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variant dist. with 1.6

A quick scan did not show anyone else commenting on precisely this: I recently moved one of my teaching flashkeys from 1.5 to 1.6; I was disappointed. The portableapps shell seems fine, but the version of OOo (3.1.x?) included was buggy. Most notably and most important for me, it would freeze when asked to open an existing file. I uninstalled it, finally, and replaced it with 3.2, and this appears to work correctly. Both, however, are >>DRAMATICALLY

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OOo3.2 installation is also a problem.

Is there anyway to get older OOo 3.x versions? Alternatively, do I dare just sort of do an overwrite of the 3.2 files with the files from the older one on my other key?

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Older versions

I thought it might be a good idea to point you toward older version downloads. It looks like versions all the way back to 1.0.2 are available. Maybe they will be happy to help you.

http://archive.services.openoffice.org/pub/openoffice-archive/stable/

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Do You really wait for an aswer?

... cause sometimes it is a better idea to check for local problems like hardware or the used host system first instead of flaming the developers of two of the main Open Source applications.

A better way could be giving us some more informations about Your host system (OS version, ram, flash drive) in order to find a solution for Your problem.

The included version OpenOffice.org version 3.1.1 in the PortableApps.com Suite 1.6 is not buggy. It works fine for the most systems, but there are some problems for some host systems. And if version 3.2 is dramtically slower than 3.0.1 this is a big hint for problems on Your system, cause in fact 3.2 works much faster (!) than every 3.x version before.

Older version of OpenOffice.org Portable (and othe apps) You'll find on:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/

But it is not recommended to use older versions, cause only the newest version will include all available fixes.

And last but not least: Think a little bit about Your words. You get great stuff for free (!) and wants support for free too, from people who spends there money and spare time for it. You should respect them and their work a little bit more.

But You are free to use any other App You want Wink

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No, don't wait; fix problems...

Mark, giving you host system data would be a long process; this is >>PORTABLEAPPS

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The answer to all of your problems.

It seems you have an issue with the people who develop OpenOffice - not the people here at this site. I believe your vitriol is misdirected.

I do find it amusing that you would use the word "smug" and then add an obscure German reference! Personally, when it comes to Teutonic profanity, I prefer the words of the toaster from Act II of "Joe's Garage" by Frank Zappa! Wink

As for increasing the speed of OpenOffice 3.2, there are simple tweaks to the settings that I've found that work quite well.
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I responding to a German, after all.

I was also noting a difficulty with OOo 3.1/3.2 as it obtains when running from PA1.6. You rightly note, the problem is not PortableApps. On the other hand, OOo is bundled with PA, which implies a certain approbation.

Now, this may be like teaching granny to suck eggs, but: Flash drives connecting through USB ports are relatively slow. While performance varies dramatically by brand, the general rule of thumb is, best flash drive performance is half that of current hard drives (you can check this with a simple online query). Add to this the speed constrictions of USB (not vast, but not trivial, either) and one begins to appreciate just what PA achieves, both as an environment itself and as a supplier of optimized portable applications. But: Fat, unwieldy applications must inevitably present problems.

Far too many programmers (I speak from having had to hire them, then constrain them to do the job) get caught up in the neat-hack syndrome. This has recently been affecting community-based software to an alarming degree. E. g., the latest Tbird adds tabs — about as useless as teats on a bull. The latest Firefox loads far more slowly than its predecessors, and far more slowly than, e. g., Chrome — and its "neat hacks" appear to result in compatibility problems with admittedly rather staid, but to some of us essential, business application software.

OOo is not an exception to this. In a desktop or notebook environment, running from a speedy hard disk, and so on, this is a relatively trivial issue. Running from a flash key it most certainly is not — however welcome an extra cup of coffee, while waiting for things to load, may be. If you cannot understand this, I can only assume you have not had serious corporate computing responsibility. [Please, spare me your resumé, I'm not presently hiring.]

I found, in my own use, the earlier version, cloned easily from a earlier setup and kept as a live backup, loaded faster, and called data files faster and more accurately. Others with whom I have had this discussion concur in my experience anent desktop performance, and when shown the two variants using PA, agreed it could be a problem. People do talk tech, you know....

Tweaks are nice; they take time to find, implement. Some of us are engaged in a wider range of activity and lack the leisure to pursue this; we like stuff to work right out of the box. When one has to go searching, one does this effectively and efficiently. In this case, that meant reversion to a known-functioning version of the software.

[But it is nice to know that there is a class of folks who have nothing better to do than tweak software that shouldn't need tweaking.]

Finally, I am sorry that your education was defective in world-lit; undoubtedly your time was spent grinding out code and documenting tweaks; how very sad. The reference is to a very famous line in a play by Goethe, which led to a fairly common German expression, "Leck mich im arsch." Mozart's treatment (cf: http://www.goear.com/listen/e758712/leck-mich-im-arsch-mozart) is perhaps the most æsthetically appealing.

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Your sense of indignant

Your sense of indignant entitlement is entirely appropriate. Your dismissal of my education and my tongue-in-cheek humor is a testament to your highly evolved intellect. I defer to your superior ability to kvetch, and I shall retire from this discussion to get back to my re-reading of Ungeduld des Herzens.

I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.

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Do what You want ... :-)

... bye or use the software You want and pay for support.

Perhaps You'll find anybody who is willing to accept Your offenses and answer to Your rude words if You'll pay him enough Wink

Or better, use Your genius and the source code and create a better, quicker an bug free version of every Open Source software You want to use.

There is time to write all the lovely words and citing poets but no time to give us some more informations about Your system(s), funny...!?

If Your only intentions is flaming and finding someone to talk, You are not interessted in a solution and You are free to call a service number for this purpose.

My last words to You are some of Edgar Allen Poe:
"I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." and William Shakespeare: "The rest is silence" (Hamlet).

Smile

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What You need is OSS!

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