Anybody got any opinions on the fastest 2GB usb drive out there? I have tried the following:
OCZ Rally2 (faster than the others, no speed demon and design is lacking)
Titanium Cruzer (2nd fastest to Rally2, nice design)
Corsair Voyager (patheticly slow)
The Geil David is the fastest on the market, I think (readily available commercially). There's a price premium and it maxes out at 2GB. It uses separate controllers for reading and writing. I got one for a buddy of mine and it's pretty fast.
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Wow! I have both 512M and 2G OCZ drives. I love them, as they are very fast. Not only is this Geil faster but it doesn't have the problem of the OCZ sticks where I have to keep track of the caps.
Thanks for the post.
Hello John;
This may be one of those posts. I was wondering about the heat generated. I have only had two type of USB flash drives. But I do notice that some just get real hot.
The double controlers is a nice touch so is the speed but would you know about how hot it gets.
I all so notice that many of these neat items can not be purchased locally.
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The fastest USB sticks on the market seem to be the Buffalo Firestix type R sticks (32MB read/27MB write).
http://de.buffalotech.com/products/product-detail.php?productid=118&cate...
Follow-ups are the A-Data PD-7 (30/20; http://www.adata.com.tw/adata_en/product_detail.php?ProductNo=AP07200SV ) and the PowerRam 3.0 sticks (30/20; http://www.satron.at/sticks.html )...
The OSC Rally2 is about 25/18...
The only problem is that you CAN NOT go by the straight read and write speeds when you're talking about portable app performance. Running apps involves reading and writing and rapidly switching between the two... often with short chunks of data. The read and write numbers released as specs for drives are based on JUST reading or JUST writing a long chunk of data. So, they're useful for determining how long it will take to read or write that big MP3 or DIVX file. But, they don't necessarily translate into app performance.
The Geil David I suggested is rated at 30MB read, 20MB write... BUT its big deal is that it's dual channel. It can read and write simultaneously, which greatly improves app performance.
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When it comes to optimal PortableApp performance whats the recommended filesystem and cluster size?
Ive been using FAT32 with the standard cluster size.
The only problem is that you CAN NOT go by the straight read and write speeds when you're talking about portable app performance. -- John T. Haller
John is absolutely right. I have had about a dozen different drives including the OCZ 2 Gb, the Corsair Flash Voyager 4 Gb and the Sandisk U3 Titanium 2 Gb and I have sold or returned all except the Sandisk Cruzer Titanium (and not because of the U3 - he he).
For a while, I read all the forums (including the comparison noted below and the comparisons on Tom's Hardware) to find the fastest drive. As a consequence, I bought the Corsair. Tested on HDSpeed (small portable app to test read and write speeds) and found blazing speeds. I then set out to create a truecrypt archive of 2 Gb on it. It kept on losing power 1/2 way though the operation and I would have to reformat the drive. I did this a dozen times. I then simply tried to copy a 1.4 Gb XviD over -- it started very fast, but did not finish...reformat. In short, fast, but unreliable in my limited experience...so useless. Maybe it was just a problem with that particular drive? Don't know, don't care. I returned it.
Next purchase was an OCZ 2 Gb stick. Tested on HDSpeed and found very very fast reads and writes, but only on files larger than 5 Mb. On smaller files, it was a snail on both read and mostly write speeds. I thought the tests were flukes so I kept the drive for about 6 months since I like the slim size and the black aluminium. I ended up selling the drive because unless you are only moving movies and mp3's around, the snail write speed on small files (1k, 16k, etc.) really bogs you down. This is especially true for portable apps since you are constantly reading and writting little exe's, dll's, ini's, etc.
Last purchase and current drive is a Sandisk Cruzer Titanium 2 Gb. When I tested it out on HDSpeed, it was craking out 15 Mb going down to 10 Mb for smaller files with write speeds slightly slower. Needless to say, I was disappointed with the speed and nearly ended up returning this one too since the OCZ was already at more than 20 Mb read and pretty close to that on write speeds for larger files. Because I really liked the size, ergonomics and the slider (instead of a cap), I tried one last series of test...real world tests versus the OCZ.
I copied a 1.4 Gb move HD to and from OCZ and same movie HD Titanium. Difference in time was less than 10 seconds with OCZ being faster -- wierd, I would have thought that the difference would have been much more. Tried again with 500 Mb of MP3's of between 8 Mb and 2 Mb. On read test, both were neck and neck. On writes, the TITANIUM was faster by 30 seconds. Very wierd. I ended the test with copying 11 Mb of fonts (very small files). OCZ was left in the dust. I did the tests two or three times and got roughly the same results (don't quote me on the exact difference to the second).
So the conclusion is that published/measured drive speed is not that important in everyday life. It's like the gigahertz battle between Intel and AMD -- who is faster? Who cares, get more RAM and a faster HD and you'll see more results than changing processor speed.
I kept the Titanium because of "overall" better performance. It is definitely slower than the Corsair and OCZ in speed tests, but in everyday life, it is practically just as fast (if not faster), is much more convenient (no cap) and looks much more professional than the black and blue Corsair Flash Eraser.
Now, if I could only get a Sandisk 16 Gb Cruzer Titanium (notice I did not mention U3) for less than $100...
My 2 cents. Sorry for the long post. Hope this helps.
I kind of agree with this comment, but w/o a doubt, having used them both, the ATP is quite a bit faster than the Titanium in real world portable app use.
"I kept the Titanium because of "overall" better performance. It is definitely slower than the Corsair and OCZ in speed tests, but in everyday life, it is practically just as fast (if not faster), is much more convenient (no cap) and looks much more professional than the black and blue Corsair Flash Eraser."
I bought the 4 Gb Cruzer Titanium about a week ago and it is twice as slow in write speeds as the 2 Gb version...real world tests. HDSpeed gives about 8 Mb/s write average and about 10 Mb/s read average...
Anyone want to buy a non U3 4 Gb Sandisk Cruzer Titanium?
Newegg just had OCZ Rally2 4GB flash drive at $71.99 less $20 MIR. Currently Out of stock eta 1/22/07. This is a nice deal. Probably in a couple of months it'll be half that amount. Oh well.:) Not as fast as Geil David, but I like the price better for a 4GB Flash Drive.
I just received mine a couple of days ago. It's made well. I don't have a problem with the cap. Saw one place selling Geil David 2GB for $74, that is quite a price surcharge. My Kingston 1GB Data Traveler similar type cap and much slower.
Rally2 narrower and longer body casing. No plastic. Handles Apps well. I'm satisfied. Still have 1.5 GB left.
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It's a little old, but it might provide you with a place to start:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/flash2005.ars/1
Good hunting!
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This one is nice, I just tried it today: ATP Toughdrive
It was reasonably priced at www.provantage.com
I bought a 1 GB Lexar JumpDrive Lightning based largely on this review and have been happy with it's performance. I like the form factor of the Cruzer Titanium better but performance is more important to me. I'll have to look into one of the Geil DAViD for my next drive -- the dual channel sounds very nice.
Is there an app you guys use to test the speed on your usb drives?
One program is:HD Tach 3 It's free for non commercial use.
http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach
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Nice tool, here is what I got off of my 2 OCZ.
512Meg = 27Mb/s
2Gig = 28.3Mb/s
Random access: 0.8ms
Average read = 34.7 MB/s
Via HDTach, in descending order of access performance:
Quick Bench
2GB ATP Toughdrive
Random access: 0.8 ms, Average read = 34.7 MB/s, burst speed = 36.1 MB/s, cpu = 10%
2GB Sandisk Titanium
Random access: 1.0 ms, Average read = 18.0 MB/s, burst speed = 18.7 MB/s, cpu = 2%
2GB OCZ Rally2
Random access: 1.4 ms, Average read = 23.5 MB/s, burst speed = 26.2 MB/s, cpu = 10%
2GB Memorex Traveldrive
Random access: 2.1 ms, Average read = 25.8 MB/s, burst speed = 27.3 MB/s, cpu = 14%
2GB Corsair Flash Voyager
Random access: 37.4 ms, Average read = 18.2 MB/s, burst speed = 20.2 MB/s, cpu = 7%
Long Bench:
2GB ATP Toughdrive
Random access: 1.0 ms, Average read = 34.6 MB/s, burst speed = 35.2 MB/s, cpu = 1%
2GB Sandisk Titanium
Random access: 1.1 ms, Average read = 17.4 MB/s, burst speed = 18.1 MB/s, cpu = 11%
2GB OCZ Rally2
Random access: 1.4 ms, Average read = 23.4 MB/s, burst speed = 26.3 MB/s, cpu = 9%
2GB Memorex Traveldrive
Random access: 2.1 ms, Average read = 25.7 MB/s, burst speed = 27.0 MB/s, cpu = 9%
2GB Corsair Flash Voyager
Random access: 37.4 ms, Average read = 18.1 MB/s, burst speed = 20.2 MB/s, cpu = 5%
NOTES: I do not have a Geil David to test. To me, of the ones I tested, the ATP is the clear winner.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/384
mike366, was the Cruzer the U3 model or the older non-U3 model?
U3 model, with the U3 formatted off. I did not want to pay for U3 apps, once I saw how nice the Portable Apps are.
1 GB Lexar JumpDrive Lightning
Random access: 0.8ms, Average read = 20.9 MB/s, burst speed = 21.4 MB/s, cpu = 7%
(results were the same for both quick and long tests)
I got some poor results from my USB key using HD Tach. Not very ULTRA.
Sandisk Ultra® II SD™ Plus USB 1GB
8mb Random access: 1.4ms, Average read = 9.6 MB/s, burst speed 9.7MB/s,cpu = 3%
32mb Random access: 1.4ms, Average read = 9.6 MB/s, burst speed 9.8MB/s,cpu = 3%
The test was on par with manufacturer tests. Small size and the ability to use it in many devices has its perks though. Will be looking for a faster one for my portable apps.
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4GB Sandisk Cruzer Micro
Quick Bench
Random access: 1.4ms, Average read: 16.1MB/s, Burst speed: 17.9MB/s, CPU: 6%
Long Bench
Random access: 1.4ms, Average read: 15.7MB/s, Burst speed: 17.8MB/s, CPU: 8%
Using HD Tach 3.0
Memorex Mini Travel Drive 6.50 (U3 installed) (2.0 GB)
Random Access 0.6 ms, Avg Read 12.4 MB/s, Burst Read 12.7 MB/s, CPU 8%.
4GB ATP Tough Drive
Quick Bench
Random Access 1.1ms
CPU 0%
Average Read 29.8 MB/s
Burst 32.8MB/s
Long Bench
Random Access 1.1ms
CPU 0%
Average Read 30.4 MB/s
Burst 32.9MB/s
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ATP ToughDrive 1100 (2GB) [less than $36 US delivered from online merchant]
Quick Bench & Long Bench:
Random Access: 1.0 ms; CPU 16%; Avg. Read 27.4 MB/s; Burst 29.4 MB/s
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Using HD Tach I obtained the following results:
Quick Bench
Random Access 1.0ms
CPU 33% (+/- 2%)
Average Read 32.5MB/s
Burst 33.9MB/s
Long Bench
Random Access 0.8ms
CPU 14% (+/- 2%)
Average Read 32.6MB/s
Burst 33.9MB/s
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What are the speed deference between usb pen drive and a "small" external HD?
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Small, external hard disks are much faster than USB pen drives. The downside to the hard drives is that then tend to be bigger and more bulky (compared to pen drives) and they tend to be more fragile due to moving parts (platter spinning at 7200 rpm).
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One inch hard disks (slightly larger than USB keys) are much slower than "fast" USB keys, averaging only about 5-10 Mb/s in read/write. 1.8 inch hard disks are faster than most USB keys, but are on par with the fastest ones we are talking about here. 2.5 inch hard disks turning at 4,500 to 5,4000 RPM are probably double the write speed. 3.5 inch hard disks turning at 7,200 RPM easily turn at 35-40 Mb/s if not 60 Mb/s.
Then you start talking about interfaces: USB 1.1, USB 2.0, Firewire 400, Firewire 800 and now eSATA (in increasing order of real life speed).