Have not been able to find a menu theme that incorporates the use of ToolTips. Would appreciate the name of any theme that does. If no theme is currently available would like information on the coding necessary to modify an existing theme and what file to modify? The only files I can find that seem to be relevant would be theme.ini or desktop.ini but unfortunately I am a novice in programming or writing themes.
Searching for "tooltips" does not seem to produce info to answer my questions.
Thanks,
Tom
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Themes incorporating ToolTips
September 29, 2008 - 3:32pm
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Themes incorporating ToolTips
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Perhaps something like this: http://ptc.kain-planet.de/details.php?file=205
you will need to use the PAM Menu Mod R31 or Above, available here:
http://ptc.kain-planet.de/details.php?file=283
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Depending on what you want exactly, there may be a solution.
Where do you want to see the tooltip exactly? Please fill in the blank:
I want to see a tooltip when I point at ___________ .
Jim
neutron1132 (at) usa (dot) com
Compact menus show Documents,Pictures,Help, etc in icon form only.
*Would like to see a ToolTip when pointing to each individual icon.
*Would also like to add a ToolTip showing a brief description of each program when pointing to those icons. Currently a mouse over shows the program path. Sometimes the name of the program is not enough for someone not familiar with each of them.
Have installed the PAM Mod R34 and have been able to add functional "Exit" and "Eject" buttons to some of the themes where this has been omitted.
Do appreciate the interest to assist. If possible would like a good reference on creating/coding themes. The graphics are not an issue.
Tom
If you installed a program, you should know what it does...
Hehe...
Name: PsychoComputerKiller
Tooltip: This is a virus. Don't run it or it will erase everything on your computer.
As for the tooltips for icons in Compact mode, though, that's a good idea...
You can get a tooltip of your own creation on folders/categories of the R34 Mod Menu, but you are right... the tooltip for programs shows only the program's path. I'm assuming that the program tooltip is created within the R34 Mod Menu itself, especially considering that the tooltip begins with "Location: X:\PortableApps\" etc, etc - someone has made it say that.
I don't know of any Mod themes that don't include the "Exit" button. Many older themes were created before "Eject" existed, so you would have to create the button (and programming) yourself.
If the graphics are not an issue for you, then a good reference about the R34 Mod Menu can be found:
R34 Mod Menu Tutorial
Part 6 of the tutorial (not yet completed) will cover custom buttons. Comments via email are welcome.
Jim
neutron1132 (at) usa (dot) com
Bruce said:"If you installed a program, you should know what it does"
Left clicking on any of the icons for Documents,Music.>.>.>Search only presents the option to change the name or the path of the icon. It does not give any option to create a ToolTip for the icon. I am more interested in hard coding so if you happen to know of a code sequence to include ToolTips for specific icons the info would be appreciated.
J Neutron: Clicking on folders/categories of the R34 Mod Menu only allows the creation of a category folder that will open and close to present its contents. As indicated I have already figured out how to include an Eject button and a button to switch from "full" to "compact" modes.
Unfortunately the link to the R34 Mod Menu Tutorial only addresses the "Mod Menu" and not the actual hard coding parameters that are in the "theme.ini" file. Any suggestion as to where this information can be found?
Again thanks for the assistance,
Tom
Um.... for the R34 Mod Menu, if you right-click on the folder, choose "Category" then "Edit Category" it DOES let you set a "hint" (or tooltip).
Please click on the tutorial link again and choose the "R34 Menu Modification Tutorial" (in English or German).
Part 1 covers the autorun.inf and locale files
Part 2 covers the other files that come with the R34 Mod Menu
Part 3 covers the theme.ini parameters for the application window
Part 4 covers the theme.ini parameters for the folders (right side)
Part 5 covers the theme.ini parameters for the bottom (drive name/space)
Part 6 covers the theme.ini custom buttons
As of this particular moment, Part 5 is being translated, so it isn't online yet. Part 6 is still being written.
Is this what you are looking for?
Jim
neutron1132 (at) usa (dot) com
"Um.... for the R34 Mod Menu, if you right-click on the folder, choose "Category" then "Edit Category" it DOES let you set a "hint" (or tooltip)."
Missed that one but it still only refers to the category Icon. For my purpose "Security Programs" or "Utilities" is sufficient. But for ClamWin in the "Security Programs" folder,never heard of it until I downloaded PAM and actually ran it. So a program ToolTip might say "An Anti-Virus Program" instead of my current menu title "ClamWin.....Anti-Vurus"
The R34 Menu Modification Tutorial is well written and clear in what it addresses and has proven to be most helpful. Someone knew how to write out the code and that is what I have developed an interest in. Learning to write theme coding (not copying) now that there does not yet seem to be a specific answer to my initial ToolTip question for the menu icons. I have no idea where the Bracketed item (from a theme.ini)or the individual parameters came from,what are available or are required. I understand the individual functions only after reading them.
[MenuButtons]
FontName=Tahoma
FontColorR=0
FontColorG=0
FontColorB=0
Bold=1
Italic=0
Underline=0
StrikeOut=0
I have found the following in the Rainlendar Calendar Skins(ie theme) folder,english.ini file:
[ToolTip]
ToolTipFontColor=0
ToolTipBGColor=E1FFFF
ToolTipFont=-11/0/0/0/400/0/0/0/0/3/2/1/34/Arial
and
[Profile 5]
Name=PayDay
ToolTipFontColor=008800
EventIconName=Icons/MoneyBag.png
EventBitmapName=Numbers-Large-Green.png
So it has led me to believe it is possible in the theme.ini files but cannot figure out how to apply it yet.
Thanks for your patience,
Tom
I don't think you can take a section from the ini of one program and assume that it will work in the ini of another.
The program has to know/understand the items that are in the ini so it can properly respond to the settings. I'm pretty sure that right now, the R34 Mod Menu doesn't understand what [ToolTip] means. Someone with more programming skills than I could tell the R34 Mod Menu what to do when it sees a [ToolTip] section in the ini file.
All of the Mod menus are open-source forks of the open-source PortableApps.com official menu. You could take the source code of the R34 (or other) menu and modify it to understand ToolTips. This programming is beyond my current interest and capabilities.
However, I could see how the [sbtnMusic] section (for example) could hold a tooltip to show in addition to the mouse-over highlight box. The PAFdata could hold a tooltip for a program. Again, just putting them in there won't do it... the program has to understand what to do with it.
Have fun in your quest!
Jim
P.S. Glad you liked the tutorials.
neutron1132 (at) usa (dot) com
Bottom line appears a new exe file. If a function like [ToolTip] is not written into the exe file then it is not available, and so far it does not appear to have been included.
Thanks for the assistance,
Tom