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SPFreely
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Trouble with file associations in Windows 10

Has anyone noticed now that with the latest rolled out update to Windows 10 that file associations can no longer be changed to enable Portable apps (not just from PortableApps.com) to open images, video, audio, documents and any other file types as the default application. This used to be a piece of cake and the settings used to stick. Anyone else finding this a real issue of concern with using portable applications now?

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File Associations in Windows 10

As far as I'm aware, Windows 10 has never permitted file associations with applications that aren't installed. It's a part of the hardened security features specifically designed to prevent the possibility of malicious software taking control of a User's preferences and seems to be entirely sensible to me.

If you want to use software portably, it's a nonsense to attempt to use an operating system feature that requires specific software to be permanently installed.

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this trouble in last 2 month

this trouble in last 2 month only.

MS security by user injurity.

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There are other reasons to use portable applications.

If you want to use software portably, it's a nonsense to attempt to use an operating system feature that requires specific software to be permanently installed.

Some, like me, use portable software not because I actually need it to be literally portable, but because I see no sense in losing all of my settings and files every time I need to reinstall Windows or update certain software. Up until the latest Windows 10 update, it was negligibly easy to set up file associations when needed, but now it's only possible via excruciatingly time-consuming and frustrating editing of registry keys by hand or by using 3rd-party apps like FileTypesMan, which now makes my particular use case for portable software more burdensome than just installing things like normal.

I don't expect PortableApps.com to cater to people like me and wouldn't presume to even request a feature for creating file associations for those who might want it, but some of us just use portable software for a simpler life, not because we're moving from PC to PC. I accept that we're probably in the minority, but we do exist.

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I think this is a BIG issue.

I think this is a BIG issue.

Since Windows 10 Version 1803 file associations to portably installed programs are
not accepted. If you doubleclick on any jpg-, html-, wav- or mp3-file, W10 opens
those data-files with its proprietary programs and not those programs you want it to.

This is a throwback in user ergonomy. 90% of users I know use portable programs not for travelling from
one PC to another. They use it for maintaining a uncluttered registry and an easy handling of updates and
system restorages.

My question is: What are your solutions to this problem? Does "FileTypesMan" overcome this problem?

~~~ syna ~~~

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File Associations in Windows 10

If it's so important to you to be able to work around this Windows System Security feature then the only real solution is to use some software that maintains its own internal File Associations system separate from the Windows defaults; and which doesn't open (i.e. Hack) the system in a way which would allow malware or human intervention to maliciously alter user settings.

One example is the File Manager Multi Commander (available in a portable version but not from this site and not in PortableApps format). See http://multicommander.com/docs/filetypesetup for a description of its File Association system.

Please remember what you might see as a "BIG issue" is entirely irrelevant to the vast majority of Windows Users, who don't know anything about file associations and don't need to. They just want their system to be secure and to work as designed.

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multicommander

mjashby: Thank you for your advice of "Multicommander". I will try it.
At first look it seems to be the solution.

~~~ syna ~~~

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multicommander

Me again: Multicommander works excellent! I didn't know this software before -
it is a filebrowser like a swiss army knife - it can do everything!

Thanks again!

So - in a way this issue is solved. I couldn't force Windows 10 to use the
right file associations - it is quite impossible for mp3 or jpg! Only the
detour with multicommander is fruitful!

~~~ syna ~~~

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Works fine for me. Always has

Works fine for me. Always has.
Right Click > Open with > Choose another App > More Apps | Scroll to the bottom and choose 'Look for another app on this PC'
Make sure you check 'Always open x with this App'

Dosn't this work for you?

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File Associations in Windows 10

We're talking specifically about the ability to set/over-ride default application settings and what you are describing doesn't happen in Windows 10, which is specifically designed not to allow file associations to be set to applications that aren't installed 'correctly' according to Microsoft guidelines for security reasons; i.e. only user applications that are fully installed in the Program Files and Program Files (x86) Folders and can therefore be managed through Settings > Apps and Features are permitted to be set as system defaults, which is intended to prevent random unauthorised changes to existing system defaults by both malware and newly installed applications that love to make changes without asking for administrator permissions, but this also clearly has an impact on user intervention. It's a trade-off of increased system protection for the masses versus complete user flexibility for the experienced.

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Works with ALL portable apps in Windows 10

The technique I describe works for me. I get a browse window that allows me to navigate to ANY .exe (EVEN IF NOT INSTALLED).

I set the association to program namePortable.exe

Why are you going through windows settings? That is specifically designed not to allow associating apps that aren't installed?

Did you actually try what I posted?

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