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Toucan 1.0 Prerelease 4 [Updated 2007-05-28] Steve Lamerton
  This is mainly a bug fix release over Prerelease 1, so here's what you need to know.
The files are hosted by Ryan and are here. *Edit*These are new links as of 16:30 21-05-07 to fix a small bug in the backup section. Enjoy! Note: I am not sure how well some of the new changes will work, so please test! Prerelease 3
Prerelease 4
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I will test.
Thanks.
Oh, P.S., Steve, how do I make a compiled HTML help file?
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Well,
In my very limited experience, I used HTML Help Workshop and I'm fairly sure Steve uses it too.
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Blog.
So all that Airbus-delay trouble over here in Europe is because of YOU!
Simeon.
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Thanks.
I was looking for that one, but couldn't find it, thanks.
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a bug
Hi again,
When doing backup, I can't exclude .pdf files.
An extract from jobs.ini:
Exclusions=|strony|.pdf|
edit: Works without dot though
Cheers
Wichura
Ooops,
yep, looks like I forgot to update that part of the code, I'll reupload shortly.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
New,
downloads now up.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Works just as well as the
Works just as well as the other.
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out.
Tony Blair
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook
German
translations are now up.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Cool
Who did that???
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
OK,
you'll be in the about box in the next version!
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Just checking
Did you get my mail or did it get lost in cyberspace?
I,
did, I'll send it again tomorrow morning if you still haven't received it.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Did you
ever get this?
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Uh could someone send this to me?
at: Majora700 (at) gmail.com
Since the files I download off of MediaFire are corrupted.
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Done
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
Steve, can I
Mirror Toucan on a real mirror (Sourceforge.net)?
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As all of ya should know Microsoft is the Evil Empire, and Windows (a.k.a. Winblows or Windoze) is their greatest general, so please make a difference and install Linux or Free BSD on yer Windows comp.
Great job, Steve I think I
Great job, Steve
I think I just found some bugs... concerning portable variables...
When trying to backup my Firefox profile using portable variables, for example, to:
Firefox Profile @date@ - @time@.zipthe resulting backup file is named like this:
Firefox Profile 2007-05- - 14-.zipAnd, additionally, when trying to create my own portable variable, for example, "profile" which refers to:
C:\Documents and Settings\Guest\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\the following entry is created in Variables.ini (I think):
C:\\Documents and Settings\\Guest\\Application Data\\Mozilla\\Firefox\\Profiles\\Notice the double backslashes! Is this normal behavior?
Because of those double backslashes, when I try to edit my "profile" variable (and just click OK), the number of backslashes will double... which is quite annoying!
Keep up the good work!!
Just one another note: I just saw now that you uploaded a new version with some bugfixes, and I haven't tested it yet... So, if you already fixed these, my bad
Right then.
so with the date and time variables you are saying they they are now returning the correct values? I just tried that myself and I can reproduce it, I'll look into that right away. As for the double backslashes, I am afraid that they will have to stay for the moment as they allow me to do my Linux compatibility more easily.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
OK then...
OK then...
Because the values display without last 2 characters (see my previous post)...
I assume that you meant incorrect values above, right?
I've been fooling around with those settings, and when you try to backup to:
Firefox Profile @date@ @ @time@.zipthe resulting backup file is named like this:
Firefox Profile 2007-05 18-.zipThat means that unpaired "@" char "ate" the last char of the @date@ string...
That's just my observation... Hope this helps...
Looking forward seeing you fix this...
Keep up the good work...
Yes,
thats exactly what I meant, I think I have the issue tracked down but I need a little bit more time to fix it cleanly.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Another observation
I've been fooling a little more, following setting:
Firefox Profile @date@\@\@ @time@\@\@.zipgives the correct (aka wanted) resulting backup file:
Firefox Profile 2007-05-24 23-54.zipI hope this will get you more on track...
One more thing, I'm having problems downloading from mediafire.com server. Can someone upload Toucan binaries somewhere else... Thanks in advance!
EDIT: I can download DE and FR localized versions, but I can't download both english versions (paf.exe and zip version)... Can anyone confirm this?
I can't download them
I can't download them either.
cowsay Moo
cowthink 'Dude, why are you staring at me.'
Moved,
back to Ryans server
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Known bugs,
Look out for a new version next week some time as I am quite busy at the moment.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Prerelease 3,
is now out, along with some Polish translations.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Uh Steve? Could I host it
on Sourceforge.net. I won't modify it, except for the 7-Zip Installer icon will be Toucan's logo.
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Well,
I guess that I couldn't stop you if you did! But I would prefer it if you wouldn't as I have taken John up on his offer to host it on PortableApps.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Exclude Single File?
Sorry I don't know if it is a feature request or a bug, but it is not possible to exclude single Files...
Umm,
OK guys I seems to have messed up a bit, as some of you may have noticed in Prerelease 3 there is a whole new progress dialog for Sync, I hadn't meant to include it before 1.1 but I guess as its there I better leave it. The save button doesn't work at the moment and neither does the progress bar, but I'll try and get a new version up as soon as possible that fixes that and expands it to all of the functions (e.g. Backup and Secure).
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Help Menu
Not Showing. When I load the help menu I get a page saying the program cannot load the page.
S.O.G.
S.O.G.
Are,
we talking about clicking on the help button here, if so it seems to work for me, does the help viewer load of not?
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Sorry
I figured it out. I had the help file on a network drive and as soon as I moved it to the computer it worked.
S.O.G.
S.O.G.
Prerelease 4,
has now been uploaded, it has the brand new progress dialogs. I'll send the new files to the translators in a couple of days, the old ones should be fine for now.
As some of you may have guessed I'll keep putting prereleases out until John gets back to me so we can set up an official 1.0 release.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
What a crappy app!!! ;-)
Some bugs:
PS:
The insult in the title is a JOKE!
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
Right then,
if that's your attitude ....
1. I'm guessing this is in Sync then, you could at least say what you are doing, any chance of what the error means in English?
2. I'm already looking into this, it shouldn't be too hard to fix, he says hopefully.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Sorry
It IS the Sync part and the error is "access denied".
Should I email you the logs?
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
Sorry,
I should have been clearer, which function were you using (Update, Equalise etc) and yeah, sending the logs would be good, thanks Simeon.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Copy
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
Steve, Been testing
Steve,
Been testing Prerelease 4 and Simeon beat me to reporting the problem with files that have their Read-only attribute flag set. I'll let you and he sort it out
(although happy to help if necessary)
I would be grateful if you would explain exactly what the "Sync->Other->retain attribute" check box does. The help says "The retain attributes checkbox allows you to keep the files timestamps intact through the sync operation" I don't see any difference in file timestamps between having this unchecked and checked.
I like the new progress display but would it be possible to add an abort button? There are times when one sets a transfer in motion and then realises one has screwed up and files are being sent to the wrong place.
Of course one wouldn't need that if you implemented the preview option, so much nicer to see what the program is going to do before it does it!
BTW where are you based in the UK?
Cheers,
Roger (Horsham, West Sussex)
Are you sure
it is the read-only flag??
Cause I am not.
And I second the abort button.
It is annoying to have it freeze and you cant do anything...
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
When the,
new dialog freeze, the do not stop working in the background, they still copy its just that they do not update the screen, I'm looking into that. As for the file copying issue were files being overwritten?
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
I dunno.
Sorry.
But I am looking forward to PR5 and will test again.
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
See my reply to Steve today
See my reply to Steve today re: read-only flag.
The reason I want an abort button isn't for the freeze situation but for when I've screwed up and files are being transfered to the 'wrong' place.
Well,
it should make sure that the timestamps on the copied files are the same as the originals, fir example if you copy a file without retain attributes on the the creation date will be the time it was copied, if retain attributes is on then it will be the time that the original file was created.
I'll put a preview window in the next release.
I'm near Bath!
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
without retain attributes on
without retain attributes on the the creation date will be the time it was copied, if retain attributes is on then it will be the time that the original file was created.
So "Retain Attributes" actually means "Retain File Creation TimeStamps", right?
If so, wouldn't it be better to be more explicit on the Synch screen? File Attributes usually means the set of flags for read-only, hidden, archive, compressed and encrypted so using this term is confusing.
Self-explanatory stuff doesn't need an entry in the help file
BTW. Checking "Retain Atributes" doesn't work for files that have their read-only attribute flag set when doing a Sync>Copy to an empty destination. The file gets copied OK but a Toucan Error Dialogue box displays with the error message:
"Failed to modify file times for 'file' (error 5: access is denied)" AND
if you press the Details button there is an additional message:
"Failed to open 'file' (error 5: access is denied)"
Hey Steve
Did you know about these?:
Toucan.com
Toucan Industries.Inc
Toucan Capital Group
The second and third one have nice logos!
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” - Richard P. Feynman
"What about Love?" - "Overrated. Biochemically no different than eating large quantities of chocolate." - Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate
Try this for a nice toucan
Nice Toucan
Update,
Spanish translations are up thanks to Wences and arqbrulo (?). I should be uploading Prerelease 5 soon-ish with a preview pane, a scroll bar fix and hopefully a fix for the file copying problem.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Thanks
Thanks for the recognition but I really could not help him translate it. But I will be giving him input on a few things.
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"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius
"Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." -- Lily Tomlin
"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on." -- Robert Frost
"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: baby ain't mine." -- Adam Holguin
Hey! Spiritual support counts!
Your suggestions were valuable!
And besides, I'm sure with the translation of the help file you'll prove to be of much help.
Sure thing
I'd love to help. Is there a specific file that needs to be translated or do we just start typing away in OOoP?
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"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." -- Confucius
"Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." -- Lily Tomlin
"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on." -- Robert Frost
"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: baby ain't mine." -- Adam Holguin
Prerelease 5,
should be coming shortly, I spend a lot of time yesterday trying (unsuccessfully) to multi-thread Toucan, only to find that by adding one extra line to the source I could keep the existing code and still keep the GUI responsive, argh. The preview pane is almost done and all of the progress boxes are no nicely responsive. I have also made sure that all file attributes are copied and there have been a couple of other GUI changes. I might also have fixed that annoying file attribute bug.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Steve, Did you miss my
Steve,
Did you miss my message to you posted yesterday at 4:43pm with subject "without retain attributes on"?
Roger
I saw that,
by checking the box it will now also copy the read-only, hidden, archive, compressed, whatever flags along with the file modification times. If it sees that a file is read only then it wont try to set them as this causes the error.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
If it sees that a file is
If it sees that a file is read only then it wont try to set them as this causes the error.
I doesn't make sense that the read-only flag, which is just meant to protect the contents of the file, causes these problems. I guess it's a limitiation of the MS sytem calls you have to use?
Perhaps you could temporarily clear the read-only flag, then set it again after you've done copying all the other attributes?
Roger.
Good idea,
I'll do that
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Yay... When will this be
Yay... When will this be released?? I wannnntttt ittt!!
Have patience,
I am right in the middle of exams at the moment, infact I just had one and have another in less than two hours, but it will be done by the end of the week (hopefully).
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
That's right.
Have patience.
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By 'Done by the end of the week' you mean official release? Or another pre-release?
Pre-release,
like I said somewhere I can't do an official release until John get back to me and he hasn't sent me and email in about 2 months now.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Maybe someone should make an
Maybe someone should make an 'ATTN: John' thread somewhere...
I think,
that Ryan has. See the off topic forum.
Yours
Steve Lamerton
My Blog
'...and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...' JFK
Make a ATTN: John in the the
Make a ATTN: John in the the Dev forum. He read it I bet.