(Closed) Please vote for or against changes to OpenOffice.org Portable

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• remove all additional launchers (writerportable.exe and so on) to save space in
  menu and use the new OpenOfficePortable startcenter instead
  • -1 points Don't like it, it takes more time to launch an app, and it would be worse on old PCs, even though it would be nice to have less mess on the menu, so my advice is an option in the installer for that
• create / publish language packs for all requested languages (means more than
  5 requests for a language and OpenOffice.org language packs are available)
  • +1 points (but with conditions) only if you say 10 or 15 people minimum, only that way I will agree
• create / publish the installer with optional components (at first one option for a
  light install)
  • +1 points But keep sure there is an option for "Regular user Install" and "Advanced user install" for those extra options (excepting Light Install)

These are my 2 cents.

Edited second opinion

-1 Users should have the option, they can delete the additional launchers if they don't want them. Also with the new menu supposed to be adding category support they can make a category for OO.
+1 All the apps should be published with as many languages as possible.
+1 Install options are always a plus.

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+1 My menu is getting crowded and this would make it easier to find things.
+1 English is the only language I want but it wouldn't be fair to others who use a different language and could make OpenOffice less attractive, resulting in fewer users.
+1 Personally, I wouldn't want or use OpenOffice if I couldn't have the full meal deal, but I realize that a light install could benefit some users. I just hope that the full version remains available.

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Remove all launchers: -1
Create language packs for all requested lanuages: +1 but, only if I can install JUST english. By including all languages, portable apps managed to waste about 25 mb of my drive.
Create publish the installer with optional components: +1

I'd like to see each language its own installer option.

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I agree with everything, but I think that the first change should be an option in the installer. Because, not everyone will want a universal launcher. It's sometimes convenient to have each launcher.

More languages are always better for our users.

Customization is always a welcome addition.

So, there's my two cents on that.

so far, the tallies are:

• Not unanimous, some people (5 out of 18) want an option to not do so.
• Unanimous, YES.
• Unanimous, YES.

• ? I haven't used the new Startcenter yet so I cant say anything here. For now I think the multiple starters work well and do their job. I deleted the ones I don't need so its not that much space wise and I can always get them back if I need them. And if Categorising is implemented, space wont be a biggie anymore either.
• +1 If its not too much work I support that. I guess the packs wont be the full package but rather like Add ons and available as separate downloads. At least thats what I'd do. And I would set the number higher.
• +1 Definitively. Packing the light version as an option into the main package (thats how I understood Marko) is good.

+1 (Like in InfraRecorder; I haven't used the new startcenter, but it sounds good)
+½ (Don't really understand just precisely what you mean, but I think it's a good idea from what I understand of it)
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The last option is probably harder to implement. Several localizations could be useful, but not critical, at least for me.

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I was going to say as everyone else did and say give the users and option with the number of launcher, but I just checked out the new startcenter thing and it seems to be fairly nice.

-1 I like having only one item for OOP in my menu, but I still want to be able to associate files with the individual/appropriate OOP app/exe.

+1 installing dictionaries etc is not straight forward, so having language packs that is easy to add/install would be much appreciated

+1 as long as I can still have my "full fat" version

Thanks
Paul

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+1 - I would like the option as well to select all launchers. Speed is not an issue for me as I run mine from the HD anyways then back it up to a flash drive and an iPod.

+1 - Smaller is more better gooder. Less languages means better and faster.

+1 - I opt for a full install myself but having the option to doa lite or what have you install would be nice for my UBCD4Win disk.

-1 I want seperate launchers, this has to be much faster than first loading a startcenter. Besides I would loose the ability to portable associate extensions with tools like CAFE to link to individual applications within the suite. At the moment I click one of the tools in OOo I already know what I need and having a startcenter start first would waste my time. And even if most people want the start center, make it optional! Crowding the PA menu is secondary problem as categories was promised to be coming soon long ago!

+1 Publishing language packs would be ok. But make sure they are going to be paf.exe files as well for easy installation in correct places. Don't bother (us) with a zip Keeping in mind that most people only use one or two languages (ie English and their native language). But I personally feel its more important for spellcheckers than GUI language.

+1 I think having a Light and Full install is okay. As long as you don't start shelving out separate downloads for them. It might even include some languages for that matter. Standard selection should be Full and English language.

On a separate note, I think having the PAF.EXE installer optionally installing additional language for all apps is preferred over just installing all languages, even if it's only 1+ MB worth of data installed.

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I think that the best solution would be to implement folders/categories in the menu. But untill that gets implemented leave it like it is.

Removing launchers: I'm concerned about associations too. Does soffice.bin recognize extensions and open the correct module?
If yes, then I don't care. If no, I'm highly against.
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I would suggest that the installer gives the user these options, especially regarding languages (because dictionary files are HUGE). It would be nice not to install dictionaries you don't want (I delete them myself).

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You don't need to worry about the extra launchers. An upcoming feature in the menu will handle it perfectly (the user gets to choose). The appinfo.ini as configured in the current release already has all the info it needs to do it.

Does OOo itself do language packs? They should. They we could have a multilingual installer that does em.

On the optional bit... are you sure you can handle all the work required for the light build in addition to main with all the additional languages?

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+8 (infinity) This is a very good idea! but the user should be asked about this because many complain.
+1 portable apps need to speak in different languages
+1 but please make an installer with full options

1. Couldn't there just be an option during installation for a 'startcenter' or a launcher for each app, and then provide a separate download of each so that people could change their minds without having to do a re-install
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...about any of the things you have listed one way or the other, so I have no votes to cast on the ideas raised.

So far, I have only one major beef about Oo, and THAT is what I would like to see folks vote on - if enuff votes, mebbe it could get incorporated into a future Oo release:

I would like to see Oo use MDI - Multiple Document Interface.
That way, I could read/edit/ work on a # of docs at the same time, all in ONE program window...

I'm so used to MDI when browsing the web, working on text files, viewing PDFs, etc., that I view it as an absolute ESSENTIAL!!!

How 'bout it?... Any others wanna weigh in on this ossible assition to Oo?...

+1 : Remove all launchers.
Even on the main system, I prefer the new way of doing things.

+1 : I'm especially looking for the French language pack, as well as Canadian English, French and Spanish dictionaries

+1 : Options are always good...

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Roger
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