especially on defragmenting system partition.
i hope for qualified answers with explanation.
i think smart defrag portable is great and possibly best solution for c:,as can be run from other partition and doesnt disturbs itselfs work.
i need to get c: fit, as didnt defrag for ages, i think.
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difference on efficience and quality on portable app against win defrag
November 28, 2025 - 3:24pm
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difference on efficience and quality on portable app against win defrag
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As long as your system drive is a small and slow hdd with nearly no space left, defragmentation may increase the overall performance.
Any newer copmuter should be using a ssd for system drive. They don't need to be defragmentated because access speed is so fast you don't feel any difference. Defragmentation of a ssd is useless and shortens its lifespan if done regularily.
On a fast large hdd with enough free space left, defragmentation does make no real difference anymore with any modern os (after windows 3.11/DOS) with a modern filesystem, because data is written and read all the time even from the os itself (swapping, temp files and so on). Files automatically get fragmentated that way, that's the way file access on windows works. If empty space is getting sparse and your hdd is slow, a defragmentation of the empty space alone may help and is way faster than a complete defragmentation process.
yeah, its low free space hdd, so i need to defrag.
i see now a affordable laptop has ssd, so the next one will.
i will defrag if smartdefrag11portable is ready, its now half a year, so should be ready soon, i hope much.
thx
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You can use any defrag tool you like, as long as it supports free space defragmentation. Defraggler does the job, smart defrag, too. No need to wait for the next version, this technique is so old that there will be not enhancement for hdd defragmentation.
If you hdd is slow and is running low on space, a complete defragmatation may be usefull but takes a lot of time - do it overnight.
And keep your hands off optimization, it produces a lot of cluster moving (= drive wear) with no noticable effect.
current os like w10 and w11 do not need any defrag SW , defrag is done automatically all the time on the hd in background
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
I know. Last time, I used any defrag software was on windows xp. And that was only to group free space.
Btw. that was the last time I used anything other than defender as primary antivirus software .
i will try to delete and move something but sys and apps seem to shrink it each time with save win actual session, temp, cache or whatever.
i will see if can clean few gb on holidays or weekend.
or maybe get an idea how to limit space for saving actual session, i think there were some files about 3gb each.
thx
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your windows needs to setup and maintain some swap space. This is dynamically changing, but it is possible to set certain limits to it. This will however definitely slow down the system
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
then i will focus on cleaning and maybe shrink some apps space consumption.
good tips.
thx
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you are here on portable apps, so put them on an usb drive
(that's what they are for after all)
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
i would rather put other things on it, but i wait till the extern ssd 1-2gb gets cheaper and clear their heat bugs.
i think a thin ssd pen drive would be best, but i saw only big ones like a hdd drive.
i better search first for such a 4 ssd system like nas.
it would backup it also, but i dont know the search name and no german, DACH or japanese.
search is maybe 'ssd nas' and names like sony, toshiba or so.
UPDATE i read that its not usefull ssd on lan, but i would use usb. i will check if this makes sense. other issue are the costs. but ssd shouldnt get broke if i acidentaly kick it from the table, so thats great advantage.
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other interessting idea is to sync few ssd by a cable or frame.
i saw a name for it, as i thaught i was first with this idea.
UPDATE its called JBOD, but not sure if need win server to work, as someone suggested.
i will need to look what was the name of it, so one can buy later further pen drives and take one with you and sync it at home.
nice idea.
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OK, just a few basics, no need to dig too deep.
Your system drive (os) has to be as fast as possible, preferably a ssd nowadays. Way more robust and failsafe thas hdds (but not perfect, you still need periodic backups). Size has to be big enough for the os and you main apps (and enough space for some libraries depending on the software you use).
So, if your computer is not too old, a new ssd system drive instead of a hdd would really speed up things. More than most other hardware upgrades for comparable low costs.
Data can easily be stored on a second drive, as large as needed. Does not need to be too fast. Speed only matters here, if you do a lot of database work or rendering or gaming etc, but is no real game changer. This can be a hdd if ou are on a budget or need lots of TB where ssds still are simply too expensive.
If you use a notebook instead of a desktop computer, you mostly have to use external drives as only the larger desktop substitutes offer enough slots for a second drive. That is more hassle because have to decide, what data you need on a dily basis or what you only need temporarily.
as i now know JBOD is not really good for easy backup/sync, as its not redundant.
that was not really my idea, i wanted a synced group of ssd pen drives.
not sure one can do and work it easy and simply, a comfy solution, with just take one on the go and sync when you are back.
it would be cheap and easy, otherwise you pay the same extra for nas frame, as you pay for four small ssd each 1tb.
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please do not mix things
JBOD is kind of extending storage of a system, but this has nothing to do with placing some of your data on an external drive.
JBOD is a set up, the disks need to work together as data is written continuously, starting disk1 when this is full it writes to disk2 etc. This needs to be consistent this way, otherwise when one disk is removed, data may be lost. So you can not make a JBOD with some pen drives and then remove them.
JBOD is sometimes still used in small servers or in some temporary storage of large amount of data.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
i need to examine why free space on C: changes between 300mb, 990mb and 2,71gb without recognizable reason or restart.
Suspicions...
blowing up win session or saving actual session?
cache,cookies+co?
any other idea?
thx
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