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ntfs or fat32 for usb?

i searched before posting the the topic. but there is some different ideas on this. i'm using a 2gb Kingston U3 Usb, so do you advice ntfs or fat32 file system for the best performance? i'm using xp ( don't neet to 95/ 98 / anymore )

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Well...

I use fat32, but I'd think maybe NTFS is a better call, I dunno though.

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It depends

do you need to access comps with Linux/Mac/BSD and so on on it?
Do you wanna risk the permissions feature of ntfs turning against you?

If yes to the 1st and(or) second question use FAT32.

But if you don't want the risk of huge files or apps growing into space hogs I suggest ntfs.

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thanks

my usb has come with the FAT system, firstly i changed i to FAT32. this process gave me nearly 300MB more space. and now i changed it to NTFS, this gave me nearly 200MB more space, too..

really interesting, it was 1.8 GB used space at FAT system and now it's just 1.5 GB. it looks nice for now Smile

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Wear and tear

NTFS does journaling and thus works the USB drive harder. If you're concerned about the life of the drive I don't recommend it.

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Just in case

some say that ntfs is harder to recover from if things get messed up.

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I'll give you some info, and

I'll give you some info, and you can decide. After all, you know what you need.

NTFS:
Features that FAT32 doesn't have include journaling and permissions. Journaling makes the filesystem more stable and less-error prone, and errors are easier to fix. Some utilities can easily repair even severe damage. Of course, journaling causes more writes and can be a bit slower, and allocates drive space for itself (about 8MB). POSIX-style and Windows permissions are preserved, but this can be a double-edged sword: you may lock yourself out! If you plan to use it portably and want to use NTFS, format the drive (after backing up your info, of course) to FAT32 (if it not already formatted FAT or FAT32 and use the convert utility (command-line) to format to NTFS like this:
convert /FS:NTFS /X /V /NoSecurity
/X forces Windows to unmount the drive, /V makes it verbose, and /NoSecurity makes it ignore permissions, but this is only guaranteed on Windows; Linux and OS X may preserve the permissions.

NTFS is recommended if you stick to Windows, and are worried about filesystem damage.

FAT32:
Pretty stable, but filesystem damage may force you to format. Severe damage will not likely be fixable. Permissions are never preserved on any system, since FAT32 does not have the capability to store the information. Very little space is allocated to the FAT itself, so you'll have a little more space. A limitation of FAT32 is that the file system itself cannot be bigger than 4GB, and no file can be bigger than 2GB. Of course, since your drive only has a capacity of 2GB, it's irrelevant in this case. Another thing to note, however, is the larger cluster size of FAT32. A cluster is the absolute smallest amount of space that can be used when writing a file. NTFS has a cluster size of 4KB, which means that a file with a size of 4KB or less will occupy 4KB of space on the disk. This is the difference between "size" and "size on disk". More info here: https://portableapps.com/node/2257

FAT32 is recommended if you want to guarantee access to your files, and the size limitations don't hamper you.

For a 2GB flash drive, I recommend FAT32.

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NTFS will wear down ..

NTFS will wear down your flash-drive faster
than FAT because it is a journalling file-system
and, as such, reads and writes to files much more often than other
file systems like FAT and FAT32.
This is because disk transactions are logged separately
on the disk as they occur.

So, unless you need the functions of NTFS, stick with FAT.

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N E V E R NTFS!!!!

if you format your dirve in ntfs, your comp will recognize it as a hard disk and you wont be able to eject it. if you manualy eject, it might work but with a 50/50 chance of total drive corruption. pluss it is just pointless cuz ntfs format's partitions take up more space so your esentialy hurting yourself in every way. i know this cuz i tried to fromat my drive in ntfs and now i have to compleatly and totaly format the entire thing. all it shows up as now is an 8 megabyte drive that wont format the entire drive if i try. i am currently getting istructions on how to compleatly overhaul the drive but sofar, no sucsess. again N E V E R NTFS ON REMOVEABLE MEDIA ! ! \(oo)/

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if you format your dirve in

if you format your dirve in ntfs, your comp will recognize it as a hard disk and you wont be able to eject it.
Absolutely untrue. In fact I used my flash drive (which was formatted with NTFS) to avoid using my exHD, which would be seen as a local drive. I tried to use my HD and since I didn't convert with /NoSecurity, I lost all write permissions, being logged on with guest privileges. When I used my flash drive, it showed up as removable and I was able to use it normally.

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NTFS, if...

Personally, I use a USB portable hard drive, instead of a flash drive. I chose NTFS since I use robocopy.exe to mirror all of my files to a backup site. When I started off, I used FAT32, but Robocopy was having trouble with date/time comparisons between my drive and the backup (which was NTFS). After I reformatted my portable to NTFS, I haven't had problems.

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Actually.....

FAT32 has a maximum Filesystem Size of 200GB, and a maximum File size of 4GB.

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well.

if it isnt a flash drive, then it would make sense to use ntfs, as long as you didnt switch it aroundd to much.

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I was thinking of FAT. FAT32

I was thinking of FAT. FAT32 actually has a max partition size of 2TiB.

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....

didnt know that.

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It depends on the cluster

It depends on the cluster size. 2TiB is an okay partition limit, but NTFS's journal and POSIX permission ability and FAT32's file size limit of 4GB is what made FAT32 almost obsolete.

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didnt know that.
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