there are technical constraints too.

There's discussions all over the forums about this.

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Recipe for disaster

IIRC, .NET sticks tentacles all through the computer (especially lots of Registry entries); it could probably be done, but not without an awful lot of work. Add in the different versions of .NET that would have to be accommodated (I'm reasonably certain the different versions would require different handling), and toss in a slew of MS lawyers, and you've got the perfect recipe for disaster.

That's just my recollection, though, and I could be wrong...

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Correct

It's technically far too complex for the current scope of this project; I think it'd require DLL injection of alternative Win32 API hooks, rather like Wine except for Windows (very similar to MadCHook but we'd do it open source if we were doing it). Let alone the legal aspects of it (patents, copyrights, EULAs, Windows Genuine Notification, etc.).

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Transmission DotNet

[Please don't go that thoroughly off-topic, create a new thread in Request Apps for that - mod Chris]

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Made it

I've made a portable version of Paint.NET, with .NET installation verification embedded into the launcher.

If anyone is interested, tell me Smile

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Hi Radarman36, I'm really

Hi Radarman36,

I'm really interested in your portable version of paint.net. Are you gonna upload it somewhere or do you want an email-adress?

Thanks in advance!

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Upload, no problem ;)

I've uploaded it for you, and here's the download link :

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dtg2lkktgjl

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Thanks a lot radarman36!

Thanks a lot radarman36! Great Job!

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Installing Paint.net Effects

How do you install effects? Primarily, I'm trying to install an effects package in Paint.net: http://users.telenet.be/krisvandermotten/Downloads/PaintDotNetEffects.html

Thanks in advance,
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Install Paint.NET Effects

Million thanks radarman36!! That was a fantastic work!!

For installing any plugin... I suppose if we are working with a .NET program (no registry usage) you can install non-portable Paint.NET, then install the plugin, then copy all files in %programfiles%\Paint.NET to your portable application directory.

Hope help. Good luck!

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