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Problem with drive space

Hi, I installed PortableApps on an Windows 8 PE/SE USB 3.0 Stick with 32GB. The install went well and I started to add Apps to the bas install. Now I got the error that I didn't have enough drive space available for install let say Open Office and others.
My normal Drive (letter) is E for that 32GB Stick and has more than 29GB free. Inside Windows8PE I found that the Data Directory, where the apps are stored/installed, has the Letter X and called Boot. I could not see any Partition X using either Disk Management from Windows and EaseUS Partition Manager! Drive X "Boot" simply didn't exist on the computer.
I was try to find out how to expand the size for the Apps on Boot X but could not find anything. Same applies to the Website/Support of PortableApps!

Could someone with knowledge provide the required infos in details?

Thanks and best regards from Thailand.

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Unsupported

Unofficial Windows PE style installs are generally unsupported. What's likely occurring is that the read-only boot drive is getting picked up. Windows doesn't properly handle that type of setup, so weird things like this can happen. The platform just uses the Windows API to determine where it's running from and how much space that drive has available. It seems that API is broken under your Windows PE setup.

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What's that "X" Drive?

That "X" Drive isn't viewable as an existing Partition, not on Windows Own Disk Management, nor in an Partition Master Tool! So, what really is that "X" Dive? Is it a kind Ram Drive? And how it gets installed? For me it looks like that it's just an temporary available Drive, like an Ram Drive. That drive contains the 'normal' Folders Windows creates while installed like Program Files, Windows, Users and other folders. Part of it is also PortableApps Folder. In the Root on the USB 32GB Stick's only available one Partition are, look here: http://s20.postimg.org/anzi5o88t/pis_33.png

The Folder PortableApps isn't there! For to create the PE I used Gandalf's_Win8PE_x86.ISO which has Portable Apps pre-installed as well. I just updated that version to the latest one 12.05

OK, I'll take a look again tmorrow morning in that, it's now 23:15 in Thailand and bedtime! Good night.

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Unsupported, Illegally Packaged

The software you mention is a modification of Windows that is distributed illegally. The copies of the PortableApps.com Platform, Foxit, Google Chrome, etc are all included without permission and in violation of their licenses as well. Not to mention that the internet-connected software included is severely out of date and very insecure. Thus, it's completely unsupported and likely won't work right.

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Illegal?

OK, today I'll install the ADK for Windows 8.1 which is legally owned and used on my machines,build an Windows PE and see what happen than with PortableApps.
Maybe that's illegal too? According to your answer Mr. John T. Haller, I get a bit confused and now may need to check with all those developers of apps, you provide on your platform, they're legally used by you? Your jump, on that all I used are illegal, forces me to check first with 3.party if all apps you use on your platform are legally obtained and running so I didn't run into any illegal use using your apps! This isn't any offence, it's just the result of the conclusion taken regarding your post's!
As an other result, I'll also contact Gandalf and ask about the legality of HIS apps!

In reality I didn't like those accusing post's in open public forums! For such post, the PM systems of forums, which is also available to this forum, should be used! I'm Admin and Moderator of other forums where such post's are not allowed and resulting in punishment! That I answer this way here, is an result of your accusation against me, for to use illegal content, in an open public forum.

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Well Known, Unintended

It's fairly well known that just about every downloadable PE edition of Windows is illegally done. After all, it involves downloading a version of Windows modified by someone other than Microsoft without paying for it and without proving you have a license. Repackaging and bundling commercial software, freeware or trademarked open source software without permission from the publisher is a copyright and/or trademark violation.

We have permission from the publishers of all the apps we repackage either directly or via the open source licenses they are released under.

Letting someone know they are using an illegal software package is quite common within a forum when a user is asking for assistance, especially when a 3rd party has repackaged our software without our knowledge or permission in a way we do not support. It isn't some kind of mark of shame we dole out or intended as an accusation that you are purposely engaged in illegal activities and I apologize if it came across as such. We often get users asking us questions about illegally packaged apps like Photoshop, similarly repackaged for free without permission from the publisher, but done using our tools. We make sure to let users know that it is illegal and why and that we don't support such packages.

One advantage to posting it as a forum reply is that it allows others searching for assistance with the same thing to find out that what they are using is an illegal and unsupported package in the future. Lastly, this forum does not have PMs at present.

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PE boots from the "X" drive

The "X" Drive is the drive that the PE is booted from. Boot the PE and see what it shows in Windows Explorer.

The drive will be referred to with other drive letters when accessed from other Windows systems.

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Drive "X"

Drive "X" isn't a real drive as it looks like, it's just an emulated temporary drive, like an RAM Drive.

All the downloaded apps I downloaded from an running 32GB Stick using Windows 8 PE and PortableApps, are not shown in any place of that USB Stick. So, where they are?

According to the Properties of that USB Stick, 547MB (573,579,264 bytes) are used and 29,4GB (31,623,999,488 bytes) are free to use. The capacity of downloaded apps are near 800MB, so WHERE they are? That confuses me a bit!

Windows Explorer just show Drive "F" for the USB Stick in an normal booted Windows 8.1 or even 10TP, NO Drive "X" is shown anywhere, even not in Disk Management. Booted from the USB Stick, it shows that there is Drive "X" called: Boot in Windows Explorer of Windows 8 PE but didn't shows any Drive "X" beside of the USB Stick with just 1 Partition (here Drive "E")! So, where is those Drive X and where the content downloaded and installed with PortableApps (800MB)? The space used on the USB Stick is just the same as mention above (547MB)! Drive "X" by the way is using 246MB (258,671,616 bytes) according to Properties from which are 244 are free!

There's also an RAMdisk as Drive "B" with an Capacity of 1.18GB (used: 42.9MB)! Still could no find where those 800MB are?!

On Drive "X" is an folder PortableApps which shows a use of 446MB for the installed apps shown on it! That didn't match the shown capacity of the Drive "X" with 246MB! ALL folders and files on Drive "X" together having an size of 1.08GB!! That's 5 times the size of the whole Drive "X" shown (246MB)!

Any explanation?

Thanks

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