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GIMP Portable 2.4.4 Pre-Release 3 (+Help +2 Bonuses) [extra testers needed for Friday final release]

The final version of GIMP Portable 2.4.4 has been released:
https://portableapps.com/news/2008-02-19_-_gimp_portable_2.4.4_released

I've just posted a pre-release of GIMP Portable 2.4.4. Here's the changelog:

  • GIMP Updated - GIMP has been updated to 2.4.4 (of course)
  • GTK Combined - GTK is now combined into the GIMP directory. GIMP's developers now bundle GTK with GIMP instead of installing it to Program Files\Common Files and have dropped support for users keeping GTK separate. This isn't too surprising, since GTK sharing in Windows has a ton of issues ("GTK Hell") so the Windows GTK apps appear to be abandoning supporting a shared GTK. So, GIMP Portable combines GTK into the GIMP directory now, the same way it works on local installs. The launcher still supports it in the gtk directory or in common files, but users who choose to go this route will be unsupported.
  • Secondary Launches Now Supported - The launcher now supports secondary launches. If you run it again, it'll bring GIMP to the foreground. If you run it again and pass it a file, it will correctly open it up in the existing GIMP instance.
  • Updated Installer - An updated installer that should correctly handle the directory changes from 2.2 to 2.4 is included as expected. It's quite a few changes, so some additional testing of upgrades would be appreciated.
  • More Than Doubled First Run Speed (Pre-Release 2) - I added in a new set of default data that allows the launcher to automatically generate a valid plugin file on first launch. This takes first launch speed on a fast flash drive from around 30 seconds to about 12.

Download GIMP Portable 2.4.4 Pre-Release 3 [17.4 MB download / ~26-67MB installed]
(may take a few minutes to be available)

I'll be adding one more interesting feature later tonight and this will hopefully be ready for release tomorrow. Sorry it's taken a bit longer than expected, but I was originally going the separate GTK route and I ended up scrapping that setup due to the complexity and the fact that the GIMP developers themselves no longer support it.

GIMP Portable Help Files Added (February 14)

I've posted an installer for the GIMP help files that automatically works with GIMP Portable. It uses the latest help files release (2.4.0) and allows you to pick and choose which help file languages to install.

Download GIMP Portable Help 2.4.0 Pre-Release 2 [63MB download / 72-112MB installed]
(may take a few minutes to be available)

BONUS: GIMP Portable Background Window (February 14)

I've also posted a bonus feature. It isn't quite ready (the GIMP Portable launcher needs a final update to portablize it), but it's a preview. It's an updated version of the GIMP Background Window plugin (aka DeWeirdifier). It allows you to have a single window that contains all the GIMP windows. It isn't perfect. It stores its settings in the HKLM registry hierarchy (so you can only use options when logged in as an admin). The GIMP windows will grow by a few pixels on each launch. And there will be some minor visual defects. But it's usable. And I find it quite handy.

This is basically the standard 2.1 release with a few changes:

  • GIMP's executable is updated to the current release from 2.2 (so it will automatically work)
  • The window says GIMP Portable (since that's what it's for)
  • It stores its settings in a different HKLM key to prevent it from messing with an existing local one if present
  • The GIMP icon was updated to the current 2.4 icon
  • (added in pre-release 2) Windows XP theming
  • (added in pre-release 2) File - Quit menu entry edited and code replaced with Help About to decrease crash risk
  • (added in pre-release 2) Improved stability

Like I said, it isn't ready for use with GIMP Portable as you move around yet as it saves to HKLM, but you can try it on your personal PC to see how it works and whether you think it's worth us having this as an option for users. If so, I'll create one for regular GIMP as well (standard HKLM and standard window title). To install it, just download the zip and unzip the files to GIMPPortable\App\gimp\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins. To uninstall, just delete the two files. (Important)When updated to Pre-Release 2, first delete the old backgroundwindow.exe and backgroundwindowhook.dll from your plugins directory.

Download GIMP Portable Background Windows 2.1.1 Pre-Release 2

BONUS #2: Photoshop-like Layout Configuration

One more small bonus. This is a sessionrc I was working on a while ago to make GIMP feel a little more like Photoshop for people that are used to it. This is a sessionrc file with the right-hand set of tools layed out similarly to Adobe Photoshop CS2. Some things had to be moved: like brushes which can't be on the top toolbar in GIMP since there is none. Some had to be combined to save space: undo is a tab off of the foreground/background section. But, I think it's handy and thought others might, too.

To install it, just copy the file to your GIMPPortable\Data\settings directory after running GIMP at least once. Please give it a try and let me know what you think.

Download Photoshop-like GIMP sessionrc 2.4.4 Pre-Release 1

To get an idea what this config file looks like in conjunction with the GIMP Portable Background Window plugin, please see this Screenshot of GIMP Portable 2.4.4 with Extras.

Please post back your comments.

Regards,
John

PRE-RELEASE 2 (Feb 13) - This fixes the bug with filters, plugins, etc not showing up (working directory issue). I also added in the fix for removing translations on reinstall. And I added a feature to dramatically improve first run speed. For folks with PR1 on slow connections, I also zipped up the changed files for you. Just add that onto PR1 and remove the Setup directory in GIMPPortable\App\GIMP.

HELP PRE-RELEASE 2 (Feb 14) - I updated the help file to pre-release 2. This fixes some string errors with new lines in the description, adds in an indicator that English is included by default and moves the descriptions around to make the component selection window easier for users.

GIMP PORTABLE PRE-RELEASE 3 (Feb 14) - This release adds in the portablization of the GIMP Portable Background Window mentioned above. Be sure you're using the newer Pre-Release 2 of the plugin and delete the old version first. The installer was also updated to be clearer that English is installed by default.

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thanks john will test

thanks john
I will test it

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Bugs...

Updated and ran fine, however I'm finding a few bugs. So far in the open dialog if "all images" are displayed, it finds no images even if there are some in the directory you're browsing. Also if you change to all files and highlight an image, then click to preview, it always fails to create a preview. If you try to open an image, it fails, saying "unknown file type". This sounds to me like image extensions may not be registered properly?

Also confirmed that this same behavior occurs in a non-update install.

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Nice.

I was wondering when 2.4.x would be made portable. I'll test Pre-Release 2.

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Missing LOTS of menus

I'm comparing this to my X-GIMP install of version 2.4.2.
I've confirmed the bugs from rayven01, but I noticed that perhaps 20% to 30% of the menu items are just not there. I'm compiling a list: should I post it?

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I'm answering my own question :-)

The missing menus thing feels like a really low-level bug, so hopefully this list will help JTH debug:

Main GIMP Window:
Acquire menu:
Paste as new (incorrect), Missing links to scanner, camera
Xtns menu:
Missing almost the entire menu, including Plug-in Browser, Script-fu, logos, buttons, etc,

Image Window:
File menu:
Missing "Acquire"
Edit menu:
Missing "Units"
Selection menu:
Missing "Distort" and "Rounded Rectangle"
Missing "Mode>Assign Color Profile"
Missing "Mode>Convert to Color Profile"
Missing "Transform>Guillotine"
Missing "Autocrop Image", "Zealous Crop", "Align Visible Layers"
Missing "Guides" submenu
Layer Menu
Missing "Stack>Reverse Layer Order"
Missing "Transparency>Color to Alpha"
Missing "Transparency>Semi-flatten"
Missing "Transparency>Threshold Alpha"
Missing "Autocrop Layer"
Colors menu
Missing too numerous to mention
Filters
Missing everything - and this is the menu that has ALL the good toys!

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Ufraw?

I assume that UFraw is not included. Can UFraw be included? Ufraw is not easily added to the portable version. I can add it for myself, but it may not be easy for others.

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Awesome

Simply awesome. This is the 2nd most important portable app for me (first being Mozilla). I've been eagerly awaiting this, but trying to not pester about it because I know everything takes time. Thanks for getting this out. I'll test it when I have a bit of time and see if I can offer feedback if there are any problems.

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Pre-Release 2

I've posted pre-release 2. This fixes the known bugs (filters/plugins not showing up, translations not removed on reinstall) and adds in a handy new feature that dramatically improves first launch speed. Details in the main topic.

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Looks good so far

Thanks, John, that fixed all the bugs.
Also, better than the X-Gimp version in a few ways: X-Gimp keeps forgetting the custom folders I add in the Open File dialog when I close the app, but this one works fine.

I'd have to stress it to squeeze out any more bugs, if they exist, but this looks OK so far.

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Gimp Portable Help files

Semi off-topic...

From somewhere in the past I downloaded a GIMP Portable Help paf file that had all the help docs in it and installed in the correct directory to work with GIMPPortable. I can't re-find this doc so I'm not sure I got it from this website. Is it possible to re-package the help files for v2.4.4 as another download and make it available here "officially"?

I can do it if need be.

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Here it is..

https://portableapps.com/node/9849#comment-54572

Edit: online helppage says they´re still updating the documentation. Up to now it´s only available for gimp 2.2.

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Coming

The updated help files installer is being posted along with the release.

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good stuff

Thanx for the update and the link showing I'm not totally crazy. Wink

People totally inept with graphics programs (like myself) appreciate having the help files.

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Great!

It loads extremely fast compared to the previous version, and it seems as though all the menu items are there now too

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I know eh!

Like, FAST FAST. Smile It's exciting.

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Runs great + Installer Bug?

It is running great to my idea. I didn't test it a lot but it is fast.

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Windows Vista pt-PT with all updates:

The installer process, after closing GIMP Portable Install with a successful install, keeps running, blocking the file from being moved or deleted. But, after a second install, this time to the hard drive, it didn't left any process running on the Task Manager (I suspect from a freeze on PAM after install).

Probably a isolated case, but it is better to prevent.

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PortableApps.comInstallerMulti

I notice the new multi-language installer in this release.. sweet! I should be able to drop that into GnuCash Portable relatively smoothly.

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Not Language

It's actually for multiple options (GIMP has the translations as optional). The multilingual installer isn't done yet and is on hold until all apps are updated and 1.1 is out.

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Yeah

I figured that out once I took a closer look. Regardless, it's just what I need for GnuCash since it uses locales just like GIMP. With locale files gone GnuCash Portable is now a svelte 100MB. Ok, not so svelte, but much less than the 200+ it started as!

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Cool

You get how the setup works? Have a GnuCashPortableOptional1 directory alongside the main one with the files you want to include as the optional section. Same directory layout. In GIMP's case it's just the App\gimp\share\locale directory. I also do a secondary appinfo.ini and help.html in that directory with "(Multilingual)" after the version in help and displayversion in appinfo.ini. Post an update to GnuCash and I'll double check it for ya Smile

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Yep

Already have it working. Planning on posting Dev Test 4 later this afternoon.

I'll add the appinfo & help changes.

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Help Files and Bonus Plugin Added

I've added a pre-release of the help files installer. It's much more advanced than before (you can pick individual languages).

I also added a bonus feature: an update of the GIMP Background Window plugin. It may be worthwhile, it may not for some, but I thought I'd post it for people to try out.

Full details are in the main post. Please try out the new bits and post your feedback.

Thanks,
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Great stuff!

especially the new installer with the new calulator for the additional stuff is great.

Should I create a OOoPortable Installer with optional components on this base as we have talk about it or do You work on it too?

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Nope

This installer actually can't properly calculate upgrades. Plus, it's a simple raw one... it doesn't use translatable strings, etc. And it needs to be actually recoded for each additional option that's added. That's why it's not going to be an official one or used on any actual apps. The help files are minor enough that we can get away with it, I think. Consider it an experiment Smile

Installers like this have been possible all along... but if we went this route, we'd have to custom write installers for every app, which isn't the way we want to go. The PortableApps.com Installer is moving toward an easy to use setup that won't require any coding by app packagers unless they want to do some more advanced stuff (which exists in the PRE/POST tags in the current installers).

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OK.

In this case I think we should think about the other idea.

I'll create a new version of the 'OptionPack' for anvanced users.

I've found a simple way to detect if an Option is still installed or not an then preselect the radiobuttons dependig on it ;-).

If (for example) python is not installed, simply check the radiobutton and it will be installed or if it still exists uncheck it and it will be removed.

On the finish page a little summary will be shown telling the user whats happened (nothing if teh state of no button is changed or which options are added or removed).

So we will have an easy (and secure)way to add and remove additional stuff.

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One More Bonus: Photoshopish Layout

I just added in a photoshop-like configuration file. It's not quite complete, but it's a start for people who like Photoshop's layout better.

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Help + Bonuses+

Thanks again.
The Help files work fine, but they may be too big for some with smaller flash drives.

I'm a GIMP user from way back, and I've tried the Background plugin when it was called the Deweirdifyer. The version you have posted is much more stable.

Also, never used Photoshop, but your sessionrc file is a good example of how customizable the GIMP main window is.

Finally, the main app looks like it's good to go - I haven't found any more bugs.

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Cool

runs fine. The first start was slow but the second one was lightning-fast.
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help file question/comment

Do you think average users will "figure out" that English is the default language? It's not in the pick list and there's no "warm fuzzy" text to let the average user know that English will be the default if no other language is chosen and installed.

I'm putting myself in Joe Bag-O'Donuts' shoes here, but you could argue the other way that if a user is smart enough to user GIMP Portable, they're smart enough to figure out the Help file installer. Wink It's just an observation...

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Good point

Good point, I've added it in pre-release 2 Smile

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n1

The greyed-out pre-checked checkbox and (Required) for English work out perfect IMO. I like it. Smile

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Great Bonuses!

I love both the bonuses! Basically the functionality of GIMPshop without being forever several versions behind.

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Exactly

That was kinda the goal with the bonuses since GIMPShop has been abandoned.

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Help Pre-Release 2 Posted

I've updated the help installer to pre-release 2 with some polishing. See the main topic for details.

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WOW!

Thanks John,

I will give this a try! I only hope it won't stuff up when I decide to use keyboard shortcuts (I posted this problem in the GIMP Portable forum called GIMP Portable Freezes When Using Keyboard Shortcuts). In fact, that'll be the first thing I'll be testing and if it still does it, I'll inform you. I'll test GIMP Portable before adding any of the other stuff, just in case I get disappointed.

Thanks again!

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Pre-Release 3 is up and away

I've just posted Pre-Release 3. This adds in the ability to portablize the GIMP Portable Background plugin mentioned above. A new version of the plugin is available as well with some improved features. The actual plugin file has also been renamed, so be sure you're using the Pre-Release 2 of the plugin now. The installer also makes it clearer that the english version of GIMP is installed by default (and required).

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HKLM plugin

John,

I haven't had a chance to look at the source yet, but is there any way to cause the background window plugin to write to HKCU instead of HKLM either through direct modification of the plugin or using the launcher?

Just a thought, since not having admin priv's is what makes PortableApps so cool!

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Screenshot Added

I added a Screenshot of GIMP 2.4.4 with extras to show folks what's possible with the GIMP Portable Background plugin and Photoshop-like config file added.

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Gool to see the background

Gool to see the background image. But does it really need to contain PortableApps.com in the titlebar?

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Who cares if it says

Who cares if it says PortableApps.com? It doesnt change how it works. and actually it probably should contain it, because it sounds like John modified it so it actually worked.

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PortableApps.com is a

PortableApps.com is a registered trademark.

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yes it is, and John T.

yes it is, and John T. Haller (the person the trademark is registered to) is the one that put it in there.

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Great!

Thanks John. After learning Photoshop at school, I like the layout better (seems more logical). The background and config file make it work great for me, I should be using GIMP more often now. I've done a clean install with both bonuses, and all it works well. Oh, I lied, I just opened the 'GIMP Portable - Po..." window again and now there's this empty 'Open Image' window nothing in it, and it froze GIMP.

I'll try it for a bit more. But that's only the plugin I belive, so really no worries.

Edit: Just have to say, even with the problems I had with the plugin below, I absolutely love the background and Photoshop style, I'll really use GIMP so much more now. Smile

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Plugin Errors

I'm having some problems with the background plugin.

First off, I had GIMP sitting for a while, (memory was still fine) and I checked back 'bout 30 minutes later and I got this problem. I've had that multiple times now, and I notice it happens when you try to his the background window resize button. Closing that 'Open Image' window won't work, but clicking to close the main GIMP will, however.

Also, for the background, pressing the close button won't work. Is it supposed to be, or should it close from pressing the close button, too?

I just tested now, and I only get that 'Open Image' window which paints the image underneath it and the other windows inside it, when an image is open (makes sense :P)

This is a fresh install of GIMP Portable 2.4.4 Pre-Release 3 for the record. Plugin in the appropriate place, using the sessionrc file as well.

I guess it's also noteworthy that I tried a fresh install with a fresh plugin install and same errors.

Oh, and is there any reason why the entry to change the GIMP background window name under Options -> Setup is still there since it's overruled by GIMP Portable - PortableApps.com?

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No luck.

Well, after leaving my last comment, I went and downloaded the latest GIMP at the time, and I installed it, but when I went to type in the text box for adding words to the picture, the error I explained in GIMP Portable Freezes When Using Keyboard Shortcuts (in the GIMP Portable forum) still happens.

I tried putting the background program on and that didn't even help at all, the message still came up, but I think that's mainly GIMP that does it. I've even tried installing the normal GIMP program from www.gimp.org on my computer and it still comes up when using that. I fear I'll probably never get to use GIMP or GIMP Portable. I joined up to the GIMP User Group (GUG) to try and solve this problem, but my post didn't even go on there, so I tried unsubscribing from them and found that my unsubscribe emails are blocked by SpamAssassin, therefore I can't even unsubscribe from it.

I'll still keep getting any new version of GIMP Portable just in case, but I doubt it'll do anything. I didn't install the help files because it would have been very disapointing not being able to access GIMP anyway.

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problems downloading Photoshop-like Layout Configuration plug-in

I've tested GIMP portable and the help file and they both run without any problem it all, however I had a problem downloading the Photoshop-like Layout Configuration plug-in.

When I tried to download it it just opened up what appears to be a text file with script in it.

Normally in a situation like this I would just right click the link and do a `Save link as...` but since I`m not too familiar with gimp plug-ins, I`m not sure what file name or extension would be appropriate.

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the plugin

will default to having a .txt extension when you right click and save it. Once it's saved, just right click and rename it without the extension. The filename should be sessionrc with no file extension.

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thanks for the info

mine always saved it as html and I wondered why I couldn't see any difference Smile

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Thanks for the help

Thanks for the help

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Cool

I tried a clean install and it works great and leaves nothing.
And I really love fast second start. The first start took very long. It seemed to hang while processing the fonts. But maybe thats the weird setup they have here with network drives.

One thing is that I have problems with the background plugin.
None of the buttons seem to work. Not even the close button (same problem Patrick already reported). If I hit "File" - "Use FILE - QUIT from the main GIMP window to exit" the copyright pops up.

And the Help files installer has a typo: If I move my mouse over the german checkbox, it says the same text as the english box.

EDIT

I just had an idea. I am having restricted rights so Gimp cant access HKLM. Could that be the reason for the background-plugin-buttons not working correctly?

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Background Plugin is Buggy

The background plugin has several known bugs that can't yet be fixed. The reason FILE - EXIT says to use FILE - QUIT from the main GIMP window is because that's what you have to do. And I remapped it to show the help file because its attempt to close GIMP would fail and them it would crash when you exit. For the same reason, you can't use the close button in the corner. You must use FILE - QUIT from the regular GIMP window to close.

Additionally, you can't resize the GIMP background window and then do a FILE OPEN. The FILE OPEN window will get stuck shown with repainting errors. To fix it, you need to restart GIMP. If the window is in the way, just move it and then do FILE - QUIT from the main GIMP window.

A warning and a list of these errors will be posted with the bg plugin.

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Would calling Gimp with

Would calling Gimp with parameter work on running gimp or does it start a new one:
-b '(gimp-quit 0)'

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PR 3 Looks Good

No bugs that I can see. I was so ready for this version. Thanks John.

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Looks OK

I made a deeper try. Nothing of too serious. I tried each toolbar tool, and 1 or 2 randomly chosen filters.
Trough COMODO Malware detector, that annoys me with each most small procedure of an app, I saw that none registry keys where written. I didn't tried it with neither Help files, neither the background window (by the way, the background window is really buggy).

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Occasional Crash upon closing after log uptime

I've got PR 2, and I'm not using Background or the sessionRC. All works fine, and I haven't lost any data, but at least 3 times after using GIMP heavily, and then closing it, I get an error from Windows saying that the program has closed unexpectedly.
This show up a few seconds AFTER the app is closed.
It doesn't seem to hurt anything, and it's so sporadic it's hard to recreate, but I figured I'd let you know.

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Occasional crash...

I occasionally see the same thing running the installed version. W2K, 1G memory

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