Hi, first time poster, however I'm a pretty long time user of portableapps. I was wondering if the apps can be executed from an SDHC card on a PDA, such as the iPaq 3835 which I own. I believe it is a windows based os, but still who knows if it'd work. I'd like to get some firefox/thunderbird running on it, and for my portable devices this has always been my first place to look. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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You can put the applications from this site on an SD card that you use in a PDA, but you cannot execute the applications from WinCE, Windows Mobile, or related non-X86 versions of "Windows". The use of "Windows" in the names of these different operating systems is just MicroSoft branding, not compatibility. You will find it easier to run these applications from Linux.
Windows Mobile (aka Pocket PC) is not Windows. Windows refers to real Windows operating systems (Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 2008, etc). Windows Mobile is Windows in name and appearance only. You can't run Windows software on Windows Mobile, you can only run Windows Mobile software. The naming and the subsequent confusion with people thinking they can run their regular software on it appears to have been intentional.
For the record, you can not run Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice.org, Pidgin, AbiWord or any other Windows software on Windows Mobile.
Sometimes, the impossible can become possible, if you're awesome!
RE: "...refers to real Windows operating systems..."
...that is, to the degree that any Windows OS can be said to be "real" - when not used in the same sentence as expressions such as "buggy", lame", PiA", and so forth...
I just upgraded to a PDA smartphone recently (Sprint HTC Mogul), and am already encountering significant amts of hassle due to the above-referenced M$ dynamic...
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RE: "Windows Mobile is Windows in name and appearance only...The naming and the subsequent confusion...appears to have been intentional."
No doubt.
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RE: "For the record, you can not run Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice.org, Pidgin, AbiWord or any other Windows software on Windows Mobile."
Amen to that. However, there are an increasing number of ports of Win sfwr to ppc OS format, as the use of smartphones increases. Last nite, IDL'd and installed the Firefox port, known as "Minimo"
Have been having struggles getting Opera port ("Opera Mini" browser) to install correctly (curse, you, Java!)
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
It's pretty bold to come to a forum where Microsoft Windows is the only supported format and start talking crap. If you knew anything about your new phone you'd know that usually it's your phone company's screw up (they're the ones who configured and customized your Windows Mobile OS to meet their needs, not yours) that makes your Windows Mobile act funny. You hold in your hand the most customizable user friendly mobile device on the market so stop complaining. If it was so buggy and lame why did you buy it? Also, Minimo is not a Firefox port. It stands for Mini Mozilla and has been an abandoned project for some time now...
..."to come to a forum where Microsoft Windows is the only supported format and start talking crap."
Like any preacher worth his salt, I can be pretty bold at times.
And, like many Win users, Windows is for me "the OS you love to hate". I see so many satisfied Linux and Mac users out there who haven't had to endure half the grief I've encountered with Windows over the years, it's quite galling.
I find myself saying "Why can't Redmond do what the other OS's do and design a fairly bug-free OS in the FIRST place?"
Then it dawns on me that M$ is the proverbial 800-lb gorilla, and I remember what a fallen world indeed we inhabit..
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"you'd know that usually it's your phone company's screw up "
I'm no fan of Sprint's service, either, but I've stuck with 'em all these years for one sole reason: They offer the cheapest package price for the fairly minimal usage of the phone that I've had over all that time...
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"You hold in your hand the most customizable user friendly mobile device on the market"
Yes, I know (that's one of the reasons why I bought it)
But why should that stop one from dreaming of "what might have been", and grinding one's teeth when one encounters "mobile" versions of M$'s well-known "desktop" deficiencies?...
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"If it was so buggy and lame why did you buy it?"
See above items.
Plus, more software variety available for ppc than for other platforms, such as Blackberry, Palm, etc....
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"Also, Minimo is not a Firefox port. It stands for Mini Mozilla and has been an abandoned project for some time now..."
FFox is merely an intentionally stripped-down Mozilla browser.
Which makes minimo what?...
...That's right - a stripped down "mobile" version of Firefox.
Meh, semantics................
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
"FFox is merely an intentionally stripped-down Mozilla browser.
Which makes minimo what?...
...That's right - a stripped down "mobile" version of Firefox."
That is a complete load of crap...
Mozilla is working on Firefox Mobile. Minimo was a horrible attempt at porting a Mozilla based browser to Windows Mobile. There are a TON of Mozilla based web browsers around, but that doesn't make them all Firefox as you allude to in your above statement.
YSW.
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RE: "Mozilla is working on Firefox Mobile"
Good. I'll be looking forward to it.
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RE: "Minimo was a horrible attempt at porting a Mozilla based browser to Windows Mobile. "
Yes, and it was attempted by who?..
That's right, by the Mozilla folk their own selves (The searching that I did before finding Minimo pointed me to a Mozilla page which announced that they were ceasing development on Minimo).
Which makes Minimo a brother at least to Firefox, or more aptly, it's now-deceased child.
(Unlike the "TON" of others you allude to, which were not necessarily put out by the Mozilla folk at all...).
"I don't hate cats...as long as they stay on the freeway, where they belong."
- Brad Stine
Kinda. They're all based around Gecko. That includes Seamonkey, Mozilla, Firefox, Camino, and, yes, Minimo. They're all siblings. They're only modified in the UI or functionality aspect, not in the browser aspect. The only difference, obviously, that different versions of Gecko are used (e.g. Firefox 3 uses a later version of Gecko than does Firefox 2).
So, Rob (Preacher) was right.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook
So Minimo is worst than Pocket IE?
NO. Anything is better than ANY version of IE whether it be Pocket version or desktop version
iLike Macs, iPwn, However you put it... Apple is better ^_^
"Claiming that your operating system is the best in the world because more people use it is like saying McDonalds makes the best food in the world..."
You're wrong on this one. lol
Minimo is horrible compared to PIE imo.
Barring any objections, I'm tossing this thread into off topic as well since it's just a discussion about Windows Mobile and not portable apps.
Sometimes, the impossible can become possible, if you're awesome!