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PAP doesn't behave like a normal menuBruce Pascoe - March 22, 2009 - 8:07am
Navigation-wise I mean. This is something that's always bugged me, but as 2.0 is imminent I figure I better bring it up sooner rather than later. * The arrow keys scroll the menu rather than select. This is incorrect and makes the menu impossible to use with the keyboard alone. * ENTER doesn't choose. Instead I have to click with the mouse. Again, this makes the menu impossible to use by keyboard alone. Mouse navigation is fine with a mouse, but when all you have is a touchpad (as on my netbook), it's usually easier just to use the keyboard. Unfortunately I can't do so with the PAP. What I'd suggest is the following key setup: * Arrow keys should change selection. Pressing -> while in the app menu should switch to the links and <- from there should return to the apps. * Ctrl+Arrow should scroll one item at a time. This key combination isn't standard across all apps (many don't implement it), but I really wish it was. Also, the current selection shouldn't change when the menu is scrolled this way. * PageUp/PageDown should scroll a whole page; so no change from the current behavior. * ENTER should activate the selected menu item. As you've said in the past John, this is a menu and it should behave like one. Unfortunately, right now it acts nothing like a menu. Even the Windows Vista Start menu, with as many bells and whistles as it has, is still fully accessible with the keyboard. ( categories: )
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Some good points
It looks like "focus" only occurs at the mouse pointer.
I'd like to see the TAB button do something, too - there are two main areas in the menu, the apps on the left and the menu icons on the right. TAB could switch focus to either area, or could take focus from the apps area to the menu icons one at a time.
Of course there are hotkeys for the menu icons (Alt+D for the Documents, Alt+M for Music) but they don't seem to work for 1.5!
I guess that's a bug report. The Hotkeys work in PAP 1.1, but not in 1.5.
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Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
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Hear, hear!!
I never really considered it, but now that you brought it up I totally agree.
oh yeah ...
this isn't ada compliant. I didn't think of that.
Is it hard to recode the keyboard shortcuts? There are Mac & PC differences.
With just the mouse, it's universal.
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It's also an Accessibility issue
Some people have a harder time using the mouse, due to disabilities.
When I find myself in times of trouble Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
that's my ada bit ...
American Disabilities Act in the USA, which wants everything on the net to be complient for deaf/blind/etc folks so that if it is using standard html coding, it's typeable by the braille machine or played outloud by a reader. Or I suppose just keyboard use for the arthritic/manually incapacipated.
Don't be an uberPr∅. They are stinky.
Missed that
I was wondering what ada meant!
With my corporate background, I tend to interpret abbreviations like that only if they are capitalized.
When I find myself in times of trouble Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
May I add my vote
for the menu to support normal windows menu keyboard controls.
Is it possible with the current code without too much effort or is it a really big deal?