Safari is now available for pc! It is the best browser simply because it is made by Apple. Now it is available for PC It could be made into a portable app. There shouldn't be a problem about it being a beta. The only problem i can think of is John H persuading Apple to let him make it portable and distribute it (because copyright and such). Post suggestions here
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This site is about Open Source software, which Safari is not. Perhaps someone could mke an open Source launcher, if they were interested.
I find it curious that you rate Safari that highly:
- My daughter uses a Mac and doesn't like Safari
- I tried the second Windows version on WinXP Home and removed it when it couldn't open a simple html desktop file I have no problems with from IE, Firefox, or Opera.
Took a while to find it... Safari 5.1.1 FREE
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I already requested it but since it is in fact not Open Source, it won't be converted here. I also am suspect of your claims that it is the best. I am a die hard Mac Fan Boy and even I won't claim that Safari is the best browser. IMHO it has the best look to it but actual use shows otherwise.
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I think it's a good place for discussion
I have a bit different opinion - it's a useless crap, nowhere better than IE6.
It's still a beta, many things may change, I still believe that Apple will not release something so poor. (But after the latest presentation of the Leopard's best feature - a new desktop, I have doubts).
The main thing I don't like about it is lack of features. What does it have? Popup blocker? Java and flash plugins? lol.
It also lacks configurability. In fact there are no features that could be configurable but they could at least allow some interface customization.
"The fastest browser in the world". Only 500 mhz and 256 MB needed. Possibly they claim this because of a super sophisticated precashing, connection management or so, I didn't read carefully, but I know one thing - it doesn't load pages faster than FF does.
The status bar is hard to read. Text selection looks nice, but doesn't work well with light blue letters (anybody who tried it knows what I'm talking about...). I'll say again - it may change in the final release. Let's hope so.
These are impressions from a 3 minute test. Then I uninstalled it. 100 MB together with QuickTime (BTW it wasn't clearly written during installation that I'll have to perform 2 unstallations, it should be one process). I won't return to it before the final and I don't think I'll start it then.
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Asimov
firstly,i like simple things that are easy to use and secondly NOTHING is worse than microsoft and whoever says microsoft is good should try out a mac and 99% of the time they will change their mind
First, we are not knocking the power of Mac. Mac is (for its uses) the greatest environment produced. It is not the best system or OS in the world by far. For what it does though as it is intended to do, it is unrivaled.
Second, FF is easy and simple with no fuss no muss. It works right out of the install and requires no configuration to work with 90% of websites out there. Safari gives you X and that is it. They both are usable out of the install and require no configs. They both are very simple and elegant in their own design and layout. However, FF wins as it can be added upon and is faster than Safari in general browsing. I use both and I will stay with FF for its customization and its faster surfing.
Thirdly, I am a user of both M$ and Mac. I own many macs ranging from Quadra840A/V's through a Power Mac 9600 to a G3 500MHz. Ranging in OS from 7.5.3 through OSX. However, I will still stick with a Winblows OS for now as it is better at everything that I need it to do.
Saying that people need to buy a Mac and that using Winblows is for window lickers is nothing but spouting childish arguements. I am not calling you childish, just your arguement that everyone would switch to a Mac if they used one. When it comes to certain things there is nothing worse than something else. For graphics creation nothing beats a Mac. For gaming, nothing beats a PC. For enterprise level computing, nothing beats Linux. The list goes on and on ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.
Sum up, Safari is a good looking browser and that is all it is at this time. Who knows if Apple will make it better or if it will just be a better looking IE with no modifications allowed.
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It seems that I'm in this 1%.
They produce great hardware, but MacOS...
- there's far too little software for it
- form over function (which doesn't mean that it doesn't have features, just they often are not too comfortable - like dock)
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Asimov
Don't know what your talking about but Firefox is the fastest. That is it no discussion about it.
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iLike Macs, iPwn, However you put it... Apple is better ^_^
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...it is indeed the best *non-Opera* browser around...
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This browser is far away from beeing the bst.
It`s proprietary. Because of some stupid license isusses it can`t be made portable. Apple is not listening to user feedback and the community can not contribute because it`s Closed Source.
The browser looks not bad, starts fast, but functions... Kinda buggy and no support for addons. I don`t see a reason to use it.
Same with QuickTime. It`s just proprietary shit. Man, it`s a media player, if I install it it`s messing around with my hole system. It puts itself in systray and autostart, needs install, not portable and eat`s a lot of recources. You can`t even watch fullscreeen, you would need buy the pro version. Apple is even fighing against QuickTime alternative (which is just the full screen video player without overhead) with their license rights.
For mac... If I need an alternative to microsoft windows I can use linux or bsd. It`s allready better then mac. Why the hell should I go away from proprietary windows and change to proprietary mac os. That would be stupid. To powerfull commercials just add burden to the endusers (genius adventage check, messing with licenses).
Firefox is the best. It`s Open Source, no stupid license stop us from using it as portable version and it has also many usefull addons so everybody can tweak the browser to it`s own need.
Safari won't even work under Wine!
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As all of ya should know Microsoft is the Evil Empire, and Windows (a.k.a. Winblows or Windoze) is their greatest general, so please make a difference and install Linux or Free BSD on yer Windows comp.
how can i down load this
Safari or Portable Safari?
-The full version of windows Safari is on the apple website, just do a little searching on google for it.
-Portable Safari will never exist from this site. Perhaps Apple will make it someday, but not today.
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he sounds like such a fanboy.
Please Make TiLP Portable
I wont even read the replies all I have to say is that the title should have said "Portable Safari (The WORST browser in the world)"
Get Firefox its better and safer or even opera thats just as good if not better in some aspects for some users
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Oh, hell.....
1)Safari is Apple's toy. They've got lawyers & all that stuff which the open source community, for the most part, lacks. It's not worth touching.
2)Back in the day when I was supporting that stuff, I had a terminal on which I ran a)Safari b)Camino c)Firefox d)Mozilla on a Mac. Safari & (to a lesser extent) Camino both suffered from memory caching problems which I never really experienced with Firefox (and yes, I was actually running all four borwsers at once to access different sites simultaniously). That said, I don't concur with your claim.
3)Apple does have (more or less) their own development page. You'd be better off posting your question there.
Safari is the best browser in the world like TenaciousD is the greatest band in the world. Oh wait, the latter could be true...unlike the former.
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nice!
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aim is "nycjv321" (minus quotes)
This site is about Open Source software, which Safari is not. Perhaps someone could mke an open Source launcher, if they were interested.
I find it curious that you rate Safari that highly:
- My daughter uses a Mac and doesn't like Safari
- I tried the second Windows version on WinXP Home and removed it when it couldn't open a simple html desktop file I have no problems with from IE, Firefox, or Opera.
"- I tried the second Windows version on WinXP Home and removed it when it couldn't open a simple html desktop file I have no problems with from IE, Firefox, or Opera."
Same here. I hate safari.
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bollocks i'd allready tried to download the damned thing twice & the installer just won't work on winxp, in the end i'd just deleted it & intalled lolifox instead i mean it's stable no viruses nor any bloat, and 'sides is there any chance of a protable version of lolifox anyway.
Apple Safari Portable Successfully Created
Go to My Portable Apps Directory or Download Directly to test it out.
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I'm a Software Developer trained by Hewlett Packard and work for the United States Army to date. Give me any app and I can make it portable for anyone here legally using a Software Development Enterprise License. Just ask or register on my website and send a message to Brian aka Stu with the subject Portable App Creation. Don't ask. I can get any license required to make any app.
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Is the second half of this Don't Tell?
LOL
I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.
No. I know a lot of people including a few people who are in the high ranks with Apple. My Apple Safari Portable package is legal and is not copyright infringement. Got legal permission from the copyright holders. If there is a way to get an app portable using their licenses i'll find it.
Email me if you would like to test it out. My email is brianstoinski19 yahoo <.dot.> com or brian.stoinski us.army <.dot.> mil
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Well, I was kind of making a joke - you are in the military, you should be familiar with the Don't Ask/Don't Tell laws.
But, since you've said it's OK to tell, is it OK if I forward your message and email to the folks here:
http://www.apple.com/legal/contacts.html
?
Just to make sure.
I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.
Yes, I am familiar with the Don't Ask/Don't Tell laws. If you were to forward my message to the folks at Apple then basically you would be breaking the laws. The app is registered under Apple's name. I am only currently testing it. I am still in the process of setting it up for being registered as legit under the copyright bylaws.
...becoming low profile suddenly?
you know brianstoinski18, there were numerous people in the forum here before claimimg to have all portable and legal because they have big license from someone, so dont be surprised if they flame you little bit, the guys here have some experience with members like you, so take it easy
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
Oh, don't worry about me breaking the law - I wouldn't DREAM of taking credit for your work. I'd make sure that my e-mail would clearly state that this was YOUR offer, and I was just passing it along.
Of course, if you are "in the process of setting it up for being registered as legit under the copyright bylaws", then you must be working with Apple, so they should already know about you, nah?
I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.
maybe the webkit engine is good,
but the licence of safari SUCKS
its definively NOT the best browser!
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I know Chromium/Iron use WebKit, but if people want the Safari look and feel about a vanilla WebKit portable?
Webkit is only the HTML engine, the interface (aka GUI) still needs to be created by the vendor. The current WebKit installer only patches Safari's Webkit engine. So most stuff is still Safari underneath.
Arora and Midori use Webkit too tough. I do like more Midori, but Arora seems to be the only one that is Windows compatible currently. They are both OSS, so they can be modified, and, consequently, portabilized.
midori works on windows, but there is no binary to download (i didnt find).
u have to build it against gtk2
A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
saying a browser is the best ONLY because it's made by Apple, would be saying that Apple makes amazing products that no matter how crappy it is, it is better because it says Apple. I put Safari on my PC and crap, it sucked. Safari is good if you have a Mac. If you're too cheap to buy a mac, then you're out of luck. I likes Safari because of the bookmarks toolbar. but then I installed Firefox which is amazing. More secure, more customizable, and awesome.
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Thats the spirit!
Dude I love macs.... and I think Safari is CRAP......
Thanks,
Bensawsome
iLike Macs, iPwn, However you put it... Apple is better ^_^
"Claiming that your operating system is the best in the world because more people use it is like saying McDonalds makes the best food in the world..."
Iron and Chromium are browsers that uses the same webkit. Maybe even better. OSS.
There is a great difference in these two.
Mac: Is a peaceful, easy to use OS. And it is seriously sleek, no question.
It is also excellent in the Arts of well Art. It is very comfortable to use and apple makes things extremely easy for the users.
Opinion: 4/10
PC: It is a Power House and is more used to create programs, even ones for the mac. It also features many more programs and is fairly simplictic. VERY customizable! (Mac theme for windows But No Windows Theme For Mac...My Point.) 80%-90% Of the market too. A Whole Lot Better At Gaming, NO QUESTION WHAT SO EVER! Heck if all you use a mac for is the dock than you didn't know that you can get software that mimics the dock such as rocket dock. (for free) but you got to pay for a taskbar for mac.
So ya
Opinion: 9/10 (there is no perfect OS)
ok time for browsers:
Safari:
Sleek: 8/10
Simplicity: 10/10
Extra Features: 3/10
Speed: 9/10
Acid3 Test: 100/100
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Mozilla Firefox:
Sleek, Look: 10/10 (Due To Huge Amount Of Themes)
Simplicity: 10/10 (Due To Huge Amount Of Addons)
Extra Features: 10/10 (Due To Huge Amount Of Addons)
Speed: 10/10
Acid3 Test: 71/100
This was not a Mac vs PC thread, and although I do think Firefox is better than Safari for Windows (never tried a Mac a little more than the ones displaying on stores
), there are people that may need to use Safari and/or similar for some reason (ex: me for webdesign 
). Also, the latest Safari is actually faster than Firefox (but the beta testing version of Safari and Firefox are on an equal speed).
That is why I advice some other apps that are OpenSource and have similar features of Safari (Firefox is already portable and can be made to look like Safari, Google Chrome, Arora, and Midori use the same engine as Safari for displaying webpages).
As for OSes, Windows isn't the only on the world. I do like more of Linux (its theming engine doesn't need to be h4x0r3d to work with 3rd party themes, and its free (most of the times) and OSS (all the time)). It is a matter of personal taste, so I can't say that what I like you will like, or another guy will like, so I don't think we should talk a lot about system X vs system Y in these forums.
I do hope that Arora Portable (available on the beta testing forums) moves on and is made an official app.
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IANAL, I don't think a portable version of Safari will be legal. There are alternatives though, Chromium and Arora use WebKit just like Safari.
It is the best browser simply because it is made by Apple.
No, it's the best browser because it's based off KHTML, which was made by the KDE, the best desktop evah.
reikia
I think "reikia" means need or must afaik in that case mate sorry no can do as you can see there are alternatives in this node you can try out
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
IT'S NOT OSS SO NO!
also a better quick time alrern is VLC media player or winamp
vlc woks great for meh
look flash hacker, I understand your willingness to contribute but please do not use caps please it looks like you are yelling.
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
user ones word belongs fast browser. therefore i want to try
when it comes to speed i love firefox, but chrome loads pages the fastest out of opera/ff/safari/ie
To make it "portable" just copy from the local disk , from the File C://Program files/Safari, to the folder
PortableApps from your USB and it's done.
Remember than you need to have safari installed on your computer.
that isn't truely portable as it doesn't account for registry settings, file settings on host computers, so you would loose stuff like history etc. Thats not portable mate sorry to put it bluntly
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
Is Safari considered Freeware? The site now carries Portable Freeware. If so what could entice Apple to create a .PAF release and post it here?
I really didn't like Google Chrome nor Safari at all in the early days. They both were just way too plain for my taste. Not so today. Would love testing a portable developmental nightly build of Safari.
The license for Safari would not permit it, nor is it ever likely to.
Apple has no interest in sharing or giving back to the community. They prefer to keep things nice n tight n proprietary (much in the same way that people berate Microsoft for doing).
One word: NO. Safari is like the IE of Mac OS X, and besides we got Firefox, Google Chrome, and Seamonkey, and those can run circles around that browser. Anyways what makes it so special? I think it should stay at Mac OS X where it *belongs*.
EDIT: please do not bump posts....
I'm tired of people living in their fantasy world when the clock is ticking away, and when they are unable to see reality for what it is.
I found this link:
[Link removed; as mentioned above this is illegal - mod Chris]
Have anybody tried?
So sad to see so much spite and vitriol being displayed over yet another Mac vs PC argument. You pays your money and takes your choice - if you can afford it. A Mac would cost me two or three times the price of a PC to do what I want; I have used Macs, back in 68k and G3 days up to MacOs 9, and enjoyed using them, but my present batch of PCs run XP, Vista and 7 (and only one was bought new, the laptop on which I'm writing this, the others were acquired as disposals from various sources - legitimately - when a company or a friend was upgrading) take care of my needs adequately, especially as most run Linux as well.
I digress.
Which browser is best is very much a matter of opinion. IE, IME, is slow, insecure and crash-prone. Firefox is fairly stable, seems secure and rapid compared to IE. Chrome is quick but a little too bare for my liking - and I'm a little wary about Google wanting to be my OS as well. Opera I used to use up to v4 on the Macs and never got around to using on the PC; I've now installed 11 to try it. I've tried Safari on the PC and quite honestly, I wasn't over impressed; it's OK, reasonably quick but nothing outstanding, fairly capable in that it didn't choke on anything, but it wasn't sufficiently better than Firefox to warrant replacing it.
Horses for courses; it may well be the best browser ever written in your opinion - many said that about Netscape - but that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone, and you should not be trying to force your opinion on everyone else. Suggest it, by all means, but allow us all to form our own opinions.
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This is where the installer was found, I just downloaded and noticed the PAF format was created for the PortableApp environment. [links to illegal software removed by mod JTH. Repackaging or modifying Safari and redistributing is illegal. Apple has not made a portable version nor given anyone permission to.]
I'll keep testing it out the file shows to be at 23.7MB. Based on another search, a portable was created by Apple as a purchase for MAC users. This maybe derived from that sourcecode from webkit or a newer compilation.
To the entire PA team and readers: I'm sorry for posting the link. I thought I stumbled across something that was created by Apple. I assumed since there was a portable originally created for MAC users it was one in the same. I will make no further reference to the app in question until it's fully supported by the vendor. Once again, sorry for the misunderstanding.
If you find a 'portable Safari' for Mac, it's similarly illegal.
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John, to prevent further trouble.. It maybe suggested to close down this section of the forum to prevent additional comments from rolling. If not it's ok. Thank you for keeping us in check.
The original poster said "Portable Safari (The best browser in the world)"
Not any more - there was a competition recently in the USA to crack browsers & this was the first to go down in about 5 minutes - even IE lasted longer!
also there is now a problem with malware on linux based routers that opens a IRC backdoor to an IRC botnet which is then used to bruteforce passwords.
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20042195-83.html
I can make Firefox for Mac portable by changing the profile location. It might be possible to use the same method on Safari. Some thing would be different, so I'm not exactly sure what you would have to change, assuming its possible at all. It would also not be downloadable. You would have to manually change it because of the difference in file path. Again, I'm not even sure that it's possible to change the profile location.
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