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OpenOffice.org Portable 2.3.0 Development Test 2

Hallo @all,
in the last weeks I work hard in order to get a new Installer for OpenOffice.org Portable with support for optional components.

The result (on the base of Johns last FF Installer with the new directory structure an linked images in the help.html) You'll find it now here:
OpenOffice_Portable_2.3.0_TR_2

* Multilingual (en-US, en-GB, de, fr, nl)
* en-us, de (Packages for en-GB, fr an nl comming soon if You want)
* fr langpack (all other langpacks (en-US, en-GB, de, nl) coming soon too if You want).

All packages comes with this components as options:
-python
-additional dics and templates (in other lang than the native lang)
-help
-images (Iconsets for other designs than standard like Crystal, Industrial etc)

In the Multilang version there are options for installing the langpacks for en-US, en-GB, de, fr and nl.

All Installers are able to remove every optional component, simply run in again and unckeck the not wanted options (but check the wanted options again, cause the installer will remove every unchecked option). So You can use it as update or for emergency repair of existing installations.

The lang-packs check for the installed version, if in the target directory no or a wrong version of OOoP it will not be installed.

So we have a very smart and flexible solution Smile

The best of all is, that all the different packages was built using the same installer and only one repostory for all. This makes it very easy to add more languages for support in the future.

Please give it a chance an have a look on it.

I don't know John's plans for OOo Portable, but perhaps he like it too an it could be the upcoming new version.

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Details:
034eebb93102d2ed65b48f40c93f4a47 OpenOffice_Portable_2.3.0_multi_TR_2.paf.exe
2cbcafe700d9c7a3e0db4cf5f14f4e55 OpenOffice_Portable_2.3.0_de_TR_2.paf.exe
8675468146cc5d842c270724bd9434a9 OpenOffice_Portable_2.3.0_en-US_TR_2.paf.exe
cabf135290689adcaf8eb2ee55e6763a OpenOffice_Portable_2.3.0_lang_fr_TR_2.paf.exe

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Other Packages ...

... could be created soon, if You want more.
But lets wait for Johns toughts before.

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Two things

Is this an Official Beta? (oxymoron?)

What is a TR?

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No Beta ...

... it is a Test or Development Release in order to show what could be done as a new OOoPortable version.

Because of OOoP ist the project of John Haller this Development release could not be an 'official' (beta) untill he will say 'Yes it will'.

That's why it is situated in the Test area on SF and a special splash is used for it.

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It worked .... nice

I have tried out the german package so far.

It worked fine; I was impressed by the feature of "reinstalling" ---> in an second run, the installer has deleted some of the previous installed modules (spellcheckers).
Really nice !

But is that feature really needed ? Are there any optional modules of OOo ?

But in all ... well done !

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Optional setup and reinstall ...

were things a lot of people asked for.

Python is optional in the original OOo Installer too. All other options gives You a change to create a minimized OOoP version that fits an nearly every usb-stick (>128 MB).

The reinstall/update feature gives You a quick and secure way to fix broken OOoP installs.

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ok....

... yes, ok ..... in a few days I will have time to test the multilingual version

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ML installer works..

but there´s a little mistake in "optionale woertberbuecher". When do we get the final ?

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What a mistake ...

... string in the installer or something else?

I'm still waiting for an answer of John.
At the moment there is a lot to do.
If the new multilingual (pigdin) installer is out, I'll create a new OOoP installer on the base of this.

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Just the spelling in the langstring..

it should be woerterbuecher instead of woertberbuecher

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This will be fixed ...

... in the next Version Smile

Thank You for feedback!

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Time to release !?

Hi John @all,
I think it's time now to release a new version of OOo Portable (2.3.0).

I'm willing and able to this work and it seems to me that John is packed with a lot of other things at the moment.

So if I do not hear anything else (against this plan) from John I will publish release candidates for en, de, fr and nl and a multilang version.

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The test version has not been analyzed. I need to ensure that:

1. The process is easily repeatable for all languages
2. It doesn't have too many options and none too technical (more than 1 or 2 for the most part... asking an end-user to choose whether to install Python is a bad idea)
3. It is correctly calculating available space on the drive regardless of options selected and which options were selected previously
4, It supports all the new launcher and installer bits from the other new apps (it doesn't)

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Thank You John ...

... for the quick reply!
1. It is, because it is based on the en-us version an the lang packs
2. Good point! Lets make python standard as You suggested it
3. Yes You're right, this should be double checked
4. You're right, because it was created before the excelent new installers came out.

So I think the best solution at the moment is the way You have used for the last FF release: Single installers / launchers packages for each language at the moment.
All the other stuff could be an idea for the future...

Should I create OOo single packages based on the last FF installers with only two options (help files and dics and optional images). Or if it is the better way to get a release in the next days without any option...

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I'm working on getting Thunderbird and Sunbird out now, but let me double-check tomorrow. I had a partially-done "minimal" selection that made a couple changes. It would simplify the install but we'd need to get another couple strings translated.

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Good news ...

... I'll waiting for it and than we will find a solution, I'm shure Smile

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Hi John ...

... if You send me Your code (for the options) I could create OOo Portable packages based on the new 2.3.1 tomorrow.

As alternative I could create packages without options in the installer based on the last FF installer.

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Ping John ...

... it would be great to bring OOo Portable on the way.

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I'm gonna package it like normal tonight / tomorrow. I figure it's better to get it out while we figure out how we'll be doing it in the future.

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I agree :-)

Lets publish it the 'old way' and than take the time it takes to discuss and develop the new way. So we will have an actual 'stable' release.

If the stable version (2.3.1)is published, I'll make a new development release with an short docu how the built process works

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John, is there any good

John, is there any good reason for saying that "... asking an end-user to choose whether to install Python is a bad idea"? It saves plenty MB for me and I like that.

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But how smart about python

But how smart about python are you? (no offense intended, please follow my logic). While you know about it (maybe just that it saves space)-the average person that downloads a gob of stuff of this site and never comes back will be totaly confused.

I'm pretty sure that JTH is aiming to have it set so that when you "go portable" on a host computer, you mess with nothing that isn't reset when you're done- which is why they are installing Python.

Perhaps, -if John is willing- it could have a simple install and and advanced install, or something along those lines, although I think simplicity is the key here.

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I understand what you say,

I understand what you say, but I think the question here is about breaking a default installation if python is not installed. You can think users could eventually be not smart enough, but why would you think that in the first place? Giving users a fair option to save MB is a good thing, if (and only if) not installing python doesn't break a default installation. And I think it does not.

An option for an advanced installation is ok with me Smile

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About 2.3.1 and es-ES langpack

The 2.3.0 version has come out very unmature and there are many people waiting for a spanish version langpack in the openoffice.org es support mail-lists. I hope the testing for this to come OK and an easy way on the 2.3.1 multilingual outcome.¿¿How do you to apply/prepare the language packs??

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Langpacks

in general You could use the orginal langpack for the non portable version in order to localize Your OOoPortable.

The problem is, that the installer writes some entries in the local registry of the computer.

Last time I've created the langpacks by local install in an empty folder (You have to put some files of the OOo Installation in it before You start the installer an have to remove it before the last dialog is closed).

The best way to create PortableApps compatible language packs is to create a launcher using the original langpack and removing the registryentries after performing the langpack installation.

If a new version of OOoPortable is out I'll create such an laucher for test.

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