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Xenon File Manager Portable 1.5 Pre-Release 5

Application: Xenon File Manager
Category: Utilities
Description: Xenon File Manager is a tabbed file manager that is designed for portable usage. It carries file assocations with you so you can open your documents by double clicking.

Download Xenon File Manager Portable 1.5 Pre-Release 5 [1.57MB download / 2.54MB installed]
(MD5: 27e36d178bf32cf6e6e0cdb842aef12f)

Release Notes:
Pre Release 5: Added Russian translation, fixed some minor folders bugs, and made bookmarks work on non-xenon drives.
Pre Release 4: Fixed a bug and the help file.
Pre Release 3: Fixed more bugs.
Pre Release 2: Fixed some bugs.
Pre Release 1: Added Japanese translation, fixed a few minor bugs.

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Yay!

A lot faster than before.
Can't wait for this to come out :D:D!

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Trying it now

I am trying it now, at the afternoon (GTM) I will give some info as now I am at school.

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Will download and try it on

Will download and try it on the 15th when I finally move to my new house and get connected to high speed internet Smile

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Small bug

The X which closes the tab became bigger when I resized the window.
Also, a hover effect for it would be really nice (Just make it a little lighter). Hover effects makes it a lot easier to click on something.

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Folder Bug

The bug where the folder pane is blank is still occuring. If you fire up a new copy of Xenon and click View - Show Folders without clicking on a folder or file first, the folder pane comes up blank. If you click on any folder and then hit refresh, it'll show up.

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??? I fixed that. Somehow I

??? I fixed that. Somehow I forgot to recompile it.

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PR2 is out.

PR2 is out.

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Polish Notes

Ok, we need a few polish bits that I can see...

1. The splash screen is stretching the JPG. Probably because we removed the outline so it's 2 pixels shorter in length and width. Just a quick change in the code will fix that.

2. The PortableApps.com Default Theme could use a better close icon. I like the one I'd suggested. So, I've made it into an ICO for you. Just add it in.
https://portableapps.com/downloads/app_extras/xenon/closetab.ico

3. As mentioned above, the close icon stretches and distorts if you maximize the Xenon window.

4. We need to add a default help file to the root directory. You can use the PortableApps.com template from the others. You could actually place that in the Xenon directory and have the root one be a simple Javascript redirect to it if you want.

5. About the shellexecute... would it be easier for you if we did it as calling the executable specified by %PortableApps.comShellExecute% with three parameters? I'm thinking: open "X:\Path To File\File Name.extension" errorifnotdefined in Xenon's case. Would that work for you?

6. Also, don't forget to update the version in Help - About.

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I think the PAShellExec

I think the PAShellExec parameters are OK. It would return a 1 exit code if it couldn't find it correct?

I think for secondary extensions (aka "Start" or Alt+Enter) I will have the PAShellExec be attempted last after trying the primary assocation. What do you think about that.

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Yeah

0 will be normal. Non-zero will be error (it will be 1 or 2)

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Start?

What is start? Normal stuff is open, edit, etc.

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Start uses the secondary

Start uses the secondary file assocation. I didn't want edit because it would apply to anything.

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Hmmm

It just seems odd. Maybe doing an Open With and listing the Primary followed by the secondary in a popup ala Explorer. Start just doesn't seem to make sense on reading it. Even after I used it I still had no idea what it was and I like to think of myself as a smart guy Smile

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Tango Preview

I just tried my graphics skills (Ok, I threw some images together :P) at putting together a new preview for the Tango theme. It's better than the original, but really not fantastic. If NeoRame has something better, that's great.

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That looks very nice! I'll

That looks very nice! I'll include that one.

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Something Tedious

This is kinda buggin' me, because Explorer only does it when you bypass the recycle bin. I realize Xenon doesn't use the recycle bin either, but is there a way to stop the message about 'are you sure you want to delete the file blah?', or could a option be added?

Also, I don't know who's in favour with me on this, but I always use the traditional F2 for rename, and control+r for refresh. I know F5 is normally refresh too, but so is Control+R in most cases. I've seen John be picky on some other features Explorer users are used to, so maybe we should have those key combinations set to their traditional values? Up to what people prefer I s'pose.

Finally, I've been having a few bugs. One, I start up Xenon and the folder pane and navigation pane are blank forcing me to manually enter a location into the go bar. Now my folder pane is not working. It only expands and collapses directories, I cannot enter them (navigation pane is blank). Now Xenon has stalled (third time), I'm gonna try a re-install and use it as a base file manager to see what problems I run into and I'll get back to you.

Edit: Pre-Release 2: I have a clean install. I've tested this multiple times now. When selecting 'Show Folders' as your first action when at the default location (root of the drive), the folder pane displays properly. However, if you are to first go to the Computer root, and then select to 'Show Folders', it only displays a blank pane.

Curious, is there a reason drives are not striped at the Computer root? I think it would look better if they were.

For note: Bookmark editor and bookmarks are working flawlessly so far.

I know they did before, but they don't seem to now. Is there a reason custom folder icons are not shown, or is there an option for this? This will be needed to match the new Platform icons.

When using Control+C and Control+V to copy and paste, they work fine some of the time, but other times they just they just won't perform any action at all. Toolbar buttons and menu items that perform the action appear to always work.

For note: Once instance when pasting the window asking me of I would like to replace X with Y did not show the info about X and Y. I cannot reproduce this.

When entering an invalid path into the address bar, no error is given, just nothing happens. I think an error should be given if it's not too hard.

How hard would it be to add a feature to use Tab to move from the address bar, to the folder pane (when shown), to the navigation page, and then back to the address bar, etc. I can move from the address bar to folder pane to navigation pane only if an item is selected in each and cannot go back to the address bar. It would be handy if it's not hard, but it can wait.

File association editor is working flawlessly so far.

Searching does not work from the computer root. This would be helpful to have. I'm not sure whether it's a limitation, forgotten feature, or bug.

That's all I've noticed so far. Sorry to bombard you, I just don't want you bombarded with bugs and small little user annoyances when this is released. I'll continue using it to check for anything else. No crashing since, it may have just been my PC.

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What do you mean about the

What do you mean about the tabs?

I would also say that no searching from computer is a limitation.

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Tab Key

I mean using the Tab key on your keyboard. Open Explorer and press tab a few times and watch it change panels. Like that.

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Yes

I dont have the time to help beta testing this App (I love it anyhow!) but I second Patricks idea about making the "do you really want to delete this?"-message disable-able.

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Error Deleting

I got an 'Error Deleting' window, with the three options (quit, retry, retry as admin) available. I would say maybe have some small dialog somewhere on the error window saying that the file may be in use, as that's what the problem was but Xenon doesn't tell you that.

Thanks.

P.S. Buttons are pretty big in that Window eh?

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The problem is that Xenon

The problem is that Xenon can't tell why it can't delete the file. It may be used, in a system directory, or already deleted.

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I think

I think he means that should be mentioned as a possible reason in the dialog.

And it should probably be Cancel instead of Quit. Quit means quit the app to me.

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Yep

Possible reason.

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Ideas for 2

Ok, until now, Xenon is acting great. But I have a few ideas for version 2 (even though I know that it may be faaaaaaaar away).

  • Better performance

    • On my Windows Vista SP1 (and other systems unsupported) it runs slowly and it even blocks when a folder has many stuff inside.
  • Better integration
    • So, here there is a lot of stuf to show. I even made screenshots
      Screenshot (original)
      Screenshot (mockup)
      So, let me explain what we have here:

      • Using native toolbars instead of toolbox appearance Instead of using that awful toolbox appearance, we use native toolbars, that look better on every system.
      • Firefox 3 like Tabbar That shiny tabbar is used by Firefox on Windows Vista, maybe we could use that there, and on other systems use a normal toolbar.
      • Removing height of textboxes even though the textboxes are ok with no borders, with borders it is better to remove something like 2 pixels of height.
      • Minor details on tabs as you can see in the screenshot, the tabs look a little different. I added 2 pixels margins on the left, and the active tab has no border on the bottom (Maybe Vista Only).
      • Future changes If you think of adding a bookmarks bar use Firefox 3 blue toolbar scheme for Vista (the one used on Windows Mail), as I think it would look better.

These are my 2 cents. I know these ideas are awfully hard to implement (and even more on AutoIt/AutoHotKey), but if only some of those where applied (only on version 2 as it requires a lot of code change, right?) I think it would be a good usability improvement. Xenon has potential and should be developed as much as possible.

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Xenon Help issue

If I attempt to open Xenon Help on a system which already has an instance of Firefox physically installed directly to the host machine and with that instance also open on the desktop then I get an error message directing me to close that open instance first.

Strictly, this is an issue with Firefox Portable rather than Xenon, since Firefox Portable also generates the same error on open if a host desktop instance of Firefox is already open, but I thought you might like to know about it.

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Freeware?!?

When I hit the link to the main app, the description says its freeware! I thought we only host open source!

Edit: I mean, it says the launcher is open source, while the app is not.

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Actually the whole thing is

Actually the whole thing is OSS. Apparently I put the wrong info on my site.

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Ok.

Common mistake. This will make a great portable app.

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PR3 is out. I am hosting it

PR3 is out. I am hosting it on my own server for now because I can't upload via FTP to sourceforge. (I think they removed support for it.)

@John: if you can put it up that'd be great.

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Uploading

Hey John. Sorry I didn't get back to your email (swamped with the 1.1 release). SourceForge changed their upload system. We're trying to work out a better way to handle developer submissions now. I just uploaded it and the topic is updated.

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OK, that's fine. I figured it

OK, that's fine. I figured it was something like that.

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I can't believe there doesn't seem to be any news coverage on this change. That is a major roadblock for projects with multiple contributors who aren't all release techs...

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Yup

It definitely is. I'm annoyed.

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So

what do we do now? Can I still use Filezilla?

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Yes

You can, but it has to be set up to use sftp. There's new instructions for uploading in the sourceforge wiki. Since you're a release tech now, you (and only you.. thus the sucky part) will have access to what you uploaded in the file release.

Before, any release tech would have access to what anyone uploaded, so as long as you had a sourceforge account you could upload a file and have a release tech post it for you. Now, only the uploader can access the file, so they have to be a release tech themselves to post the file, or they have to upload it to somewhere other than sourceforge so a release tech can access it and re-upload it to sourceforge for posting.

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SourceForge.net Site Status Page

> I can't believe there doesn't seem to be any news coverage on this change.

Did you read SourceForge.net Site Status Page ?

"( 2008-05-16 04:17:52 - Download Servers ) As of 2008-05-15 at 08:00 Pacific the new File Release System upload interfaces were put into place, replacing the old FTP-based one. Web form, WebDAV, rsync over SSH and SFTP are the new supported methods. For more information, please reference: http://alexandria.wiki.sourceforge.net/File+Release+System+-+Offering+Fi...

( 2008-05-15 08:14:07 - SourceForge.net Web Site ) As of 8:00AM Pacific on 2008-05-15, the File Release System will be unavailable for uploads. We recommend that users not initiate large uploads after 5:00PM Pacific today.

( 2008-05-15 08:13:49 - SourceForge.net Web Site ) As of 8:00AM Pacific on 2008-05-15, file release uploads have been disabled for a systems upgrade."

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pre-release 3 works well on vista ultimate

I've just tried Pre-Release 3 on vista, and I haven't found any problems yet and doesn't leave anything obvious behind.

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Works Great

Thanks for all the bug fixes and small improvements, pre-release 3 is working great. The only thing I've noticed so far is when changing icon sets (after closing the icon set window), it gives me a small message box saying The drive is not ready. I'm sure that's an easy fix unless it's just me.

Edit: Title of help.html file is still Jooleem.

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I think it's just you. I

I think it's just you. I can't seem to reproduce it.

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Something With CD Drives

I think it might be something with when it refreshes or reloads Xenon, it loads the drives in the sidebar, and even if I'm on C:, it will load DVD drives like E: too. When I click directory on E: with no disk in it, I get the error too. So maybe that's it?

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Nope, it's there

He means the help.html file in the XenonPortable directory. It has Jooleem in the TITLE tag. And it doesn't correctly link to Xenon's help file at the bottom.

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I think John meant he can't

I think John meant he can't reproduce the error message that Patrick was getting

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PortableApps.com Theme Folder Icon

I just noticed the folder icon in the PortableApps.com theme are reverse as they are in the standard set. @ John Haller, are the icons in the next platform release not going to be going the regular way so they open left? If so, they icon needs to have its images flipped.

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Next Release

The next release uses these same icons.

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That Way?

But the folders open that way? Because the folders in the menu when you showed us the preview in IRC use them the opposite way.

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Oops

Oops, you're right. They're supposed to open to the right. I'll update Xenon's set and post it this week.

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1.5 PR4 is out. If someone

1.5 PR4 is out.
If someone could add this to SF that'd be great.

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Done

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/Xenon_Portable_1.5_Pre_Rel...

Unfortunately I can't mod posts, so you'll have to change your post link.

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Thanks.

Thanks.

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A Request

John, when the BUUF theme is packaged for it's final release will you package it with Xenon? The Icons themselves are finalized it just needs a new preview.

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I'd Suggest No

I'd suggest leaving BUUF out. It adds ~300k to the install size. And it's under a non-commercial license. So, while Xenon could be bundled on a flash drive for sale in its current state... if you add BUUF in, it couldn't be (it's a violation of the CC license BUUF is released under). So, I'd highly recommend leaving it as an optional, downloadable add-on.

I think we're fine with just the two included sets as a max.

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Are there any opinions on the

Are there any opinions on the latest release? Does it work properly? If this is going to get a release I'll need some feedback. Thanks.

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Good

I used it for a short bit, and it was working fine. I'll try to use it more commonly.

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I haven't had any problems yet

I've been playing with pre-release 4 on vista ultimate sp1, and I haven't came across any issues yet.

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Looks good, but for one thing...

I can't get the bookmarks to work. In the bookmark editor, I click "add", and a dialog pops up to choose a folder, I navigate to the folder I want the bookmark to point to, and click ok, a grey screen briefly flashes, then I'm back at the bookmark editor, but no new bookmark. Any one else with this issue?

Edit: I should say that I'm on a laptop running WinXP Pro SP2, in case that helps. I can give more specific architecture details if desired.

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I think the bookmark is not

I think the bookmark is not on the same drive as Xenon. That is a requirement. I could have sworn that there was a message box that was shown in that case...

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Then where?

I didn't get any messagebox, unless that was the grey box that flashed briefly. I don't think sotoo large for a normal messagebox.

So, if the bookmarks are stored on another drive, how is Xenon portable? Or do yuou mean the bookmark cannot point to the same drive that Xenon is installed on?

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He Means

If Xenon is installed to:

X:\PortableApps\XenonPortable,

It can only create bookmarks that are:

X:\Foo,
X:\Documents
X:\Documents\Videos
etc...

And of course each time Xenon Portable is started on a new drive, it would know it's new drive letter and point to those same directories as I believe they are probably relative from the Xenon directory somewhere like:

..\..\Documents\Videos

Creating bookmarks on another drive, say:

C:\Documents and Settings\User Name

Would cause Xenon not to find that bookmark when running on a new machine, because the user name would be different, or that directory setup may not exist at all. So it would only cause errors. It's intended to have portable bookmarks.

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Ah, thanks for the explanation

And the bookmarks work for the removable drive.

Although I think it would make more sense to allow bookmarks that point to the local drives, and then later if the user chooses a bookmark that doesn't exist on this particular computer, just throw the same "Directory Does Not Exist" error that pops up if you type a nonexistent directory directly into the location bar. That way, people who usually use 2 or 3 computers can have the directories they use a lot in their bookmarks.

If you can't do that, or just choose not to, can you have a note or warning? And maybe just allow the user to only browse the removable drive when selecting bookmarks?

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BUGS

HI all! Like always I have a cardreader with empty slots. When I start Xenon 1.5 pr4 it shows me error: Disk not ready, etc! This bug was in previous versions of xenon! But in pr3 it was fixed, now it apears again!

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Sorry, I can't reproduce

Sorry, I can't reproduce this. Nothing that I can see would make this happen...

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Well, when Xenon scans all

Well, when Xenon scans all the available drive in system it cann't read the empty drive. In Delphi I use "try...except".

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Sorry, I've been kind of busy

Sorry, I've been kind of busy lately. Is there any chance that you could give me a complete drive listing including drive types?

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Auto refreshing file tabs

When some program change the file or files in current tab Xenon doesn't refresh file tab automatically. I need to press F5 button. I think this feature will helpfull in future versions of Xenon.

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Languages

Is Russian language exists??? If not, maybe I can do it for Xenon? How?

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If you want to help with the

If you want to help with the translation you will need to translate the files XenonPortable\App\6-Zip\lang_en-US.ini and XenonPortable\App\xenon\lang\lang_en-US.ini

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Ok, I'll try this!

Ok, I'll try this!

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It's done. Can I share it???

It's done. Can I share it???

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Here's link to download

Here's link to download LANG-installator:
http://www.evil-pad.tu1.ru/etc.php
File to download: Xenon_Portable_RussianLNG.exe

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TRANSLATION

Where I can find info about translators of Xenon???

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TRANSLATION

Menu "Open With" doesn't translated! In ini-file I cann't find this key!

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PR5 is out. If someone could

PR5 is out. If someone could upload this to SF that would be great.

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BUGS

On search files with mask "*.exe" xenon shows me error:

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AutoIt Error
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Line -1:

Error: Subscript used with non-Array variable.
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ОК
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What OS are you using?

What OS are you using?

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win xp sp2

win xp sp2

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Virus Alert

One of my antivirus programs thought Xenon Portable was a virus. Normally, this would not be a problem, but it was scanned using ClamWin Portable.

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False positive. Check any

False positive. Check any autoit application and you'll get the same result.

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not "any"

not "any" autoit app. my JkDefragGUI isn't being tagged. i would look through a virustotal.com report and email any big name antivirus company that's giving false positives.

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Yes, but this isn't the average false positive

It was scanned using an offical portableapp, ClamWin Portable which is why I posted it.

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So...

ClamWin (Portable) isn't like some super anti-virus, and there's many better. ClamWin has its flase positives like all anti-virus apps. If you want to do you part, you can report this false-positive to them.

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Yes, but

I mean, if Clam Win wasn't an official portable App, I wouldn't care, but an official app would be calling another official app a virus.

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So Report It

So, then your duty would be to report it. You don't have to obviously, but this is a way you can pitch in and have the problem fixed.

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After compression by UPX

After compression by UPX DoctorWeb Antivirus Detects in apps virus to!

Maybe this is the problem??

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Nope

The only other app it thought was a virus was the Project 64 launcher, and that went away after an update.

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ClamWin may be an official

ClamWin may be an official app, but we don't provide the virus signatures. They don't detect whether the apps were both official PortableApps.com apps, they check for possible malicious actions in the content of the exe.

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Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon, Glen Canyon, Hoover Dam, Zion National Park, various small towns in Utah, Arizona and Nevada

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Possible Bug:

1) Right click on any file not associated with a program
2) click open
3) you will get "the file dos not have any program associated with it ...
4) click OK
5) you will get line:-1, Error:Unable to execute the external program ...
5) Xenon will shut down

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