Dear
i would like to make a application to portable application.
please tell me full procdure.
and is any software that can be use for make application to make portable.
please send the link to download.
regards
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you seem to miss this post
it was near the top of this forum
https://portableapps.com/node/14868
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
ANY SPFTWARE TO MAKE NORMAL APPLICATION TO MAKE PORTABLE APPLICATION
There's no software. You must make it with your hands, if you don't know how to make it, don't make it...
That's wrong!!!
It gives programs with that you can make applications portable!
Example:
JauntePE or Xenocode Virtual Application Studio .......... and many more!
Yelling gets you no where, you wanted to know how it's done I showed you how it's done take it or leave it, sorry pal but thats how we work.
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
way of doing it, you have to check out the guide Zach posted here: https://portableapps.com/node/14868 This is how it's properly accomplished.
search for universal extractor,install it and openit,open a setup file,not an app and click extract,check the destination you put it in and there will be a folder there after it all finishes,open that folder and go into all the folders untill u find the folder which would usualy be in program files,then you can copy the folder onto your memory stick(usb)and load the app
Sometimes when you extract it comes up with an error message and says these methods are not allways 100% sucsesfull so try the 2,i had found that with some apps i extracted but im happy that it works for most apps.
uhmm that way doesn't work at all when it comes to terms of portability, I say this because you will loose most of your data on the host computer hence not portable by our standards.
your friendly neighbourhood moderator Zach Thibeau
There's different definition of "Portable" for different companies and people.
One of my friends thinks its that you can get it on the drive... which is what you think, and that's perfectly fine.
The developers here think that the settings has to be back on the drive when the application if exited, and no personal data is left.
I think that nothing should be left, and everything should be back on the drive, except for the installation of the drive. Which is almost impossible.
What you think, and what the community think are different.
I asked about this myself and have found this though not tried it yet, check it out see if it helps you, it appears limited to certain types of program though.
http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Make_portable_applications_with_VMware_ThinApp
http://www.vmware.com/products/thinapp/
Personally my def of a PA is that it can be 'installed' to a removable drive of any kind, whether it leaves information behind is only relevant if it leaves personal information. This is obviously not something anyone would want. If Audacity left a file on the libraries computer are you really gonna give a toss? No. You'd only care if you were at work and your boss found out you were wasting his time!
I think it therefore depends on the App. If an App isn't portable and you make it portable but it leaves files on the PC you use it on, does it matter, really? I mean I do understand the reasons for no files being left, security and efficiency seem to be the only real concerns. By efficiency, I mean if you keep leaving unnecessary files on different PC's they end up with a load of junk files, which we all know isn't a good thing. Yet if an App can be made portable, I say go for it. It still minimizes installation.
Scott
Live for an ideal and leave no place in the mind for anything else.
A license for VMware ThinApp costs somewhere around $10,000 from memory, and more to distribute each app with it. And it's slow. And it doesn't do every application very well. Because of the high cost, also, 99.9%+ of ThinApp apps will be illegal. These summarise reasons why we don't even talk about ThinApp and the likes.
Our definition of portability is much higher and much more demanding - and in the long run, much better. We require what in some other places is called "stealth" - and more. Functionality is also important: drive letters must be updated, increasing usability of apps.
I am a Christian and a developer and moderator here.
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Slow???
Unlike with NSIS launchers, I never noticed any slowdown in Thinstall. Actually it sometimes was well faster than unpacked program. Sometimes=USB 1.1, app with well compressible, read-only data. SoftMaker Office for example. (Nowadays, it's mobile if not portable, so it doesn't need additional portabilization, but it was not always this way)
Can you show some example? I don't ask for distributing a Thinstalled app, but telling what program do you mean and giving instructions how should it be used to reveal the problem.
You're comparing PA.com definition of portability to what? I never heard of Thinstall having one.
"Functionality is also important: drive letters must be updated, increasing usability of apps."
I think that you should elaborate more. I see no reason to update any drive letters. AFAIC Virtualization can work just as well.
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Asimov
I'm going by what I have heard reported, and what seems to me logical. Thinstall/ThinApp block compresses its data as well as the app (I believe), and so it will suffer degraded performance. What we do compresses the app but not the data or anything like that.
Secondly (and more importantly) Thinstall/ThinApp have to hook into lots of hooks to make sure they intercept everything. This can slow apps down a lot (generally depending on how much reading and writing they do). Our NSIS launchers all set things up for the app they run, run it, and then clean things up (if there's anything to clean up; some such as my BPBible have no need to clean anything up).
I was comparing portability definitions with what sl23 had said.
My knowledge here is entirely knowledge, not backed with any experience: I don't use illegal copies of software.
I am a Christian and a developer and moderator here.
“A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.” – Proverbs 15:1
Thinstall decompression is propertiary, so I don't kow much about it, but they say that it decompresses fast, which means 100++ MB/s on a modern machine. USB transfer is the performance limiting factor, not decompression. And considering that they lift this limit, on USB 1.1 it's faster, on 2.0 - I never noticed any difference.
With NSIS - every app starts slower (some-just slower,some-very much slower)with the only exception I met being OO.o, it's so slow by itself, that launcher effect is not noticeable for me.
And compression is optional anyway, don't like it-don't use it. Somehow everybody uses it.
Hooks: Theory. Show me an app where this 2%(wild guess) is noticeable.
ADDED: After thinking for some time, there might be measurable slowdown in case of some registry cleaner. But I'm purely theorising here too.
You can have a trial copy legally. And I really recommend it, very nice experience, it's one of the best done applications ever.
And it's nice that you admit you're talking about a thing you've never seen. Your "knowledge" is a set of guesses. This time they are wrong.
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Asimov
@sl23
for example strictly personal info, ok you agree with that,
but if for example an application stores all its settings and variable on the host computer and does not take it with it to have it on the next computer, then it is also not very portable.
Lot of apps will work fine, installed on the stick as long as they are connected to the same computer.
For example a mail client. It is fine to be on a stick, but we would also like to have all the account settings and mails and address book etc on the stick. No big use of it if those are stored in C:\applicattions and settings....
Or the browser, you might want to have the history, all the bookmarks etc with you on the stick and stored somewhere on C: drive.
Or some app needs extensive settings and they are then stored in the registry of the host computer, lost when you come to next machine.
So not all is so simple as you describe it.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
I started something there didn't I?
Thanks for your comments.
Re: leaving info on PC - Well I assumed that settings were part of being portable, it's not a portable app if settings are left on PC. I was talking more temp files and the like. Fair point though, I didn't mention that
I did however say it depends on the app.
Sorry, just giving my opinion and trying to help that's all... sniff...
Live for an ideal and leave no place in the mind for anything else.
and I did ask them about the so much advertised thinapp.
First well they did say , fine today we can thinapp all apps etc. Well they use for other purpose then portabilize them.
But then the engineers admitted, that today, in april 2009, the thinapp is far away from packing everything. They care mainly fo office software, since this is most wanted by their customers, but even with many functions of MS office parts they have problems up to now. For example embeded objects will not work even if they are just made by other app inside the same office pack etc.
They say, lot of work and lot of manual work on configuration is still needed when services has to be run by the app. Not always possible however.
If some specific drivers are needed for accessing devices, well then nothing will work that way anyway.
So just this should be info for all those who claim to be able to do -any- app portable, you know those thinapp guys appearing time to time.
Otto Sykora
Basel, Switzerland
QEMU will work even if there's a driver needed.
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." Asimov
But without the driver, it super slow. With the driver, its just slow
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It doesn't make an installer... It just makes an app portable:
https://portableapps.com/node/9909