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no portableapp.com logo

i think its illegal to do this but if portableapps.com give me grant to release it, ill be sharing it with you guys..

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9759/nologoportableapp.jpg

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Release what?

What is it you're planning on doing? That just looks like a screenshot of our menu with our logo removed but still using our graphics.

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yep its your application, im

yep its your application, im not telling this is my application, it is yours, its not mine
some people asking about the logo thing, ill just give them a shot, but i wont release it if you not give me grant for it, dont worry, ill make it only for my self if you dont want anybody to have it Smile

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I`ve just survey your forum

I`ve just survey your forum and i just know there a website modding your application, sorry for you, but isnt that illegal? well ill still support your app cuz it the original recipe. lol

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Not really.

Due to the way open source works, it is not illegal, as long as they don't use portableapps.com logos. I use a mod of the platform, called PAM MOD Patch3d, and it is perfectly legal. Even logo removal is legal.

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Mod Patch3d ?

Never heard of it.
I've heard of R34 but not this one,can't seem to find it on the net either.
Does it exist ? where is it ? where can I have a look at it ?

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yup it is really exist, that

yup it is really exist, that the real screenshot for pam 1.5.2 Smile i wont take it on net if admin not grant it, i wont make it illegal either, for sure Smile

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crookadileNever heard of it.

crookadileNever heard of it. I've heard of R34 but not this one,can't seem to find it on the net either. Does it exist ? where is it ? where can I have a look at it ?

Here it is. There might be a newer one, just found that on Google real quick.

NulltrilizeDyup it is really exist, that the real screenshot for pam 1.5.2 Smile i wont take it on net if admin not grant it, i wont make it illegal either, for sure Smile

I'd be interested if you did it for 1.6 Beta 0. It's got cool features not in 1.5.2. See the Beta Testing forum.

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Well im give a screennie

Well im give a screennie after ill remove the logo, but i wont release it,cuz its not my app, i just show a screen, tomorrow or tonight ill show you.

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how bout they graphic design?

how bout they graphic design? if we use it, is it illegal?

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Trade Dress

If you're gonna be making a competing product, you can't use our graphics either. It's part of the PortableApps.com trade dress. We've let the MODs do it (with our logo intact) until the main platform gets a few of the features it's lacking.

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wait a sec,im not making this

wait a sec,im not making this app mine, i dint say im gonna make this my application you know.

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Just Answering

I wasn't saying you were. I was just saying when you wouldn't be allowed to use the graphics, which is what you asked.

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owh forgive me =) lol sorry

owh forgive me Smile lol sorry my bad~~~

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I'd be interested

I actually think a lot of people would be interested in the menu without the PA.c logo, or at least the option to hide it. The logo isn't part of the theme, it's drawn separately over the theme, so a theme creator must leave that area blank so as not to have part of the theme's design hidden by a logo over it.

No offense at all meant to PA.c, but being able to hide the logo would open the door to more creative themes, as other logos could be placed up there. I wouldn't mind a stylized print of my name up there, for example.

Of course this is not something that would be turned on by default, but rather just be there for the power users. Heck, don't even put it in the GUI, make it so if you add to an INI, DisplayLogo=False, would turn it off, that would be fine. Because then it wouldn't be hard for me to take any theme I have, write my name in some cool font, and add that to the theme's background. Maybe even have my contact info up there, in case the flash drive gets lost and somebody (honest) finds it.

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Yup, its really nice, but you

Yup, its really nice, but you should know that it is hard to make an application like this, so i think its okay they have their own logo, its a free application, so dont mind it Smile

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You did

NulltrilizeDYup, its really nice, but you should know that it is hard to make an application like this, so i think its okay they have their own logo, its a free application, so dont mind it Smile

You did, so what's the problem?

In any case, the software is open-source, which means that anybody can edit the source code and change it as they see fit, they just have to follow a couple simple and hardly restrictive guidelines, and say where they got the code. While unnecessary, it's also a common courtesy to let them know what you're doing with their code. That's just the nature of open source, and if developers didn't want their application messed with, they wouldn't be into open source. You can still have freeware without open source; it's done all the time. CCleaner is a good example that comes immediately to mind.

Two examples of modifications to JTH's menu also come to mind. First, a site we're really not supposed to talk about, but we can jokingly call it PortableCrapz, last I heard. They package illegal software as portable and their site is kind of a parody of this one. They took the menu, removed the logo, and put their own up there. Aside from their logo being a cheap knockoff of this site's logo and had they used their own, original logo, that in and of itself would be acceptable under and open source license. Second, the R34 mod mentioned earlier in the topic. It removes the logo altogether and adds a ton of nice features still unmatched by the current menu, and it's a year and a half old. That's also acceptable under open source rules. (See also: Geek.menu.)

So you posting an alternate version without the logo is perfectly acceptable, though, if I am wrong, JTH or one of the mods can correct me as they see fit. I believe I understand the basics, but I am still learning in the world of open-source, myself.

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R34 Nathan

Nathan the link you posted is for R34,not the Patch3d that NulltrilizeD mentioned.

Unless they are both the same and NulltrilizeD got the name wrong.
Perhaps this explains why I couldn't find it when I Googled Patch3d.

P.S.
Like your idea about turning off the logo and replacing it with one of your choice
or your name with a cool font.I'd be interested in that as well.

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Nope, it my mod, and it have

Nope, it my mod, and it have original feature in 1.5.2, its different from R3 patch,ill releasing 1.6 beta soon without logo. ( meant only screenie ) Smile

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Typo

According to Google there's no such thing as "PAM MOD Patch3d". So if somebody has it, they haven't shared it online. I believe it's a typo for the R34, the current version of which is here. Can't seem to edit the other post.

NulltrilizeD didn't mention Patch3d, roamer did.

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Correct

Your correct Nathan, roamer did mention it. My mistake.
It probably is a typo and PAM MOD Patch3d doesn't exist.

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Here it is, the PAM 1.6

Here it is, the PAM 1.6 pre-realease 0 with no logo at all!!!

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/130/nologojped.jpg

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Here's a thought

How about proudly displaying the logo of one of the great innovations in software, and giving mad props to the site and people that made it happen?

I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.

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emmmm what you meant by that?

emmmm what you meant by that?

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Asked and answered

solanusHow about proudly displaying the logo of one of the great innovations in software, and giving mad props to the site and people that made it happen?

This has already been covered in this topic. No need to answer it twice. But while I do agree that portability is one of the greatest innovations in the software world, I disagree that not displaying the logo is in any way a sign of disrespect. Running the Blahspot version of the menu, on the other hand...

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