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Alternate download

Where i can download any of the applications included in the portable suite? Must be different that sourceforge, because my country is blocked in this site. I live in Cuba.

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We Can't

We can not legally assist you with downloading software with encryption technology within it. To do so within the United States is punishable with prison.

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"software with encryption technology within it"

Software that has used encryption technology when it was created or software that supports encryption technology?

Is there not a version of PortableApps that doesn't have an encryption app built in?

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No

Nearly all of our popular apps have restricted encryption algorithms built in (firefox, thunderbird, libreoffice, pidgin, 7zip, etc). The platform includes 7zip for backup/restore. Even if we did have a version without it and setup an alternate download for allowed open source apps, it wouldn't be very useful without any browsers, chat clients, voip, archive, etc.

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Games

But isn't the PortableApps download now a roll your own. No longer a suite of pre-installed apps? If so the menu and most games should not be restricted by the encryption restriction.

And since the writer is posting obviously he/she already has a browser.

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As John said in the post you

As John said in the post you replied to, the Platform includes 7zip for backup/restore.

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Per Project

It's also per project. So we could theoretically create a second pa prject on sf, have a version of the platform with no backup/restore. Recompile the nsis inetc plugin without ssl. And have no browsers, chat clients, remote connectivity, voip, office suites, word processors, pdf readers, etc. But it wouldn't be terribly useful.

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Link?

I don't doubt you, but that's a weird law. Is there a link that talks about this? (A google search didn't reveal anything).

Also fsendoya, is download.cnet.com blocked? I'm just curious as to how far your internet restrictions go.

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SourceForge

SourceForge restricts downloads for all projects to Cuba, Iran, etc unless the project certifies thatt it doesn't contain any prohibited encryption tech. By law, all US companies are supposed to.

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As requested

As requested, here's a link where SF outlines the details of the policy.

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Link?

Yes, is a very weird law, but is not only with sourceforge, where most projects are opensource or free, we can not download any applications directly from google too. In this case they said that the service is not available in our country.

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You can't download from google?

That sucks. Have you tried visiting download.cnet.com? It's a place where they host a lot of software too. I like that they have a search bar that helps me find apps for my desktop and USB drive. Is that website blocked in Cuba?

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US Law

Cuba isn't blocking these sites. US sites have to block Cuba, Iran and other 'terrorist'/'rogue' states by law. Companies don't get a say in the matter. Nor do Cubans.

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seems a bit backward

just encourages the illegal versions to get used ... thought things were getting friendlier with US & Cuba ... who else is blocked -- any eastern Mediterranean states? --- I'll look it up

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Usual Suspects

The usual suspects: Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria.

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Let's clear some confusion.

Let's clear some confusion. It's not a weird law.

It's basic sanctioning. The countries listed above, for many and varying reasons are sanctioned by the United States law. Sanctioning means to block and prevent all trade.

Trading with sanctioned countries is a highly federal offense. I remember a story back several years ago about Travelocity selling a trip to a man mistakenly from Cuba, which resulted in some high fines.

It may seem weird, but sanctioning includes technology and software. SourceForge.net back a while ago was required to create blacklists to certain countries under federal request. Unfortunately, all our downloads are hosted on SourceForge. Not that it matters that much, considering we can't provide downloads in these countries regardless.

This encryption thing is new to me, can someone link to, or explain that part?

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Encryption

The embargoed bit to these countries is about encryption. And, just about everything has encryption these days. Browsers, chat clients, voip, email clients and remote connection utilities all make secure connections (aka encrypted). Office suites can password protect documents (aka encryption). PDF files can be password protected and protected from changed (encryption again).

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relevant bit of a wiki

relevant bit of a wiki article relating to exporting cryptography in the US.

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