Toucan 1.0 Prerelease 4 [Updated 2007-05-28]

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May 21, 2007 - 9:07am

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Toucan 1.0 Prerelease 4 [Updated 2007-05-28]

This is mainly a bug fix release over Prerelease 1, so here's what you need to know.

The way the mirror works was completely overhauled, should be faster and more efficient.
The exclusions have been changed slightly, you need to put the leading dot in before file extensions
You cannot add a blank exclusion, keeps it nice and tidy!
Updated the manual
I think that there was something else but I can't remeber at the moment

The files are hosted by Ryan and are here.

*Edit*These are new links as of 16:30 21-05-07 to fix a small bug in the backup section.

Enjoy!

Note: I am not sure how well some of the new changes will work, so please test!

Prerelease 3

Should fix the portable variables
Should fix some translation issues

Prerelease 4

New progress boxes

May 21, 2007 - 9:33am

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I will test.

Thanks.

Oh, P.S., Steve, how do I make a compiled HTML help file?

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May 22, 2007 - 2:28am

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Well,

In my very limited experience, I used HTML Help Workshop and I'm fairly sure Steve uses it too.
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May 25, 2007 - 10:11am

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Thanks.

I was looking for that one, but couldn't find it, thanks.

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May 21, 2007 - 10:17am

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a bug

Hi again,
When doing backup, I can't exclude .pdf files.
An extract from jobs.ini:
Exclusions=|strony|.pdf|

edit: Works without dot though

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May 21, 2007 - 11:06am

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Ooops,

yep, looks like I forgot to update that part of the code, I'll reupload shortly.

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May 21, 2007 - 11:29am

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New,

downloads now up.

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May 22, 2007 - 8:56am

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Works just as well as the

Works just as well as the other.

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May 22, 2007 - 10:05am

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German

translations are now up.

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May 22, 2007 - 11:47am

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Cool

Who did that??? ;):lol:;)
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May 22, 2007 - 12:07pm

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OK,

you'll be in the about box in the next version!

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May 22, 2007 - 12:22pm

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Just checking

Did you get my mail or did it get lost in cyberspace?

May 22, 2007 - 1:27pm

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did, I'll send it again tomorrow morning if you still haven't received it.

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May 25, 2007 - 9:28am

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Did you

ever get this?

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May 22, 2007 - 12:35pm

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Uh could someone send this to me?

Since the files I download off of MediaFire are corrupted.

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May 22, 2007 - 1:22pm

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Done

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May 22, 2007 - 2:48pm

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Steve, can I

Mirror Toucan on a real mirror (Sourceforge.net)?

May 23, 2007 - 8:54am

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Great job, Steve I think I

Great job, Steve

I think I just found some bugs... concerning portable variables...
When trying to backup my Firefox profile using portable variables, for example, to:
Firefox Profile @date@ - @time@.zip
the resulting backup file is named like this:
Firefox Profile 2007-05- - 14-.zip

And, additionally, when trying to create my own portable variable, for example, "profile" which refers to:
C:\Documents and Settings\Guest\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
the following entry is created in Variables.ini (I think):
C:\\Documents and Settings\\Guest\\Application Data\\Mozilla\\Firefox\\Profiles\\
Notice the double backslashes! Is this normal behavior?

Because of those double backslashes, when I try to edit my "profile" variable (and just click OK), the number of backslashes will double... which is quite annoying!

Keep up the good work!!

Just one another note: I just saw now that you uploaded a new version with some bugfixes, and I haven't tested it yet... So, if you already fixed these, my bad

May 23, 2007 - 9:28am

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Right then.

so with the date and time variables you are saying they they are now returning the correct values? I just tried that myself and I can reproduce it, I'll look into that right away. As for the double backslashes, I am afraid that they will have to stay for the moment as they allow me to do my Linux compatibility more easily.

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May 23, 2007 - 12:24pm

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OK then...

OK then...
I assume that you meant incorrect values above, right? Because the values display without last 2 characters (see my previous post)...

I've been fooling around with those settings, and when you try to backup to:
Firefox Profile @date@ @ @time@.zip
the resulting backup file is named like this:
Firefox Profile 2007-05 18-.zip

That means that unpaired "@" char "ate" the last char of the @date@ string...
That's just my observation... Hope this helps...

Looking forward seeing you fix this...
Keep up the good work...

May 23, 2007 - 12:36pm

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Yes,

thats exactly what I meant, I think I have the issue tracked down but I need a little bit more time to fix it cleanly.

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May 23, 2007 - 8:05pm

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Another observation

I've been fooling a little more, following setting:
Firefox Profile @date@\@\@ @time@\@\@.zip
gives the correct (aka wanted) resulting backup file:
Firefox Profile 2007-05-24 23-54.zip

I hope this will get you more on track...

One more thing, I'm having problems downloading from mediafire.com server. Can someone upload Toucan binaries somewhere else... Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I can download DE and FR localized versions, but I can't download both english versions (paf.exe and zip version)... Can anyone confirm this?

May 23, 2007 - 9:17pm

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I can't download them

I can't download them either.

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May 24, 2007 - 3:58am

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Moved,

back to Ryans server

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May 24, 2007 - 3:59am

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Known bugs,

Portable variables are a little messed up
Some strings are not translated

Look out for a new version next week some time as I am quite busy at the moment.

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May 25, 2007 - 9:27am

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Prerelease 3,

is now out, along with some Polish translations.

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May 25, 2007 - 5:00pm

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Uh Steve? Could I host it

on Sourceforge.net. I won't modify it, except for the 7-Zip Installer icon will be Toucan's logo.

May 30, 2007 - 6:35am

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Well,

I guess that I couldn't stop you if you did! But I would prefer it if you wouldn't as I have taken John up on his offer to host it on PortableApps.

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May 26, 2007 - 4:57am

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Exclude Single File?

Sorry I don't know if it is a feature request or a bug, but it is not possible to exclude single Files...

May 26, 2007 - 9:49am

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Umm,

OK guys I seems to have messed up a bit, as some of you may have noticed in Prerelease 3 there is a whole new progress dialog for Sync, I hadn't meant to include it before 1.1 but I guess as its there I better leave it. The save button doesn't work at the moment and neither does the progress bar, but I'll try and get a new version up as soon as possible that fixes that and expands it to all of the functions (e.g. Backup and Secure).

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May 26, 2007 - 10:01am

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Help Menu

Not Showing. When I load the help menu I get a page saying the program cannot load the page.

S.O.G.

May 26, 2007 - 10:23am

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Are,

we talking about clicking on the help button here, if so it seems to work for me, does the help viewer load of not?

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May 26, 2007 - 10:44am

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Sorry

I figured it out. I had the help file on a network drive and as soon as I moved it to the computer it worked.
S.O.G.

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May 28, 2007 - 9:24am

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Prerelease 4,

has now been uploaded, it has the brand new progress dialogs. I'll send the new files to the translators in a couple of days, the old ones should be fine for now.

As some of you may have guessed I'll keep putting prereleases out until John gets back to me so we can set up an official 1.0 release.

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May 29, 2007 - 5:38am

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What a crappy app!!! ;-)

Some bugs:

I had a couple of (error 5: zugriff verweigert)-errors. Is that because they are write-protected? Its some rpm and svn data files. I can mail you the log files if you want. I tried it 2 times: One with "retain attributes" and one without. Same result both times
The other one is the progress bar. I think it is good to have one but the horizontal scroll bar moves to the right if I have a file with a long name and if I try to move it back to the left to see which folder Toucan is currently working on, it freezes up and doesn't move till the end of the process. Could be something with the window not refreshing???

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May 29, 2007 - 8:36am

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Right then,

if that's your attitude ....

1. I'm guessing this is in Sync then, you could at least say what you are doing, any chance of what the error means in English?
2. I'm already looking into this, it shouldn't be too hard to fix, he says hopefully.

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May 29, 2007 - 8:51am

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Sorry

It IS the Sync part and the error is "access denied".
Should I email you the logs?
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May 29, 2007 - 9:33am

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Sorry,

I should have been clearer, which function were you using (Update, Equalise etc) and yeah, sending the logs would be good, thanks Simeon.

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May 29, 2007 - 9:46am

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Copy

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May 29, 2007 - 2:08pm

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Steve, Been testing

Steve,

Been testing Prerelease 4 and Simeon beat me to reporting the problem with files that have their Read-only attribute flag set. I'll let you and he sort it out :-)(although happy to help if necessary)

I would be grateful if you would explain exactly what the "Sync->Other->retain attribute" check box does. The help says "The retain attributes checkbox allows you to keep the files timestamps intact through the sync operation" I don't see any difference in file timestamps between having this unchecked and checked.

I like the new progress display but would it be possible to add an abort button? There are times when one sets a transfer in motion and then realises one has screwed up and files are being sent to the wrong place.

Of course one wouldn't need that if you implemented the preview option, so much nicer to see what the program is going to do before it does it!

BTW where are you based in the UK?

Cheers,

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May 30, 2007 - 4:30am

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Are you sure

it is the read-only flag??
Cause I am not.
And I second the abort button.
It is annoying to have it freeze and you cant do anything...

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May 30, 2007 - 6:23am

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When the,

new dialog freeze, the do not stop working in the background, they still copy its just that they do not update the screen, I'm looking into that. As for the file copying issue were files being overwritten?

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May 30, 2007 - 6:46am

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I dunno.

Sorry.
But I am looking forward to PR5 and will test again.
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May 31, 2007 - 11:41am

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See my reply to Steve today

See my reply to Steve today re: read-only flag.

The reason I want an abort button isn't for the freeze situation but for when I've screwed up and files are being transfered to the 'wrong' place.

May 30, 2007 - 6:32am

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Well,

it should make sure that the timestamps on the copied files are the same as the originals, fir example if you copy a file without retain attributes on the the creation date will be the time it was copied, if retain attributes is on then it will be the time that the original file was created.

I'll put a preview window in the next release.

I'm near Bath!

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May 31, 2007 - 11:43am

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without retain attributes on

without retain attributes on the the creation date will be the time it was copied, if retain attributes is on then it will be the time that the original file was created.

So "Retain Attributes" actually means "Retain File Creation TimeStamps", right?

If so, wouldn't it be better to be more explicit on the Synch screen? File Attributes usually means the set of flags for read-only, hidden, archive, compressed and encrypted so using this term is confusing.

Self-explanatory stuff doesn't need an entry in the help file

BTW. Checking "Retain Atributes" doesn't work for files that have their read-only attribute flag set when doing a Sync>Copy to an empty destination. The file gets copied OK but a Toucan Error Dialogue box displays with the error message:
"Failed to modify file times for 'file' (error 5: access is denied)" AND
if you press the Details button there is an additional message:
"Failed to open 'file' (error 5: access is denied)"

May 29, 2007 - 5:27am

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Hey Steve

Did you know about these?:
Toucan.com
Toucan Industries.Inc
Toucan Capital Group

The second and third one have nice logos!

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May 30, 2007 - 10:31pm

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Try this for a nice toucan

Nice Toucan

May 30, 2007 - 6:17am

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Update,

Spanish translations are up thanks to Wences and arqbrulo (?). I should be uploading Prerelease 5 soon-ish with a preview pane, a scroll bar fix and hopefully a fix for the file copying problem.

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May 30, 2007 - 10:56am

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Thanks

Thanks for the recognition but I really could not help him translate it. But I will be giving him input on a few things.
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Hey! Spiritual support counts!

Your suggestions were valuable!
And besides, I'm sure with the translation of the help file you'll prove to be of much help.

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Sure thing

I'd love to help. Is there a specific file that needs to be translated or do we just start typing away in OOoP?
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June 1, 2007 - 4:41am

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Prerelease 5,

should be coming shortly, I spend a lot of time yesterday trying (unsuccessfully) to multi-thread Toucan, only to find that by adding one extra line to the source I could keep the existing code and still keep the GUI responsive, argh. The preview pane is almost done and all of the progress boxes are no nicely responsive. I have also made sure that all file attributes are copied and there have been a couple of other GUI changes. I might also have fixed that annoying file attribute bug.

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June 1, 2007 - 5:10am

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Steve, Did you miss my

Steve,

Did you miss my message to you posted yesterday at 4:43pm with subject "without retain attributes on"?

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I saw that,

by checking the box it will now also copy the read-only, hidden, archive, compressed, whatever flags along with the file modification times. If it sees that a file is read only then it wont try to set them as this causes the error.

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June 2, 2007 - 10:50am

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If it sees that a file is

If it sees that a file is read only then it wont try to set them as this causes the error.

I doesn't make sense that the read-only flag, which is just meant to protect the contents of the file, causes these problems. I guess it's a limitiation of the MS sytem calls you have to use?

Perhaps you could temporarily clear the read-only flag, then set it again after you've done copying all the other attributes?

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Good idea,

I'll do that

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June 3, 2007 - 11:08pm

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Yay... When will this be

Yay... When will this be released?? I wannnntttt ittt!!

June 4, 2007 - 7:00am

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Have patience,

I am right in the middle of exams at the moment, infact I just had one and have another in less than two hours, but it will be done by the end of the week (hopefully).

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June 4, 2007 - 10:34am

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That's right.

Have patience.

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Lol.

By 'Done by the end of the week' you mean official release? Or another pre-release?

June 5, 2007 - 6:54am

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Pre-release,

like I said somewhere I can't do an official release until John get back to me and he hasn't sent me and email in about 2 months now.

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June 5, 2007 - 7:03am

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Maybe someone should make an

Maybe someone should make an 'ATTN: John' thread somewhere...

June 5, 2007 - 7:17am

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I think,

that Ryan has. See the off topic forum.

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June 6, 2007 - 1:28am

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Make a ATTN: John in the the

Make a ATTN: John in the the Dev forum. He read it I bet.

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