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José Pedro Arvela
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2 ideas for PAM, 2 ideas for forum (2 already left out, 1 in use!!!)

I have four ideas. Two of them are related to the development of the PortableApps.com Menu; and the other are relative to the forum (1 ideas forgotten, 1 in a loooooooooong time, 1 pending answer):

First, to the PortableApps Menu: resuming, is a schedule plan and support for modifying the menu in colour, font (colour, size), size, etc...

I would like a schedule plan for PAM, with exact dates. I want the new menu desperately and I would be more calm if I knew the exact dates, either for the next release, either for the 2 years away release.
No way, changed ideas, I do not want this to look like M$!!!

Then, I would like to have more options when customising the Menu. With some themes, there are problems with the fonts, because these are hard to see when having some themes. My idea is some default theme fonts, colours, etc (these would be the default fonts, colour, etc when using a theme for the first try); and the custom fonts, colours, etc (these would be stored in a file like the Firefox UserChrome.css, but in a .ini format).

 
Now, about the forums: resuming, to protect e-mails via javascript, and to improve the "pre" tags.

A lot of people writes unprotected e-mails on the forums, so, the solution is to automatically protect the e-mails with that javascript code that John made, automatically (like websites become automatically functional links).
Forget, any one who posts a e-mail here can also post it on any other forum and probably did it.

Then, the "pre" tag may be very useful, but it has a problem: it stretches the page according to the text, and that may be problematic; so, my idea is to change the pre tags to create a text box, that has a horizontal scroll bar when necessary.
The "pre" tag is correctly shaped now. Yes!!!

Well, these are my ideas.

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When it's done

The answer is always: when it's done. If you're looking for exact dates, you're unfamiliar with community-based open source. Commercial apps pick exact dates, miss them, and then rush to release leaving lots of bugs in (see: Microsoft). I'm not a fan of that.

If you don't know enough not to post an email address in the clear, you've no doubt posted it in many, many places besides here. Posting email addresses in a forum is dumb.

PRE is for code and code alone and it's up to the poster to ensure it isn't too wide. I may write a CSS hack for it eventually.

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You're right, but

I do NOT want this to look like M$. Well seen. That CSS may be useful.

And what about customizing PAMs fonts, colours, etc...?
 
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Money back

John, I suggest you give this man his money back. He obviously is not satisfied with the service he is receiving around here. I think you should give him a full refund.

Seriously though, good analogy on Commercial vs Open Source development.

1 vote for a hack to adjust the PRE formating.

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Yes

I want my money back!!! All the 0€ you own me, plus techs support in value of 0€. If you don't pay me I'll put you in court Wink

I would like to have the hack available, see some pages that use the pre tag, they're very hard to read sometimes.
 
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It is technically the author's responsibility to do it. We (i.e. me) sometimes edit the posts to fix add line breaks, but it should technically stay the same as the author wanted it to.
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means "preformatted" and that's the way it goes. It's especially needed for things like posting java.exe commandlines where everything needs to be on one line with the spacing perfect for them to work.

If you could make the tag create an IFRAME with a horizontal scroll bar in a post, that would be cool by me. Forum posts would be narrower, and I could still copy/paste the code from the forum so it would work right.

Example: http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=84160

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Nope

Not IFrames, overflows. You simply add overflow:auto; into the pre definition for the pre tags. I think you can also use display:overflow;. I'll try both out later using Firebug to see how well it works.

Edit: Turns out you also need a width property to mkae it work. 60% seems OK.
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Already Done

Actually, it's already done. I had it done for Firefox a while back. But it took me 3 times as long to get something to work right in IE because IE is so broken.

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Typical

IE is always so broken. Smile

I only saw a note about having overflow:visible with IE on Quirks Mode, so I didn't realise that there was one.

Edit: Just realised this site uses a table based layout. WHY? Sad
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Had to

Simple. Had to.

Unless I had another two weeks to devote to finding a solution that worked across all browsers. *NONE* of the popular CSS-based column layouts would. They all broke with the forums. Same reason the CSS doesn't validate. It can't. Not if I want to maintain compatibility with IE5/6.

I've always been an advocate for standards and CSS-based sites (look at johnhaller.com), but, in the real world, if it's a choice between standards and "having the damn thing actually work", I choose the latter.

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I see

I totally agree with having it "actually work", so I see where you're coming from. Still would have thought you'd be able to make some sort of magical hack/fix for IE, being the king you are Blum
At least Microsoft gave us conditional comments Smile

Oh, and your own site isn't a very good example, it's pretty lame Blum
I like the home page title though. I was always a sucker for those lolcats Smile

Edit: The new pre styling looks pretty good, but I prefer the white background and dashed outline. Also, this comment has an unneeded scrollbar.
Just as a test:

This is some code that used to break the layout of the page, but doesn't any more due to the overflow:auto property on the pre tag

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In Progress

I'm still playing with it. I actually prefer the white background. But the dashes don't seem to fit with a scroll bar... it should be solid. So, I'm gonna try white background and a gray border.

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Agreed

Just took a look with the dashes and the scrollbar using Firebug and it doesn't look as good. But the white background would make it more readable.
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Already Done

I did it earlier today. You probably just need to refresh to be sure the CSS reloads.

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Awsome

It looks great John.

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lepercauns

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that's your best word yet Patrick!!!

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Yea,

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Cool

Looks good. Good ol' Ctrl-F5 Smile
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I am careful with that...

I am careful with that...

...the problem are the ones who don't on the comments.
 
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Yes!!!

The bug was corrected!!! It is great. I think it is good as it goes with the style of the site.
 
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