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Site Upgrade Status: Drupal 6 (2008-05-17)

The site is back up after the Drupal 6 upgrade, but it will be slow while the cache and search indexes are rebuilt. The forums, in particular, will be quite slow. A couple things are disabled (forum stats, for instance) and a couple things will look visually odd for a bit (recent posts, table headers, page links), but these things should be resolved later today.

Sadly, Views seems unable to filter out an individual forum in its current form due to a bug so we're stuck seeing Off-Topic posts in the tracker. If folks who like to chat in there could please ease up on it until we get this resolved, it will be much appreciated.

Smileys may be out for a while... turns out that module hasn't been updated. And MarkAsRead only works on the main Forum page... not in the tracker (our tracker is a view, maybe that's it).

Please make a post about anything else.

Very tired. It's 5:37am. I need sleep.

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Please don't re-report any of the following. They're known and being fixed, if possible. Smile

NEW FEATURES:
- Moderators now have the ability to edit/delete forum topics as well as comments... so we now have real forum mods Smile

FIXED:
- Sort icons removed from table headers in tracker
- Tracker font size back to small
- Forum icons back to custom ones
- RSS feed on homepage working
- Create content back in navigation menu
- My blog back in navigation menu
- Users can now edit their signatures again
- Mark As Read on Tracker (added it as a block myself)
- Forum Statistics
- Recent Posts Tracker ALL Fixed: 'Updated' next to unchanged forum topics with new comments, no last poster listed, Off Topic posts appear in recent posts
- Next, Last page links are black
- Forum main page loading very slowly at times
- Forum main page loading very slowly at times
- Forum icons line up better with forum names on main page and subpages
- Tracker: My Recent Posts added
- Development Test page is now striped and sortable again

WORKING ON IT:
- Post comment/topic buttons are now 'Save'

NO FIX RIGHT NOW:
- Smileys: The module has not yet been updated for Drupal 6 aside from an unstable dev release (which we won't use since it impacts every page on the site)
- Recent Posts Tracker: "Last Poster" displays the last person to post by the order of the posts displayed on the post page instead of the last person to post by time. This is due to a bug in the Drupal Views module.

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Congratulations

John! And go to bed! I shall be looking forward to all the new bits and pieces that Drupal 6 will give us, especially improved performance Smile

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Just wanted to say thank you.

Just wanted to say thank you. I will be looking forward to the changes. Also eager for the release of the new Platform, future PortableApps and other such upgrades with will be coming. Keep the work up! Many of us are more thankful than you may realize.

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bit of criticism already,

bit of criticism already, sadly. why are the numbers down the bottom so far apart? and why are they black? and why does the post button now say Save?

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List of problems:

Because I know you'll love waking up to this list Blum

  • Pagination links on the tracker are styled black instead of red
  • Smileys missing (noted in post)
  • Sort buttons on tracker look rather odd
  • Probably more later...

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RSS feed off the homepage is

RSS feed off the homepage is also currently out of action. Obviously you know this already, but thought I might mention it (just in case...)

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Congratulations John

Just wanted to say that:

  • Wohoo!!! From the tracker, it now jumps to the correct page when I click on "new"!!
  • the icons went back to the old style.
  • Under my account name on the left side, I used to have 5 items listed (My Account, Create Content, Recent Posts, Logout and I think My Blog). Now its only 3 (My Account, Recent Posts and Log Out).
  • The tracker always shows an "updated" thing after someone made a new post and not only after the author changed the main topic.
  • I think the old forum page was without enveloppe icons.
  • The tracker doesnt show who made the last post
  • I think its time for a new status update...

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"From the tracker, it now

"From the tracker, it now jumps to the correct page when I click on "new"

This Does Not appear to be the case for me!
It worked when the "new" was on page 1 NOT when the "new" was on page 2 Wink

I don't think this would be a bug as this is how it was before.

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oh

I know it isnt a bug. I just had it happen one time that I found myself on the second page with a post marked as new. Maybe it was pure luck... Smile

EDIT

It happened again! So its either my lucky day or John planned it Smile

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Doesn't

work for me either, sounds like you are special to me Simeon Wink

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works for ...

me! I've only tried it on the page, "My Recent Posts" and clicked on the red "New" link.
It also worked when I was on the "Recent Posts" page.

Brought me to the oldest unread post in a thread.

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Sigs

"Please make a post about anything else."

Ability to change signature seems to be missing.

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Comments

"Comments" is missing from Navigation Menu.
(I believe this is Moderator's Only feature)

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Yeah

it would be nice to have it back, especially because it showed comments marked as unpublished by the spam module and allowed you to republish them Smile

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Oh

and not so much a bug as a question, but are the mods still in line for some new features?

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Yes, but

They are. That's one of the reasons we wanted to upgrade. Real forum moderators (including forum posts), polls, wikis, better performance and more. But we won't be touching that until the site is at least back to the level it was at on Drupal 5.7. This is by far the worst Drupal upgrade we've undergone and it may take a few days to sort things out. I spent all of today manually checking over primary keys and indexes in the database to add the ones in that didn't work right and remove the outdated ones... and there were several. This after spending 5 hours just getting the site back online last night. At least we didn't lose any data and the site is online.

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Excellent

thanks for the explanation, just another thought it would probably be worth ensuring the new rights are up before the 1.1 release as I expect there will be an influx of double posting new users!

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It's In!

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm busting my ass this weekend to get the Drupal 6 upgrade done before the release.

I've added in the forum mod privs... they should be working right now.

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Sorting

Sorting does not seem to be working in:
https://portableapps.com/development/test

Yes, I have JavaScript turned On and Yes the site is Allowed in NoScript Blum

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4oh4?

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another q: OpenID. will you

another q: OpenID. will you implement it? its already supported in drupal 6, but will you get around to adding it into the logon?

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Fixed

The new Drupal uses the old path for reserved JS caching, so it deleted the file. I've added it in a new location. If you're logged in, it works now. If not, wait 15 mins.

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Mark as read

John,

I think that you missed some of my content at http://chrismorgan.info/development/drupal/modules/markasread/6. To get the tracker buttons, you need the following two files in the active theme directory (sites/all/themes/portableapps2). Then it should work properly.
If you use views for your tracker, could you please post the conditions, etc. so that I can see if I can add it some other way. In the meantime, while you're using a block, you should be using the PHP code instead of the HTML code - [php removed] If you are using the HTML, remove the "type" input field, and change the text, then it'll do all content.

Glad to see you got the rest sorted, though!

Also, the German front page (https://portableapps.com/de) has the theme messed up in some way. I'm not sure if the text is right - I can't read German!

P.S.: Do you want me to look at the Smileys module, or will you just wait for them to make an official release on the 6.x platform? (I presume that you are using http://drupal.org/project/smileys, which only has a 6.x-1/x release, marked as possibly unstable).

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It is messed up because its a Forum page Marko (or John) "upgraded" to be a book page. So the 2 Layouts kinda collide. But it should definitely integrate better and have a link to it on the main page.

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Soon

One of the reasons for the Drupal 6 upgrade is better localization support. Now we won't have to create extra nodes for translations. We'll be keying them from the main nodes.

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MarkAsRead HTML

The PHP code you mentioned just kills the page (causes an error, so it's blank). I'm leaving it as HTML for now.

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Just a

couple more things Wink With the new blogs link in the user box are they going to get a bit of promotion, it is pretty hopeless to blog at the moment as no one reads them! The other thing was are me going to get a staff or bio page soon with all of the mods and developers listed?

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Yes and Yes

Blogs will be added to the Recent Posts tracker as well. So, yes, they will be promoted more to everyone Smile There will be a blog landing page, too. It's up already but there's not yet custom styling and boxes on the side for other bloggy stuff Smile
https://portableapps.com/blogs

The About Us page is going to add mods, devs and translators Smile

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Now.

Can you add the open id support?

it comes with durpal 6. its in the addons or moduals section i forgot witch.

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No

Job #1 is: Get the site working back to the way it was.

At some point in the future we will investigate OpenID support. But we'll probably do what SF did and only support certain major providers to prevent abuse... otherwise we'll probably get spammed to death.

We'll focus on getting everything to 100% and then getting the important stuff implemented (real forum moderators, improved performance, wikis, polls, etc) before we look at stuff like OpenID which isn't that important right now (not many people use it or know what it is yet).

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Nope.

SourceForge accepts any provider. I know because I host my own OpenID provider and it works for me.

If you're only going to allow major providers, don't bother. OpenID was designed to be a decentralised platform. Making it anything other than this is completely pointless and goes against everything OpenID stands for.

Also, OpenID is no defence against spam and it shouldn't be. It was never designed to be a defence against spam.

Further reading: OpenID and Spam

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It Does?

Huh, I thought it didn't with the little icons for Yahoo and AOL there.

Well, I guess it bears some further investigation, then.

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Yep.

It sure does. The icons are just there to increase the usability for users that might not even realise they have OpenIDs.

Further notes: ID Selector

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Yes!

Thank you for at least investigating it Smile
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weired

This page got moved from the Development to the Beta Testing Forum but both beta and development show up in the tracker. Maybe thats not due to the update but I still think only one should show.

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No, someone mentioned that it was moved Smile

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I know

that it was moved but why do both show up in the tracker?

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Moved Wrong

Whoever moved it left the 'shadow copy' box checked. I fixed it.

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Performance Better?

It looks like the search indexing has completed. Forums main page and the Tracker seem to be working better as a result. What say ye?

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I've noticed an improvement

I've noticed an improvement with the forms using several different pc's (work and home) in the past day or so.

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Forums Stats / Mods

Forum stats are back on thanks to some new custom PHP. And our forum moderators are now true moderators so they can edit/delete comments and forum topics Smile

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Recent Posts/Tracker Fixed!

The recent posts (tracker) page is now working as before in terms of fields and not showing the offline forum.
https://portableapps.com/tracker

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Last Unfixed

For the record, I can live without graphical smileys. Smile I hate them to death recently. I just like plain ASCII. I'm sure others like their graphical smileys though. Smile

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I agree!

Graphical smileys are different wherever you go and sometimes look nothing like what you were trying to convey with the text smiley you typed in. Text is text wherever you go, I much prefer it.

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Reply to comment?

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but it's tripped me out a few times personally. I think before it just had the site name, but now when adding a comment on a post, or replying to a comment, it says Reply to comment | PortableApps.com - Po... I personally find it confusing and think maybe I hit reply on a comment instead of Add new comment. Maybe if it's not to hard it could be changed to something like Reply or even Comment? But Reply TO comment is confusing personally.

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Um, what?

Um, what? I think it's always said that.

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Hmm

I could swear it just had the site name, because I'd always have tabs that say PortableApps.com... and I'd wonder why I'm at the PortableApps.com home page, and not the Forums | Porta.... Personally, I don't remember it at all. Maybe it's just me.

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Forum Speed / Page Links

Since the forum page has been consistently fast since the site finished indexing for search, I'm gonna call this fixed.

And I fixed the next/last page links to be red.

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Thanks

Everything looks normal (= the way it was) now. One minor thing is that on the tracker page, the forums aren't clickable. I think they were before and I think its convenient because you can jump to a specific forum very fast.
And the button still says "Save" but actually I like it better than "Reply".

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On Purpose

The Views module has a bug in linking the forum names. It links to the taxonomy term rather than the forum and you end up lost in a non-existent area of the site.

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My recent posts link missed on the tracker ...

As logged in user there was a 'my recent posts' button next to the recent posts button. Now its gone Sad

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Back

It just links to the standard user page's tracker... but at least it's back.

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I found something

All forum pages which are a subforum of the /forum/ have the icon sitting under the text of the sub forum title:
https://portableapps.com/forums/general
https://portableapps.com/forums/development
https://portableapps.com/forums/support
https://portableapps.com/forums/other_languages
https://portableapps.com/forums/other

I hope I made myself clear enough. I reached the borders of my english on this one Smile

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Fixed

It's fixed. The icons are off a couple pixels between forums with and without a description, but the overlaps are good.

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Title update

I just updated the german Firefox RC1 page and in the left navigation it still shows the title of the old page (3 Beta 5). It used to update the link if I changed the title but it doesn't anymore.

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em (italics) tags

Something's up with the em tags. They're not carrying through in the beta testing posts (for example) to the closing tag, only active for one paragraph.

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auto-closed

Drupal 6 auto-closes unclosed tags now. And leaving an EM tag open between paragraphs is invalid HTML... so it closes them for you.

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CODE Did

I know the CODE tag always did. It really bugged me. Blum

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Moderators

The new moderator styling in the forums looks better to me. Also, may have always been like this, but the development header on the main forum page is slightly taller than the others.

Edit: Also, I believe Marko's noted before that he'd like his username changed which might be ideal now as you have his name listed on the forum page for moderators. He needs this account with his name deleted as he created it a couple months ago when he had an error with his other account or something.

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Capitalisation.

Can we get "posts" on the tracker capitalised? Please? Smile

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Done

Done Smile

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seems to me that the links to comments within other posts

don´t work with big posts(> 1 page)
e.g.:
https://portableapps.com/node/12722#comment-81279
https://portableapps.com/node/13285#comment-83746

didn´t find anything on that reading the post, else just forget about that...

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SimpleNews

so, when's the SimpleNews module be activated? Or is it because it's still a beta?

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Smileys

I checked out the Smileys, they don't work. Too bad...

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Just an idea, but how about

Just an idea, but how about adding a "back to top" type link, especially for the topics that get pretty long pages?

Yeah, I'm the quiet one....

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