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m_c
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np++ 7.6 plugins/plugin manager

Hi,

I upgraded np++ today but the plugin manager is missing. So wether I could use alredy installed plugins nor I could install them again. OK I could copy/move the files from plugin's folder to %LOCLAPPDATA% and rebuild the new plugin architecture. But new plugin manager is still missing.

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Publisher Decision

The publisher has decided to remove the plugin manager from non-local-installer builds and (apparently) only to support it when installed locally.

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yeah, for me is a terrible regression

I think that the result is (for me) a terrible regression: also, I installed (with normal installer) the program, and apparently many of the plugins I had before have been removed!!
I'll try to go back to previous version, as long as there is this problem.

I *strongly* suggest not to install this "upgrade", or at least to backup previous version and try before use in production.
I do like notepad++, but I always have a backup copy of it, because upgrades always risk to (usually they do) destroy previous settings (user defined languages, favorites, function lists...)
It's not a very user friendly program (and using partable apps you shouldn't configure this program with the same program, because you have to write on configuration files that get lost on a restart)

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Real big fan of portableapps

Real big fan of portableapps and notepad++, I may revisit this but I rolled back my install by reinstalling the prior "portable" version:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Notepad%2B%2B%20Port...

Looks like NP++ may be discussing the outcome
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/community/topic/16566/support-for-plugins-...

I give the Plugins Admin functionality implementation three shrugs:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Plugins "Admin" functionality WAS sort of available...as a plugin
https://github.com/bruderstein/nppPluginManager
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Portability of NP++ WAS possible but wasn't considered until criticism...so they removed it from portable
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The path "%LOCALAPPDATA%\Notepad++\plugins" is not portable

I'm long overdue for putting anything in the tip jar so I'll correct that today
https://portableapps.com/donate/

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Only APPDATA?

So does Notepad++ only use %LOCALAPPDATA%\Notepad++\plugins for plugins now? It won't use Notepad++.exe dir\plugins any more?

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No

No, after digging through the above links, it looks like %ISNTDIR%\plugins is still used - but the "Plugins Admin Manager" is not supported for the portable build. All other plugins, according to the links, should continue to work in %INSTDIR%\plugins.

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I believe that is incorrect.

I believe that is incorrect. After installing 7.6 my plugins are not on the menu. Once I reverted to 7.5.9 they returned so is seems that existing "portable-ized" plugins are boned in 7.6 which makes that version unusable for me.

Can't really take my expected functionality suite with me on the go if some of the features come up missing and have to be re-installed on each machine. Plus I like not leaving a footprint all over the stinking OS.

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Locations

It seems that some plugins in 7.5.x were installed to the Notepad++ main directory instead of Notepad++\plugins. Those would be ignored after upgrading to 7.6.x. Did you check and if any are there manually move them?

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Everything seems to be where is shoud be

I see all the plugins in: ..\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable\App\Notepad++\plugins

When I pull down the Plugins menu on 7.5.9 I see these items:

DSpellCheck
Mime Tools
Converter
NppExport
Compare
Hex Editor
NppFtp
Tidy2
XMLTools

When I pull down the Plugins menu on 7.6 I see these items:

DSpellCheck
Mime Tools
Converter
NppExport

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Plugins should now be in

Plugins should now be in their respective folder.
For example:
..\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable\App\Notepad++\plugins\XMLTools\XMLTools.dll
..\PortableApps\Notepad++Portable\App\Notepad++\plugins\HexEditor\HexEditor.dll

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New plugins home

See #:

This table should clarify the location of Notepad++'s plugins.

    Notepad++ loads plugins from: %PROGRAMDATA%\Notepad++\plugins\
    plugins list dir : %PROGRAMDATA%\Notepad++\plugins\Config\
    plugins’ config dir for user data: %APPDATA%\plugins\Config\
    because Notepad++ installed on: %PROGRAMFILES%\Notepad++\ or wherever without doLocalConf.xml

    Notepad++ loads plugins from: <NPP_INST_DIR>\plugins\
    plugins list dir : <NPP_INST_DIR>\plugins\Config\
    plugins’ config dir: <NPP_INST_DIR>\plugins\config\
    because Notepad++ installed on: wherever (except in %PROGRAMFILES%\Notepad++\) with doLocalConf.xml
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Bummer

This is disappointing. Even reverting to a prior version is not a good long-term solution. From the brief look I've had at other portable apps, there isn't anything quite as robust as Notepad++. Hopefully the developer can re-evaluate the decision.

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I just faced the problem...

I upgraded and... No plugin manager. And I don't have a backup. I returned back to an older version. Tested some of the older ones and I choosed a version 7.3.3. This is the highest version where the plugin manager is built-in and works properly.

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