hi professionals,
do you use a partition app or know one?
i tryied here search for this word, no app found.
the issue is to hopefully make system partition bigger.
i see seem to have quite few partitions.
perspectively need app, in middle time.
try to rescue first by cleaning.
maybe windows can clean or shrink also, as cleaner, setted middle dangerouse, no much help.
i was not sure which underforum best, let us talk short about possibly getting here an opensource app.
by such sensible system touching would be wide used opensource app quite have to.
maybe without the just found big livesystem GParted, instead a app?
million thanx!
EDIT
semi portable app by developer would be quite ok i think.
opensource high prio.
don't put me on cross, we need to get ...
i try my best for all, but of healt issues can't make you very happy.
have to manage all, instead of make all happy!
thanx for understanding and politeness!
let be all nice, helpfull and make the world great!
EDIT2
found only GParted. opensource, livesystem.
very big.
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gparted is really standard tool for partitioning. While some partitions can be changed during computer runs normally, some might be less stright forward.
When we speak of windows, there is a partitioning tool build in already, this will do most of the tasks.
not sure why you have : 'i see seem to have quite few partitions.'
Earlier, let say in the 90ties or so, I used to have many partitions too, believed that this is something nice.
Well this had sometimes a reason, I had w3.1 in two languages, then w95 and w98 and Linux on one hard drive.
But this is today just waist of space.
If you really need shift something, use widows partitioning tool.
If you want need something complex like preparing for some multi boot system, then you need Gparted. You have it on USB stick and do your partitioning. After all, this is not done so often.
and yes, there are some attempts around EASEUS Partition Master
But you know, complete partitioning needs to reboot the computer and needs certainly rights to do such modification.
So if the build in tool of windows is not enough for you, most other things will also not be.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
i want to avoid.
maybe you know how to put firefox portable in chains, make using less space.
i feel pushed to give system partition more space if don't find a way to make firefox portable stop useing huge and more and more space...
i don't want to get long, i posted allready on that.
hope you can find the thread.
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It is unfortunately not clear what you want do and what you want avoid etc.
If the task is on a windows computer to resize the partition, then you have to make one other partition smaller and then increase the other. Windows has a build in tool for this, no need for any other software.
But how small is the partition you are talking abt? I never had to bother about it so far, using firefox daily
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
avoid touching partitions as the possible space donor would be few further.
would not recommend to donor space over other partitions.
sorry, thought it was clear, as touching system dangerous.
i don't want to, but as you not found the other firefox support forum thread.
i need at least few gb free to function system properly, but firefox portable puts shit on it, some gb's.
it comes ins local and roaming directories and is from crashreports to default and used profiles.
i had to downsize some settings for space usage.
cache is 200m, but other some gb and seem to save the shit and propably using as ram also.
need propably set the space usage of firefox and maybe some in system.
maybe also not to save to much of unused tabs.
it goes to few free mb or firefox crash and partial system warnings, etc.
HOW TO SET IT?!
i appriciate any help!
no idea if you can find the thread or check in my account tracking, otherwise can see in the portable ff support forum...
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You stated first you want find some partition management sw, described lot of things, so I had the impression you want partitioning tool.
But if you just want less cache in your firefox, then simply reduce it.
And if you want clean all time to time without having to search all the relevant folders, then use some of the common tools like ccleaner or similar. You will find such tools here in portable format even.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
it seems like it has no limit for saving background tabs (maybe till system restart) and using limitless as ram, because cache seems not to be the problem. ccleaner in use.
i think i have to limit somehow the two pointed out settings in first sentence, but don't have any idea how and if anyway possible.
i would try to work on some partitions later, but this one is to far from the other and increasing system partition would propably not solve firefox problem, as seem to have no limit or extrem high limit for (temp) saving inactive tabs and use as ram.
hope to put this two settings in chains.
didn't found any setting for that, or what looks like it.
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Use Minimize Memory Setting
Launch Firefox, type the following in the address bar, and press Enter: about:memory.
Click the Minimize memory usage button from the Free memory section, and you'll see a notification when the memory minimization is completed.
you can check in web, you will find lot of instruction:
'Firefox currently offers automatic unloading of "low priority" tabs when system memory is low. You can see this by typing about:unloads. This feature can be toggled via browser.tabs.unloadOnLowMemory on the about:config page.'
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
could save my life, as ff and system otherwise not possible.
only not sure i understand the toolbox, it says something like press the button three times if i understand this crypto text right:
'send three heap-minimize notifications in a row'
is this a 3 time click?
and is it permanent or do i need to do it by each start or even during using from time to time?
thx
its confusing...
i set first the parameter to true, till resolve the confusion.
its set to true as default.
this may help:
browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground
browser.tabs.loadInBackground
one was not default true.
now only miss to not use disk as ram, if there and however its called!
it should manage with ram, at least if you want it.
it doesn't since ever.
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I am sorry, but I am not able to understand anything of text.
You just give text fragments about some toolbox and clicks, all without any meaning
If using portable firefox, simply close and open it and all is deleted.
That windows uses disk for temporary writing is normal and wanted. This is how windows is designed to work. There is nothing wrong with it. The size of the temporary storage can be adjusted, but I would not recommend to do so unless you have good knowledge of the operating system and all functions in it.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
the three click was meant in about:memory and there is 'minimize memory usage', mousover shows the mentioned text.
so i think i had to click 3 times at once.
i see i forgot to explain that, sorry.
i will try to let the last setting, which you advice to not change.
i will try to delete often the not needed files of firefox on c:
thx
i lost some important data because firefox has no session manager by default or as direct mozilla add-on, i think.
i hope i can remember the things and find them online.
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No, you don't have to click 3 times. With 1 Click Firefox itself sends three internal "signals" to the OS garbage collector, a magical internal OS program routine, that frees allocated memory, if not in use. Windows does that on its own constantly but the mechanism firefox uses, is to trigger the garbage collector instantly.
This technique may have some drawbacks, especially if you are on battery power or metered connection, as possibly more data/cash has to be reloaded, that the garbage collector dumped overzealously eventually.
ok, i will keep in mind.
can you automate it, maybe let it do it regurarlly.
do you know how to stop firefox using disc as ram?
hope i don't need to help firefox all the time.
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No, I don't know and don't bother.
The optimization and tweaking of windows' paging is as old as windows itself. I did not consider it worthful any time in the last twenty years. That is a relic from the past when discspace was sparse and slow. I even disabled paging about ten years ago when I got my first 16GB RAM, and found no advantage in workflow speed (but some possible incompatibilites).
So - I just let windows (or what other OS I use) do its job. It does it to my utmost satisfaction most of the time and I consider it not worth the hassle to optimize the last few permille...
do you know a good session manager, maybe even from mozilla itself. do they have one?
maybe with time setting, how often to update the file.
and maybe to save only a single window with its tabs.
i saw some that should be from mozilla but it was other developer, so maybe they droped it.
i lost some important things, have really to avoid that in future.
thx for any idea!
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The use of the hard drive for swap file, meaning temporary store contents of ram to drive is automatically done by windows. The size is set by windows automatically and all is operated in the background. The size allocated to it is mainly dependent on the size of the real ram. The system finds this out and sets the correct amount automatically.
You will find, that this is often set to be about same size as the ram or possibly abt double the size if the ram is small.
But as said, this is all done automatically by windows and you do not need to take care of it. It is build in already!
Yes, this can be overrun and set manually, but I would strictly not recommend to do this, as if all set wrong, your computer might not be able to work fluently on some tasks, or it might take long time to write something to the disk.
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How can I set the swap file in Windows 10 / 11? Increase the size, move, change: For all manual settings, go to System settings > Advanced system settings > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced > Virtual memory > Change.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
understand.
i seldomly get a system message that some file is setted to default or so as the setted space for i think use as ram and/or system backup or so is not enough.
but this was before i found the firefox trash on system partition and delted it.
i have to keep an eye on that, but it looks like whatever i delete and even if firefox has nothing saved to restore...
after a restart is each time only exact 1gb free on c:
its hard to find out whats the space problem as apps are not really on c:.
i dont think restorepoints are the problem. i will try space analysis again, but first look didnt got me any hints.
it was from begin clear that the free space will be enough on c: as quite everything is on other partitions, as the old idea was so.
it looks like there is a setting, that would not let more then 1gb free space after restart.
no chance to have cleared space stay free, even if not really a reason for space consumption. its bad magic.
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how much ram do you have really on your computer?
Because as I mentioned, the files are created automatically. In case you did manipulate the swap file size at any time, meaning setting to fix and not automatic, you might get such strange problems. But the required space is already allocated when you start the computer
1 GB on your C drive? With today windows systems this might not work. Simply delete what ever you do not need. You should keep at least some 10% of the drive free, otherwise software can not run correctly. Meaning transfer your data to some external storage, this can be some USB attached or NAS or there are plenty cloud storage places free and paid around.
You can use windirstat (av here portable) to check what is taking most space on your system and get rid of it.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
4gb ram, 60gb only for windows. almost no apps on it, as on other place, little settings of semi portable apps.
what mess could windows put on it?
hope i can show biggest files or sorted by size, not only the directories, in windirstat. very new to it.
if windirstat doesnt help then maybe i should look for max backuppoint space setting, and how is that setting called if you save to not restart each time? i restart quite often, but each time is not possible.
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you are running windows (w10 or 11) on minimum that is theoretically possible.
You have to first clean the drive c: by windows build in utility. By this you can also delete old files left after an update by windows.
You have to end up with some 10% of the drive being free, otherwise your system will not run. Regardless of what software you want run.
By the windows utility, you go and select 'system file' and select there what you want delete.
You might also use tools like ccleaner, but start with the winodws own tool first.
With windirstat you can see if there are any files you might have created and somehow 'forgot' them. The you can go and clean here as well.
I have two computers with 128 GB drive. Also here I have to take care often, clean residuals from updates and so on. Otherwise the machine simply stops working, is trying to swap ram to drive and can not as there is no space. Then cleaning must take place.
Your problems have nothing to do with firefox or any other app, it is simply that your drive is too full.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
understand.
i will try to get the way you say more free space.
after get rid of 2gb of firefox trash, will try to check if there are possibly endless windows restore points, as i dont remember to have take look on it. i'm not sure if the from time to time showed warning after restart said something like:
a setting by 973mb cant create xy. i think it was partially for system restore or space if you save session and use space as ram.
two of this three things use propably same space contingent. no idea how to get to this settings. will see if i can formulate a proper websearch. i didnt use any of this settings since ever. i get idea for a short book.
i hope all this will help.
i have often few ff windows with few tabs so the mentioned settings will also help.
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right click on the c: drive, properties
on the right side next to the ring there is this delete button
here you can delete garbage and the do it again and choose system data
with this you can delete all this at once
when windows starts it will need to create pagefile.sys, hiberfile.sys, swpfile.sys
If it can not, your system will not run very useful.
is this w10?
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
ok
i will also check mentioned restore points, who knows how much could be.
i got an idea of old times, called prefetch. maybe i will not use, if other things not enough.
i hoped win12 would not be so far, to hopefully get a cheap office hardware.
or i jump to a smartphone, if find a cheap data privacy respecting, with proper updates. new updates law makes hope.
one could use windows phone on monitor as pc. no idea if this is standard possible for all phones.
but on this one i colect thoughts/tips in seperate thread so let not mix here.
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this is something I remember from old times
you can not find them on current windows system
what windows do you have really?
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
i found out 6gb are used as ram.
maybe less would be ok.
i will have to shrink it to an acceptable size.
no idea if the windows installer directory could be cleaned, if this are not needed installer or installed needed things.
not really see any other possible to delete.
i deleted everything, would say. some preinstalled games were there.
what setting for space as ram and system restorepoints do you recommend?
I digged allready for useless files, see no more potential.
i didnt use admin things since ever so thought its still a thing and had no idea why windows is so huge, as there shouldnt really be any apps on c. you can use it in every win, only disabled, as by me actually. thought it was on. i would rather make it on.
ccleaner finds not really a thing by moderate settings, i dont want to go to high risk settings, better try first windirstat.
the system disc cleaner didnt find much, i will further try to find something with windirstat.
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It is very difficult to read your posts - not to mention to help you. You produce a huge amount of superflous text mass, ask a heap of incoherent questions embedded in erratic text fragments, don't give infos that someone asks for to help, jump from one problem to another in nearly every thread, edit every single post over and over etc...
Please: Write your questions or information down in an external text editor, leave them there, read them again until you know what you really want to ask, edit them externally and when you are shure that you have gathered all information and your post is understandable, post it. Otherwise, only the boldest might answer your questions.
Btw. - most of your questions might better be answered elsewhere. There are much more general forums that covered all of your questions ad nauseam. Don't get me wrong, even if this forum is a little bit deserted, the remaining people are very helpful. It is just very exhausting to catch up with your ideas.
i think i could set use disc as ram lower. maybe try with 2gb, as have gpu or how you say in english?
i will propably need to find a few more things to delete. found installer directory on win, think if i can delete.
and to shrink use space as ram from 6gb.
maybe to set or adjust file size for saved things before restart.
think thats all.
what do you think?
EDIT
i found out you can also compress drive to save space.
i think its worth a try too.
is it dangerouse on system drive c:?
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Open windows Explorer
right click on the c:
select properties
select clean
system files
then select all and OK
your system will be cleaned.
as far as restore points, well if you did not manually enable this feature, then it is disabled by defoult
I hope this is the end of the story now and you will carry all as advised or buy a book describing windows elementar use.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
yeah i checked it, it has quite nothing to delete, besides files in errorreportque.
i will then need to shrink the mentioned setting, what should be ok, i think, as have gpu.
i have a ebook but seem it needs 1000p, otherwise they still miss some essential things in a admin book.
nothing for ungood.
thx
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