Is there going to be an Ubuntu on stick ?
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I didn't try any of these though. Good luck!
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get a ubuntu iso and burn it to a cd then run off that it has a feature to put it on a usb (well at least 9.04 dose this)
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It seems that I can actually install it also (as in a real install). I'm going to test it out.
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but what for?
Ubuntu is desktop system, very recource hungry it is the same as trying to run vista from the stick.
The other portable versions use either virtual machine (irtual box) or colinux.
This does it not make better. Desktop system on flash is simply slow and not very much useful for anythning then a proof that it works.
Much more fun is then something like puppy linux , when you have a computer booting from the stick.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
Puppy's JWM, however easy to get on the internet with, is near impossible to navigate. The theme sucks. Etc. Etc. The only thing attracting me to Puppy now is that you can install any kind of linux package on it, but it doesn't work to well :(.
Okay, maybe I'll use slax.
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In its original state , slax is just normal live system as knoppix and others. But you can build it yourself so, that it will also behave like puppy and copy itself to ram and run from there only. Then it is very useful. But you have to take care what you pack in for modules, it soon becomes very big in volume and will take very, very long time then to boot since then all has to be transported from the flash to ram first!
Puppy does work so natively and one can get used to such thing, you can change lot of things on puppy, many different preconfigured distros, additional modules etc.
But it is not a desktop system after all.
With a disaster aid organisation, we are just starting to use puppy as our backup system. Our laptops have kind of selfdestructing feature if get stolen, even if recovered, can not be fixed in field. The hd is then trash. And anyway hd is the first thing to fail in heavy mobile work.
With puppy, we are still able to communicate, send mails, configure satellite terminals etc. Provided the pc can boot from the stick.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
Either way, slax is prettier.
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Very interesting could you tell more about this?
I really don't understand the appeal of this. It is not going to be as smooth as a hard disk install. The network may not be accessable, as in a library, for example. If it is, what is wrong with using whatever is already installed, such as windows? Or, why not install linux on the HD? Dual boot?
I could possibly understand a portable HD install.
There seems to be no real reason to go with linux in general, except that it is not Windows or Mac. They say it is more stable and secure, but I've seen plenty of articles decrying that.
;>jamvaru
That's a whole other can of worms, there, Jam.
Linux has plenty of points going for it, as does Mac/Windows.
-Whistle
Well theres initial cost, ongoing costs, security, works well on older hardware, openness, ease of use, Linux only software and of course customizability. I'm fairly new to Linux, dual boot XP and Ubuntu, but can think of these advantages already and have no doubt longer term users could greatly increase the list. The main point though is not to dismiss it outright just because your not familiar with it.
I personally would really like a persistent portable Ubuntu on my portable hard drive (bootable or runnable in Windows) that adhered to PortableApps.com portability standards (No modifying host pc, no personal data left behind and if possible doesn't require admin rights [This could be overlooked]). However due to the difficulties in making that a reality it won't be happening today.
Still no reason to shoot down individuals interested in the idea. If anyone is seriously considering devoting resources to developing this good luck and I look forward to a dev test
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>>>I really don't understand the appeal of this. It is not going to be as smooth as a hard disk install. The network may not be accessable, as in a library, for example. If it is, what is wrong with using whatever is already installed, such as windows? Or, why not install linux on the HD? Dual boot?
>>>For one thing, you can use it as a rescue drive in case of problems.
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There is already the possibility of putting Ubuntu on a USB stick, but keep in mind that a USB key has a limited read/write lifespan.
Personally I think the best solution would be to implement a combination of a USB stick and a bootable CD. If we could manage to get the Live system to autodetect a specially configured USB thumbdrive to use as a persistent storage (store all the modifications done to the system, without storing the OS completely) would be a nice solution.
Puppy Linux does this. When you boot from a live-cd, you have the option of saving your data and changes in a file to a hard disk, flash drive, or even a multisession writeable cd or dvd.
Also, it's good for booting from a flash drive. If your computer has enough memory (256M?), it loads the entire OS directly into memory on bootup. It only writes data back to the flash drive when you shut down or if you do a manual save. A bit risky if you have a crash, bot a lot less wear and tear on the flash drive.
Wondered whether this will help
Get the live usb creator from https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator
It gives you ability to put a Fedora image on a usb stick, which when Windoze refuses to boot allows you to boot from USB (if your PC supports it) then you can at least recover your data.
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I carry a USB drive which has a bootable version of Puppy431, the PortableApps Suite and many other portable applications.
Wine is installed in Puppy, which allows me to run many windows programs when I'm booted into Linux.
It's like having your office in your shirt pocket.
hallo tlchost
just a question: did you install the wine in puppy how? do they have now it themselves in their repository or do you have to prepare it yourself ?
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
Otto....there are quite a few wine versions available for Puupy as .pet or .sfs files. Not sure what version of Puppy you have.
I am running 4.31 and I prefer the .sfs files. The one that I use is ch4-winelite-1.1.14.sfs which can be downloaded at
http://puppylinux.ca/members/choicepup/ChoicePup431/sfs/
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I use this version because the later versions of wine do not work with keepassportable.
The developer of that sfs file has created a sfs loader that allows one to load up to 30 sfs files at bootup...which means you can configure Puppy pretty much as you want it. He is soon to release ChoicePup-4.3.1 which will be a really small 4.3.1 OS that can be beefed up with the sfs files.
Hope this helps.
Thom
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will check that .
The last time I was searching around there I could not find wine.
We are planning to have for our humanitarian aid org sticks booatble with puppy if needed, but otherwise having portable apps on the stick for use.
I see also that I was searching among the pet repository and not sfs I think.
ok thanks for info, will look into it sometimes.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
Creating the live USB start-up disk in ubuntu is probably the best way to get Ubuntu on a usb.
System --> Administration --> Create Start-Up Disk
You need at least a 2 GB drive to do it
Could work on a 1 GB, but suckish
Note:I'm talking about using the whole drive for this. AND FEDORA IS HORRIBLE!!!
You can boot from a usb stick into ubuntu. Pendrivelinux has instructions on how to do it. I've set it up with Ubuntu 9.10, the first linux installation that has native support for my network card in this crappy laptop. It does seem to be a little slow, but part of that may be that it's booting to a livecd iso, and having to discover hardware every boot, but it's booting up to it. I'm sure the casper loop may also have something to do with the slowing down. Probably better off putting it on a portable hard drive rather than a flash drive stick.
You could just do a normal install, then direct it to your External Hard Drive during install. That's What I did.
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Doing specialized USB installs are smaller, use the Live Disc data and a persistant image, so it can fit on a 2GB flash drive
External Hard Drive is fine for normal installs, maybe even a 16GB flash drive probably.
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so, theoretically you could install to a dvd burner? or duul layr dvd?
I suppose you would need the install media on a stick or hdd or other player.
you could also install to cdram
???
doesn't a local install preclude portability, as the install is specific to local computer setup?
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