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ClamAV

Hi!

I found many discussions on forums about ClamAV. I know you support ClamWin which does not support real-time protection. ClamAV has real-time protection and it is free and open source. Can you please support it too? Is there any plans about it?

Thank you!

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ClamAV is ClamWin's engine

If you had read some of the many discussions you found on the forums, you would find that most of them are really not about ClamAV, but mostly about:

1) ClamWin, which is a windows interface to the ClamAV engine, or
2) viruses/malware reports by ClamAV engine.

From 1) above it follows that, when you have ClamWin, you necessarily also have the ClamAV engine (or else the interface wouldn't be able to do anything).

As for the real-time protection, there is a windows sollution also based on ClamAV that offers this, it's called "Immunet 3.0, powered by ClamAV" (see http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/about/win32/). However, real-time scanning is pointless within a portable application, because the scanner has to be started before the system starts to be of real use.

Edit: a quick check on ClamAV's website couldn't give me the definite answer, but it seems that Immunet 3.0, powered by ClamAV is not open source, but freeware solution. Also, it seems to be (partly) cloud based.

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It is difficult to create

It is difficult to create Immunet portable?

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I believe..

I believe it probably would be very difficult, as some parts of Immunet are cloud based, so they wouldn't be on your flash drive at all. I am, by no means, an expert in these things (I just started making portable apps, myself), so take that for what it's worth. Maybe one of the pro's can offer more info...

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no point in doing it

as a real time scanner can not be done portable or it has no sense being portable as it has to be started on boot of the operating system and needs system components to be installed on the machine.
So to have it portable, you need to install the system components under admin rights, reboot the system, run it, use it and when finished uninstall all the components under admin rights, reboot the system again.

Therefore there is no such thing as real time scanner and only on demand scanner exists and for that clam is fine enough.

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I use all portable on my

I use all portable on my local computers not on external drive (but I have a copy of all portable apps on a external device). I think there are many users like me.

I can not understand why the main focus of portableapps.com is to use the portable apps on external devices. Portable apps wors perfect on local drive too. We have two applications for file associations. There are many important reasons to use portable apps on local. For example some of them:

--Windows is always getting slower after installing any new application
--Windows losts its stability after installing any new application
--Windows losts its secure after installing any new application
--I don't spend my time to install 40 application after each format on any computer (I know there are many stable backup applications for Windows but after recover the updates of each program takes time and some apps lost stability with updates many times (overlap) ).
--Some application lost its stability when updates itself (always zero installation is better). That's why some apps unistall and than installs itself on each update.
--If any app losts it's stability, I dont have the possiblity to remove the user-data folder. (on portabele apps we have Data folder which includes all user-preferences...)
--and many other reasons that I will now write them here...

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We don't focus only on cloud/portable devices. We have lots of users that use portable apps on their local PC. What's being discussed here is a technical limitation. A true realtime virus scanner should be started earlier in the Windows boot process (before getting to your Startup group) and should run as a priviledged process so it can better prevent viruses. A portable app (read: on the local drive but not 'installed') simply can't do that and will thus be much less secure. So you should install a true realtime antivirus locally. Microsoft Security Essentials is my personal recommendation for folks looking for a free one.

Just because we're recommending something for technical reasons doesn't mean we don't advocate portable software for most local needs. This topic here and the one about Microsoft Office (which has DRM that locks it to specific hardware and registers it online) would be some of the few exceptions.

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I understand... I try my

I understand... I try my luck: Immunet seems very simple-different application... Are we 100% sure / can we research if Immunet needs to start a sevice (or process...) on boot of windows (before startup)?

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Cost - Benefit

It likely can be hacked not to use it. But that makes your box less secure (as a virus can load before it and interfere) for no good reason. Use a realtime antivirus as intended (installed and loading early in the Windows start process) and just accept the fact that you need a couple apps installed. Smile

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no need

> can we research if Immunet needs to start a sevice (or process...) on boot of windows (before startup)?

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