Juice Portable 2.2 Development Test 10 (Testers Needed)

you are specifying a SF mirror?

In your JuicePortable.nsi you have !define PORTABLEAPPNAME "Stellarium Portable"

JuicePortable.ini makes references to Stellarium

/Other/Source/Readme.txt makes reference to MediaCoder

The app works well, just those changes need to be made from what I can see.

Hi; I've been giving this a whirl;

Juice is forgetting the status of items in it's feed between each use. Since several of the feeds I subscribe to have hundreds of 'historical' items in the feed, and I need these to be skipped to avoid downloading 1/2 a gig of junk (old) items.

Each time I restart Juice these 'skipped' items are now set to 'download' and Juice moronically fills my disk, then whinges that it has no space left.

If I go through the horribly manual process of marking these hundreds of items as 'skip', this is all forgotten next time I start Juice. Even if Portableapps has remained running in the meantime and I am still on the same host system.

Juice (as it's installed default) used a location on the C: drive of my system as it's download location. This seems wrong for the portable version, surely the most common use will be to download to the USB device itself?

It was easy to achieve this in a nice way by specifying a absolute path without a drive assignment (eg. '\Podcasts') in the Juice preferences. This appears to be immune from Drive Letter issues etc, and is preserved between sessions.

Is it possible to modify the portable Juice defaults so that it has this set by default? I guess the 'Music' folder is the sensible default.

A little footnote; there are some MP3 'sticks' that have a 2 folder directory depth limit for playing music files.
- Mine is like that, and once Juice had added it's own per-feed folders to the path I could not play anything until I changed from specifying '/music/podcasts' to just '/podcasts'.
- Hopefully this is only a problem affecting MuVo owners

Hi!, thanks for the reply. And thanks for working on this too.

A default of going to the host PC is fine, but I think that setting Juice to download to the flash device itself is a trick you need to document quite visibly. Do not underestimate how many users will want to use this directly from their MP3 player, so that they can just plug into any convenient PC while on the move and get the latest feed items/episodes. It's a subtly different usage model compared with the desktop-oriented portable apps.

In terms of wearing out the flash drive (capacity loss); if your flash drive is also your MP3 player, then the podcasts are going to end up on the device anyway.. But that is a lot of podcasts! 100,000+ write-cycles = 200 years+ at my average of one podcast per day, I'll wear out before It does

I've been using this an either it has an issue or I do. (Probability 30/70:))

I'm running Juice on my hard drive, and I left the default download directory as c:\juice\Downloaded Podcasts or whatever. (It makes sense to me that this would be especially useful if running on a flash drive.) When I close Juice, it copies the podcasts all to a Downloaded Podcast directory in the Data directory under the Juice Portable apps directory. (Sorry, don't have the exact path, currently on a different computer. Maybe c:\portableapps\portableapps\juiceportable\data\downloaded podcasts?) Anyway, when Juice is restarted, it doesn't find the downloads, and gets them all again. Both the copy and the download take time, and I'm not sure what the reason is for the transfer.

As a side note, someone on the Juice forum said that there is no further development on this. Anybody know if this is true? I wish there were some changes, like the ability to sort downloaded feeds by title, date, etc.

Okay, so this is lookin' pretty good. I've got a few comment however.

1. I'd try to sectionize the code more like that other applications have done. It's alright how it is currently, but it is a little clearer and may be easier in the long run if you split it into sections like:
   • CheckDefaultData
   • CopySettings
   • LaunchNow
   • CopySettingsBack

   Just a suggestion, It really doesn't matter either way. Just a little easier to do it as above in my view.

2. If someone sets the Downloaded Podcasts directory to say F:\Documents\Music, you can't expect them to know to use relative paths. I'd suggest using the ReplaceInFile function to update the drive letter before each launch in the config file. Check something like FileZilla for that.
3. Another idea for where to set the Downloaded Podcasts directory to would to be to set it to Documents\Music if it exists. You can check out BonkEnc Portable for some usage ideas, but here's the rundown. You check if the variable "PortableApps.comMusic" (set by the future menu version) exists, if it's equal to $CURRENTDRIVE(have to get this variable before the replace in file code)\Documents\Music, you use it. If not, you check if $CURRENTDRIVE\Documents\Music exists. If not, you just don't worry about it. If either of those does exists, you do a ReplaceInFile on ipodder.cfg, and replace Data\\Downloaded Podcasts with $CURRENTDRIVE\\Documents\\Music. Follow? I know that's a lot. I'll be on IRC and IM for help.
4. In the help.html add a 'Portable App Issues' section, you'll find the generic section in Jooleem Portable's help file.

We'll also have to add in the code to set the language from the variable the future menu sets. I know that may be a lot to grasp, so again, I'm on IM and IRC for help.

The link is dead

I am trying to put in Proxy settings, using Test 10, and it doesn't work. I am using a squid proxy server which is accessed on port 8080. Proxy logs indicate that JuicePortable doesn't hit the proxy server at all.

Oh it's looking so close to being ready, but yes, the Proxy support is broken. I have also set a proxy on mine and it is not able to even scrape the name of the feeds. If you could fix that I'd be a happy bunny.

Hey this is a great idea for a portable app. I was trying to find a FF3 ext for this sort of thing and I couldn't. Plus, with some of the FF exts that I test, it'd be nice if I didn't have to worry about something like this creating a conflict.

I have yet to DL and try it out though because the check sum isn't correct.

Can you please clarify for me? Thank you!

I have just discovered Portable apps and this is something that I am finding very useful. How is the development going?

Is this project abandoned? I was looking for a good portable podcast client.

Regards.-