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[Outdated] eXpresso 1.2.5 Development Test 5

***THIS IS AN OUTDATED RELEASE!!! Please get eXpresso 1.5 Alpha 2 over here! ***

Application: eXpressoCategory: UtilitiesDescription: While active, eXpresso allows the user to associate files to applications on a portable device such as a USB flash drive or an iPod in disk mode, with a standard double click. No modifications will be made to the host system, all monitoring of file launches, all settings and all dependencies are contained in the eXpresso directory.eXpresso:Mirror 1 (Bensawsome.com) eXpresso [ 1.74 MB (1,832,787 bytes) download / 3.94 MB (4,136,033 bytes) installed (MD5: 31531d5b883e59af7c25b64756bd7ce2)]

To update from CAFEMod, just rename cafe.ini to eXpresso.ini and copy the files.

Sorry for making you guys update so much Sad
The latest release should be stable and usable, and it won't delete you INI Blum Development Test 1 (12-8-09)

  1. Initial Unsupported Release
  2. Fixed double instance errors
  3. Removed unreferenced labels
  4. Updated Launcher to current specifications (I think)

Development Test 2 (12-10-09)

  1. FINALLY FIXED the pause/running icons. (Looks like the code was never integrated, the original developers much have just hacked AutoHotKey's S icon or something, correct me if I'm wrong)
  2. Entire NSIS Launcher rewritten
  3. My Copyright added, now that I actually did some stuff (2 days worth of developing!!! :D)
  4. Cleaned up PortableApps.com Format in the App (appinfo.ini, installer.ini, readme.txt
  5. Fixed some more renaming from CAFE to eXpresso issues (forgot the lang files.)
  6. Added a Cancel button to the New Association window. (Thanks computerfreaker for pointing out a fix that was needed for this. :D)

Development Test 3 (12-20-09)

  1. Fixed cancel button errors on new association (Thanks to computerfreaker + waithdu)
  2. Removed the MOD in the eXpresso instructions.txt
  3. Fixed Double Clicking for about Everything (wraithdu)
  4. Fixed Window Double Clicking (waithdu)
  5. Many other things fixed by wraithdu I'm unsure of

Development Test 4/4½ (12-30-09)

  1. Fixed Refreshing Errors
  2. Fixed FindProc Errors
  3. Many other even more things fixed by wraithdu I'm unsure of
  4. (4½) Fixed NoINI Section

Development Test 5 (12-31-09)

  1. Fixed major INI moving problems
  2. (1.2.5 Release fix by wraithdu) Fixed some var issues

Known Bugs:
None Ha! No seriously, none officially proven Blum

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Good work so far

I encourage you to read what I wrote at This Post.

Great work so far, but it appears that there is an issue with the launcher:
Upon first launch, "ERROR:(APP\eXpresso\eXpresso.exe cannot be found)"
As I wrote in the above thread, you can take this over; I no longer have time to develop it.

EDIT: Looks like you already know that. I read the last page of the previous thread.

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Only on first launch? So, I

Only on first launch?

So, I shouldn't have noticed it when I ran it since it was using my settings right? Yeah, I'll look at it now. Biggrin

Edit: Nevermind, I made a mistake with the NoINI section, "Forgot to place $EXEDIR before the ${DEFAULTAPPDIR} and ${DEFAULTEXEDIR}

Uploading fix now.

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I am still having the "could

I am still having the "could not be found" issue when launching, except the error is longer:
ERROR:E:\PortableApps\eXpresso\App\eXpresso\E:\PortableApps\eXpresso\eXpresso.exe Blum That is probably an issue.
Again, I have not checked the source before posting this.
Also, as far as I remember .5 or 1/2, etc. releases are discouraged. John prefers the versions for Dev Tests and Pre Relesases to be without these. If the changes are that small, or if the original release was not functional (as in this case), I'd recommend you just keep at Dev Test 4.

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O_O Sorry, I think I'm a bit

Shock

Sorry, I think I'm a bit off today Sad

Okay, the problem was that this time, the $EXEDIR shouldn't have been next to the ${DEFAULTEXE} Var.

And just to be sure, I even ran it without the INI Wink

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Thanks for the update! Does

Thanks for the update!

Does the program memorize the extensions? It seems to forget everything instantly :S. There's something I should do before use it?

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What version of eXpresso do

What version of eXpresso do you have? It's definitely supposed to remember the file associations...
This is probably an unnecessary question, but it never hurts to ask - do you have any file associations set?

EDIT: I'll be darned - you're right.
wraithdu fixed that bug in a CAFE build, but AFAIK that build has not been publicly released.
Let me see if I can find the source of that problem in eXpresso...
EDIT 2: I found the problem, and am fixing it right now.
In the meantime, you can work around this by creating a folder called "settings" (no quotes) inside the Data folder.

eXpresso
-----App
-----Data
----------settings [CREATE THIS FOLDER]
-----Other

That should fix your problem until we get a permanent bugfix out.

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I've fixed the bug and am

I've fixed the bug and am sending gluxon the fix right now. With luck, the fix should be posted shortly.

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I'm not blaming anything on

I'm not blaming anything on wraithdu, I should have looked over the source but here's what happened.

wraithdu changed eXpresso to write it's settings to the ..\..\Data\settings folder, not the folder eXpresso.exe (Not Portable) was in. So moving the file was pointless.

Now, I just need to figure out why another executable of eXpresso is starting up with a weird menu.

Edit: Nevermind, the weird menu isn't popping up anymore? Shock

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Well, I think I have the

Well, I think I have the first bug (misplaced INI file) fixed... want to check & make sure?

EDIT: forgot to mention, I also turned off debugging for the build I sent you. Maybe you're using a different AHK version than I am, but mine kept popping up a debugger - very useful while coding, but not so nice for normal users.
I didn't delete the debugger line, though - I just commented it out.

I can't seem to reproduce the second bug (weird menu). Can you post the steps to reproduce the bug, so I can help track it down?
nvm, I see you can't reproduce it anymore either.

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Suggestion: fork

I now have the source for both your latest build and wraithdu's latest build; after looking at both builds, I have a suggestion.

I think the two of you should probably create separate forks of eXpresso; your development styles are fairly different, and that's probably going to cause more problems like this one.

Just MHO; YMMV.

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No. I think it's better for

No. I think it's better for the community if we merge both our codes. I'm pretty sure I already did that though.

I found out the source of the second menu I was getter. Actually, I find it quit Hallarious Blum

I was working inside the Source/eXpressoSource folder, so I just randomly chose an AHK file to test eXpresso with. The only executable AHK was eXpresso.ahk, so I chose that to associate AutoHotKey with Blum

So when I launched eXpresso.ahk with AutoHotKeyPortable.exe, I got a second menu. Blum

LOL Biggrin

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Oh boy, that's the kind of

Oh boy, that's the kind of bug I absolutely love... you can never find those bugs twice, so they inevitably get marked as "CANT REPRODUCE" and sit in the bugtracker for years until finally a (not-so-accidental) system crash removes them all for good... lol

With regards to the code merging... you guys are in charge. I was just making a suggestion based on what I'm seeing... there are probably upsides and downsides to both ways.

(btw, check your e-mail - I just dropped you back a note)
(btw #2, I'm in IRC right now - if you want to come in, we can talk about this in realtime)

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Development Test 5 Released

Development Test 5 Released (12-31-09)

  1. Fixed major INI moving problems
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Post-Install Updating Code

Here's something I found.

To update from CAFEMod, just rename cafe.ini to eXpresso.ini and copy the files.

I have a better idea - keep in mind that it's old, and untested, (I wrote this before the installer got updated) but try and give this a shot:

	;=== BEGIN: POST-INSTALL CODE
;Check For CAFE Mod
	;Is this an upgrade from CAFE Mod?
	IfFileExists "$INSTDIR\..\CAFE\CafeMod.exe" "" CheckForOldSettings
	IfFileExists "$INSTDIR\..\CAFE\App\AppInfo\appinfo.ini" "" CheckForOldSettings ;Check for ini too
	;No files found, fresh install
	Goto PostinstallCodeEnd

CheckForOldSettings:
	;Checks for the ini in CAFE Mod and Data directories
	IfFileExists "$INSTDIR\..\CAFE\Data\settings\cafe.ini" "" WarnSettingsMove 
	Goto RemoveOldVersion

WarnSettingsMove:
	MessageBox MB_OK|MB_ICONINFORMATION `The eXpresso installer has detected a copy of CAFE Mod in the PortableApps Directory, and will now copy settings and remove old files. Please close CAFE Mod if it is running.`
	Goto ConvertOldSettings
		
ConvertOldSettings:
	Rename "$INSTDIR\..\CAFE\Data\settings\cafe.ini" "$INSTDIR\Data\settings\expresso.ini\" ; This will copy the old ini settings file from CAFE Mod to the new eXpresso directory.

RemoveOldVersion:
	RMDir /r "$INSTDIR\..\CAFE\" ;Deletes the old CAFE Mod directory
	Goto PostInstallCodeEnd

PostInstallCodeEnd:	
	;=== END: POST-INSTALL CODE

I haven't really gotten the chance to look at how this might be integrated into the new installer, I am unsure of how it handles custom code. I did have a glance at the new installer. As far as I know this may not be necessary, but it might be useful.

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It's a macro

It's a macro CustomCodePostInstall in PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh.

I've just cleaned up and simplified that code. If you'd tested it you'd find that it doesn't work at all: all your IfFileExists clauses were the wrong way around, .. works unpredictably, and you had a trailing \ on a filename.

Also I removed the code to remove the old installation directory as that's very bad practice; leave the user to do it if they want to, and copy the config rather than moving it; the user might want it.

(Also it seems to me there's only any need for one FileExists check as cafe.ini is the only file you care about in the old version.)

!macro CustomCodePostInstall
	;=== Upgrading from CAFE Mod?
	${GetParent} $INSTDIR $0
	${If} ${FileExists} "$0\CAFE\Data\settings\cafe.ini"
	${AndIfNot} ${FileExists} "$INSTDIR\Data\settings\expresso.ini"
		CopyFiles /SILENT "$0\CAFE\Data\settings\cafe.ini" "$INSTDIR\Data\settings\expresso.ini"
	${EndIf}
!macroend

Was X:\PortableApps\CAFE the default location for CAFE Mod? I thought it was CAFEPortable or CAFEModPortable...

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That looks better

Yeah, it was just "CAFE", as far as I remember.

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Nitpicking

Appinfo lists the publisher as "App Developer" & Pa.c

Otherwise, it's time for me to try eXpresso out and see if I prefer it over PFA.

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PFA

I can say from experience that PFA is far superior. eXpresso only works when opening files from Explorer, PFA works even when opening from other apps (launching downloads from a browser, etc.)

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AFAIK, PFA has one critical

AFAIK, PFA has one critical problem: if it crashes, those file associations are stuck there. eXpresso makes no file associations, so it doesn't have that problem...

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I think that's been fixed

Because I accidentally killed PFA's process the other day, then when I restarted it and did an add/remove cycle, it returned everything to the original state. No harm, no foul.

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PFA is very crash resilient.

PFA is very crash resilient. It does not need to remain running to function, so it is designed to be shutdown after application of the settings. That means it can crash, you can reboot, whatever... and next time it is launched it will detect its state (applied or not) and act accordingly. It will also properly handle a system shutdown (the settings will be removed) if the app is running at the time of shutdown.

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Wow, that's pretty good

Wow, that's pretty good design!
Still prefer eXpresso though...

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Hey, thanks

Hey, thanks Smile

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I'm curious

Where does PFA store the original associations? I looked through the Data directory while it was active, but didn't find anything...

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Per user keys override system

Per user keys override system keys, so there are only backups if there are already user keys we want to replace (also since we can't guarantee Admin permission to modify system keys). In this case they are just renamed in the registry to temporarily move them out of the way.

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Version control

A month ago I was talking to John about version control for our projects. It's due some time (John's just sorting out a few other things first then he'll get to it). Initially I just suggested appcompactor, installer, launcher, platform, and toucan, but then a bit later I suggested one for eXpresso. I haven't heard back from him about that specific idea, but I reckon that it's a project which should have version control - whether as http://code.google.com/p/expresso or as an item in the PortableApps.com project (you'd get an "expresso" repository in http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/).

Then also you could stop this mad "release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, release, ..." ad tedium process and just tell people to download Mercurial (or TortoiseHg if they're not needing portable use) and hg clone http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net:8000/hgroot/portableapps/expresso first time and then hg up to get the latest development version. (Release notes can also be a lot easier to maintain with version control and log messages).

Also you should only increment the Development Test number if it's launcher or PortableApps.com Format packaging changes that you do. As soon as it's any change in eXpresso itself, increment the version number. (Personally I think you should just drop the Development Test number and just have "eXpresso 1.2.5.1 Development Test".)

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Re: Version Control

Chris MorganAlso you should only increment the Development Test number if it's launcher or PortableApps.com Format packaging changes that you do. As soon as it's any change in eXpresso itself, increment the version number. (Personally I think you should just drop the Development Test number and just have "eXpresso 1.2.5.1 Development Test".)

The eXpresso launcher is still undergoing a lot of changes, so dropping the Dev Test # will probably be confusing... IMHO we should keep that.

Version control would probably be a great thing, though, since the changes are fairly hard to track.

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except nobody would really

except nobody would really want to go through the trouble of it. You'll have alot of whiners.

Version control is great, but only if people want to use it.

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Still release

You can still do regular releases. But if using SVN or Bazaar, you could use the friendly revision number (Mercurial only offers the revision ID, e.g. "48a5gb240c7f") in the version number.

I think I'd just label them "eXpresso 2.0 Alpha 1" etc. and increment the Alpha number with each release. The way KidSafe and eXpresso have been going is just reeeaaally confusing and doesn't get anywhere (linear version numbers at this stage of development tend to be a lot simpler than non-linear).

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Sure

you can tag stuff in Mercurial no problem, you can see examples of it in the Toucan repo.

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may have completely misunderstood you here, but are you suggesting we store binaries in version control? If so I would have to strongly disagree that it is a good idea, it would fairly quickly bloat the repository and they are imposible to merge, for more info on this see the hg book.

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Translating

Want to translate Expresso into my foreign language, and, maybe include it for a next release :). But, how to do this ?

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Re: Translating

Copy the App\eXpresso\locale\English.lng file and rename it to the appropriate language code; then, open the copied lng file and edit it. Like any other INI file, you'll need to leave the section names and variable names alone and just edit the values.
Here's a copy of the English.lng file; the values you're supposed to change are in italics.
Once you're finished, delete my notes; then, upload the translation to a site like Dropbox, Rapidshare, or Mediafire, and post the link here.
Thanks for the translation!

[tray]
information=Information
pref=Preferences
pause=Pause
restart=Refresh eXpresso
quit=Quit
upd=Update
exec=Type And Run

[pref]
language=Language Choice
dblclickset=Double-click Settings
configassoc=Extension Configuration
configapps=Application Path Configuration
configwin=Monitored Window Configuration
autoassoc=Auto Associate New To Host
confedit=Edit Configuration ini File

[messages]
runfile=Would you like to run the selected`nfile in the selected application? [Note: don't change the `n in this one, as that's the newline character]
filenotassociated=$extension files are not yet recognised by C.A.F.É.`nDo you want to set an association for them ?`n(not recommended for exe and com files) [Note: don't change $extension or `n for this one]

[shared]
btnbrowse=...
btnOK=OK
btnquit=Close
alltypes=All Files
typeapp=Application
extexists=$extension files are already managed!`nWould you like to change the association? [Note: don't change $extension or `n for this one]
assocboxtitle=eXpresso | Choose the application that will open $extension files [Note: don't change $extension for this one]
appnotfound=The application $prog`nthat should open $extension files was not found.`nDo you wish to update the association? [Note: don't change $prog, `n, or $extension for this one]
filenotfound=The specified file, $file, cannot be found [Note: don't change $file for this one]

[dblclickgui]
labelfast=Fast
labelslow=Slow
buttontest=This button`nallows you`nto test sensitivity`nat the chosen speed`nby double-clicking it [Note: don't change `n for this one]
oneclicktt=Single-click :`n- elapsed time : $deltaClickms`n- allowed time : $speedms [Note: don't change `n, $deltaClickms, or $speedms for this one]
dblclicktt=Double-click!
labelvalidate=Validate
labelcancel=Cancel
dblclicktitlegui=eXpresso | Double-click Settings
textdc=Double-Click

[extgui]
extguispltext=Extension List Creation In Progress...
boxadd=Add an association
textadd=You can either use the ... button to browse for a file with the desired extension, or you can type the desired extension, beginning with the dot.
btnassoc=Associate
boxapps=Associated Applications
boxmain=Main Application
boxsecondary=Alternative Application
textassoc=To use the software on the host computer, type host in the field. You must click OK for the association to be applied
boxext=Extension List
delext=Delete Extension
delassoc=Delete Association
exttitlegui=eXpresso | Extension Association Configuration
titleselectfile=eXpresso | Select a file to associate
errorext=Error while adding the extension
nofile=No file selected to associate
noext=Selected file does not have an extension`nAssociate anyway? [Note: don't change `n for this one]
noapp=Please select an application before`nattempting to create this association. [Note: don't change `n for this one]
nullType=*No Extension

[appgui]
appguispltext=Application List Creation in Progress...
boxapps=Associated Applications
lblabspath=Absolute Path:
lblrelpath=Relative Path:
apptitlegui=eXpresso | Application Path Configuration
titleselectapp=eXpresso | Select an application for this association
spashchgmnt=Path modification in progress...
splashfin=Finished!
boxappspath=Path To Selected Application
howto=To change the path of an associated application, click the application name in the box on the left, then click ... to browse to the new path. Click OK to save the new path.

[wingui]
wintitlegui=eXpresso | Monitored Window Configuration
lblwinclass=Ahk_class:
delmanagedwin=Delete Managed Window
boxwins=Managed Windows
boxwinsclass=Ahk Class of Managed Window
noclass=No Class Selected!
alreadymanaged=The window $window is already managed! [Note: don't change $window for this one]
helpout=To add another window for eXpresso to manage, hold Shift + Win and click the window's title bar, or if you already know the ahk_class, you can add multiple windows by typing the full class name followed by a pipe | .`n`nYou must click OK for changes to apply. [Note: don't change `n for this one]

[rungui]
runtitlegui=eXpresso | Type And Run
txtrun=Run
txtalt=Run Alternative
ddoptions=Keep Me On Top|Minimize Me After Run|Close Me After Run
keywordprompt=Enter a keyword for $app [Note: don't change $app for this one]
keywordtitle=eXpresso | Keyword
runfiletitle=eXpresso | Select File to Launch
makekeyword=Create Keyword
nofile=No file selected to run

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Done !

My French Translation is done.
If anyone has better one, suggest Smile
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Great, thank you!

Great work, thank you!
For those downloading this, here's how to use it.
Make sure eXpresso isn't running; place the translation file in App\eXpresso\locale. Don't remove the files already there, just add this file to the locale folder.

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Wow, thanks Smile

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Well, just to comment on the

Well, just to comment on the eXpresso versus PFA...

If you really can't make a choice, choose PFA for now. It has a couple more features and a bit more efficient, at the moment!!! Biggrin

wraithdu: By the time eXpresso's official, it'll kick PFA butt! Blum

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Hmmm, no comment

Hmmm, no comment Wink

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can not open file with single click

i ofen open files with single click in freecommander.I think it's convenient.But i can not do that with my portable applications as eXpresso has define.Can you please fix it.
Sorry for my bad english.

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Cafe / eXpresso will never

Cafe / eXpresso will never support single click activation. It would just never work right and would conflict way too much. Sorry.

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Great!

This is really good for those who may not have access to HKCU\Software\Classes for some reason, such as me. (Yes, it does sometimes happen…) PFA is still good if you actually do have access to the required registry key, which I don't Biggrin

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Huh? How don't you have

Huh? How don't you have access to that key? It's the current user's branch of the registry... even standard users have access to this key. Without access to your branch of the registry, I don't see how any application that relies on the registry would work at all!

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I'm pretty sure he's just

I'm pretty sure he's just saying that the specific key is blocked? Not the enitre HKCU? Blum

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The logged on user has access

The logged on user has access to all of HKCU including Software\Classes, that's the point of it. PFA has been extensively tested and works fine under a user account.

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But…

Yeah, somehow, I don't have access to my HKCU\Software\Classes key Sad (Stupid Windows)

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Is this your computer?

The standard Windows install shouldn't make HKCU\Software\Classes as restricted from the current user.
So, is this a work or school or public computer? Because if it is, then you got one seriously paranoid admin out there, if they locked that down!!

I made this half-pony, half-monkey monster to please you.

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My father's

Yeah, it's my computer (well, really, my dad's), but I'm not an admin, I'm a regular user on this computer.

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[tray]
information=Informationen
pref=Einstellungen
pause=Pause
restart=eXpresso neu laden
quit=Beenden
upd=Update
exec=Ausführen

[pref]
language=Sprache wählen
dblclickset=Doppelklick-Einstellungen
configassoc=Erweiterungen bearbeiten
configapps=Anwendungspfade bearbeiten
configwin=Überwachte Fenster bearbeiten
autoassoc=Auto Associate New To Host
confedit=Konfigurationsdatei bearbeiten

[sendto]
reconvey=ReConvey
linksfolder=Links Ordner öffnen
sendtofolder=Senden an Ordner öffnen

[messages]
runfile=Möchten Sie die ausgewählte`nfile in der gewählten Anwendung öffnen?
filenotassociated=$extension Dateien werden zur Zeit nicht durch eXpresso erkannt.`nMöchten Sie eine Zurodnung für sie erzeugen ?`n(Für exe und com Datein nicht empfohlen!)

[shared]
btnbrowse=...
btnOK=OK
btnquit=Schliessen
alltypes=Alle Dateien
typeapp=Anwendung
extexists=$extension Datein sind bereits zugeordnet!`nMöchten Sie die Zuordnung ändern?
assocboxtitle=eXpresso | Wählen Sie die Anwendung, die $extension Datein öffnen soll.
appnotfound=Die Anwendung $prog`ndie $extension Dateien öffnen soll, wurde nicht gefunden.`nMöchten Sie die Zuordnung aktualisieren?
filenotfound=Die gewünschte Datei, $file, wurde nicht gefunden.

[dblclickgui]
labelfast=Schnell
labelslow=Langsam
buttontest=Diese Schaltfläche`nerlaubt Ihnen`ndie Empfindlichkeit`nmit der gewählten Geschwindigkeit`nper Doppelklick zu testen
oneclicktt=Einfachklick :`n- vergangene Zeit : $deltaClickms`n- erlaubte Zeit : $speedms
dblclicktt=Doppelklick!
labelvalidate=Prüfen
labelcancel=Abbrechen
dblclicktitlegui=eXpresso | Doppelklick-Einstellungen
textdc=Doppelklick

[extgui]
extguispltext=Erweiterungsübersicht wird geladen...
boxadd=Zuordnung ergänzen
textadd=Sie können den ... Knopf verwenden, um nach einer Datei mit der gewünschten Erweiterung zu suchen oder sie können diese, beginnend mit einem Punkt, selbst eintippen.
btnassoc=Zuordnen
boxapps=Zugeordnete Anwendungen
boxmain=Hauptanwendung
boxsecondary=Alternative Anwendung
textassoc=Um die Software auf dem Host Computerzu nutzen, bitte "host" in das Feld tippen. Sie müssen auf "OK" klicken, damit die Zuordnung übernomen wird.
boxext=Erweiterungsübersicht
delext=Erweiterung löschen
delassoc=Zuordnung löschen
exttitlegui=eXpresso | Konfiguration der zugeordneten Erweiterungen 
titleselectfile=eXpresso | Wählen Sie eine datei zur Zuordnung aus
errorext=Fehler beim Hinzufügen der Zuordnung
nofile=keine Datei zum Zuordnung ausgewählt
noext=Ist für die ausgeählte Datei nicht bereits`neine erweiterung zugeordnet?
noapp=Bitte wählen Sie erst eine Anwendung bevor`nSie versuchen diese Zuordnung zu erzeugen.
nullType=*Keine Erweiterung

[appgui]
appguispltext=Anwendungliste wird geladen...
boxapps=zugeordnete Anwendungen
lblabspath=Absoluter Pfad:
lblrelpath=Relativer Pfad:
apptitlegui=eXpresso | Konfiguration Anwendungspfade
titleselectapp=eXpresso | Wählen Sie eine Anwendung für diese Zuordnung
spashchgmnt=Pfad wird bearbeitet...
splashfin=Beendet!
boxappspath=Pfad zur gewählten Anwendung
howto=um den Pfad zur gewählten Anwendung zu ändern klicken Sie bitte auf den Anwendungsnamen in der Box auf der linken Seite, dann bitte "..." klicken, um den neuen Pfad zu suchen. Bitte "OK" klicken, um den neuen Pfad zu speichern.

[wingui]
wintitlegui=eXpresso | Konfiguration überwachter Fenster
lblwinclass=Ahk_class:
delmanagedwin=Verwaltes Fenster löschen
boxwins=Verwaltete Fenster
boxwinsclass=Ahk Class des verwalteten Fensters
noclass=keine Class ausgewählt!
alreadymanaged=Das Fenster $window wird beeits verwaltet!
helpout=Um ein weiteres Fenster zur Verwaltung durch eXpresso zu ergänzen bitte, Shift + Win halten und auf die Titelleiste des Fensters klicken, oder (wenn Sie die ahk_class bereits kennen) können Sie mehrere Fenster durch eintippen des vollständigen Klassennamens gefolgt von einer Pipe | eingeben.`n`nSie müsssen auf "OK" klicken, damit die Änderungen übernommen werden.

[rungui]
runtitlegui=eXpresso | Ausführen
txtrun=Ausführen
txtalt=Alternative ausführen
ddoptions=Immer im Vordergrund|nach Ausführen minimieren|nach Ausführen schliessen
keywordprompt=Schlüsselwort für $app eingeben
keywordtitle=eXpresso | Schlüsselwort
runfiletitle=eXpresso | Datei zum Starten auswählen
makekeyword=Schlüsselwort erstellen
nofile=keine Datei zum Ausführen ausgewählt

Paid for Software more or less?
What You need is OSS!

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Sweet! Thanks!

Sweet! Smile

Thanks!

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***Update****

***Update****

This is just an update for you guys so you know what's been going on Smile

I'm looking through ConveyPortable for ideas on how it does it.
so sendto convey is almost finished, and theming is going to be a bit harder, but I've got the general idea.

Could you guys hold back on Locales though? I want to add some more GUI options first. Smile

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eXpresso file associations Parameters

Originally posted under "PortableApp Development" I was encouraged to move this post to here.

The question:
Is there any way to make it where eXpresso only associates files on the portable-drive to the designated programs(ie run mkv on vlcportable)? That way, even if eXpresso is running, the hosts files on the hosts computer will not be affected, and still run on their own designated programs(ie run mkv on Media Player Classic).

Also, I need to be able to be able to allocate (if thats the right word) the file association so that it's already programmed/assigned upon plug-in. I don't know if I worded that right, but basically I don't want the user to need to assign the file(s), when they plug it in. They plug in the drive, portableapps platform auto-loads (as will eXpresso if necessary) and they are able to view and open one mp3 listed, one mkv listed, and three docs.

To gluxon: I thank you for your suggestion and I took you up on trying Xenon Portable (File Browser) but there seems to be a couple of problems. First, file types are missing in the file association options, namely mkv. Second, I went ahead and tried using an avi, just to see how the program works, but idk if Im doing something wron. It doesnt take. After associating the avi extention with VLC Portable in Xenon, AVIs still play in media player classic. I tried running the video with Xenon open, and without.

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Misunderstanding

gluxon was trying to tell you that you'll need to use Xenon; it doesn't do anything with the host computer, IIUC, it just changes file associations for things you open within Xenon. Things you open within FreeCommander, Windows Explorer, or any other app will use either the host file associations or (depending on the file explorer) custom associations specific to that file explorer.

You can pre-create file associations very easily: just set the file associations ahead of time. eXpresso will store those, and you should be good to go.

Judging from your auto-load comment, you'll want to use the Platform's auto-run option (I believe it has one; if I'm wrong about that, just edit autorun.inf)

Unfortunately, there's no way to change file associations just on the removable drive at the moment; that's why gluxon suggested Xenon.

Cheers!

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I actually think, due to the way eXpresso works, it should be pretty easy to change it so that it only activates on the drive it's run from. I'd even do it myself, but I'm not familiar with AHK so...

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Confussed

Im really sry, but Im not following. . .
On the first paragraph I get the impression that I need to use Xenon, and that with xenon "it doesn't do anything with the host computer" files. But then Im seeing two contradictions, the first in paragraph two encouraging me to use eXpresso, and then paragraph four stating "no way to change file associations just on the removable drive".
Also, in Paragraph one you said "it just changes file associations for things you open within Xenon" leading me to think that the user in going to be forced to open Xenon, and then open each file through Xenon, but then in paragraph two you state that with eXpresso "You can pre-create file associations very easily".

Im not trying to argue, Im just trying to figure out which program I need to to use to meet my needs and how to do it. I really appreciate your time and help.

to Bruce: Id love to know how to do that too ^_^

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I'm saying that Xenon

I'm saying that Xenon Portable meets all your needs Smile

Until I finish with some other eXpresso stuff, I might be able to implant that feature Smile

For now, you can use Xenon Portable when you want a portable file associator for your drive.

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Actually, there is a way. I

Actually, there is a way. I didn't think of it until I thought of it late at night Blum
Get the window title, and if it starts with the targeted drive letter, then it'll associate Smile

Example: B:\Documents\Video\SomeFile.mkv - Explorer (almost typed explorer as eXplorer :P)

I can see if I can get that feature in, but right now, I'm putting Convey and Theming as first priority.

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Thanks ^_^

kk, I am really really sorry, but Im doing something wrong. Im under the impression that "Get the window title, and if it starts with the targeted drive letter, then it'll associate" refers to Xenon, but Setting>File Association Editor only allows me to association the extensions. I thought it might be a stretch, but i even tried adding the location of the file in question "F:\Documents\Videos\Full Metal Alchemist - 42.avi" as an extension, but that didn't do anything. I also tried eXpresso (just in case), but that didnt work either.
I want to try this out, but I guess the instructions seem a bit vague to me. Sad sry.

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He was referring to how he was intending to program it into eXpresso, not Xenon. You just seem to be getting confused because there's two different trains of thought going on here. In any case, the Xenon associations work by associating extensions, yes. eXpresso does also, but in the future it might support associating only stuff on the portable drive. Right now it doesn't, though.

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lol

oki doki. thank you

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Getting the window title seems hackish and makes too many assumptions about how Explorer works (especially since eXpresso allows you add custom window classes). Also, pretty sure Explorer only puts the name of the current folder in the title bar by default, not the full path (unless you manually change the setting). Wouldn't it be safer to get the full path of the file you're opening and match that against the drive letter eXpresso is running from? That's what I was originally thinking.

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Oh yeah >_< That works too

Oh yeah >_

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***Update 2****

***Update 2****

1.3 is being skipped. I'm doing something completely new and AWESOME for 1.5, and I've already included a bunch of code that I'm too lazy to remove just for a quick 1.3 release. Sad

Theming is crazy hard :/

I want to see if I can get opinions on how people think this should work. Biggrin

Here's the file structure I'm using.

\Themes
       \Default
               \Default.ini
               \paused.ico
               \running.ico
               \information.ico
               \preferences.ico
               \running.ico
               \convey.ico
               \typeandrun.ico
               \pause.ico
               \refresh.ico
               \quit.ico

As you can see, there's a bunch of extra icons in it. I thought that since there's a bunch of empty space to the right of the tray menu, why not add them with icons? It also makes theming more flexible.

And yes, I have two running.ico's up there Blum
The default icon for the current theme is going to be used as the theming submenu

Here's what I'll be using for that Biggrin
http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic21991.html

Starting from 1.5, eXpresso will be using the original icon from NeoRame. I accidentally used the wrong one in the first place. But Mr. Magical's icons will be renamed and be put into a theme called "TEA" Blum

That way, the people who liked the name "TEA" (Temporary Extension Associator), will be able to have that back Biggrin

But mainly because Mr. Magical's Icons look like poisonous tea Blum

Here's Default's Theming package. Anybody want to make some suggestions before it's official?

http://bensawsome.com/downloads/store/users/gluxon/eXpresso/Default.7z

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Nice

I like the new icons. No complaints from me. Smile

Will 1.5 have the "only associate stuff on your drive" feature, also? If so that might give me a reason to consider eXpresso relevant again. Either way I'll still prefer PFA, but I'll definitely keep eXpresso around if that feature makes it in.

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It might Depends on how hard

It might Blum

Depends on how hard it'll be for me Smile

Edit: Yep, I'm making it an official feature of 1.5, it's not in alpha 1 though

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Okay. 1.5 Status. I'll start

Okay. 1.5 Status.

I'll start with the Bad News Biggrin

Bad News: Convey is still dysfunctional. But I'm not that afraid since the Convey Portable source is all I need to repair it Smile
I also can't find out how to use MI.ahk at all. But INI reading and theming works perfectly. Biggrin

Good News: I've made a huge leap. I successfully created a "Theme" and Convey sub-menu, that works like the locale sub-sub-menu. It doesn't conflict with anything, and successfully stores last theme info, and changes tray icons.

1.5b1 should be approaching very, very, very soon Biggrin
I can't give a specific release date though... sorry Sad

I'm ditching the NSIS launcher, so eXpresso's file structure will be more like the PortableApps.com Platorm's.

Bugs:

  • Broke everything in the Information Category (Not making it view right files)
  • Tray Menu icons don't work (I need to refer to MI.ahk manual)
  • Convey needs major fixing (Convey Portable Source!!!)
  • Language Menu disappears (Know the Cause)

The above is just some stuff for me. I'm afraid I'll forget all this when I go to sleep Blum

Two of them are features that need to be worked on more, and the other two are minor bugs with the new file structure.

Okay, for those of you who are REALLY anxious... I'm bored. Here's eXpresso 1.5 Alpha 1.

THIS IS ONLY FOR TESTERS, DO NOT USE REGULARLY, BE AWARE OF BUGS ABOVE. THIS IS NOT AN UPDATE

There's also a reason why this isn't offically posted :/

http://bensawsome.com/downloads/store/users/gluxon/eXpresso/eXpressoAlph...

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Haven't done any thorough testing yet, but one thing I noticed right off the bat:
http://stashbox.org/792369/eXpresso_blackBg.png

The eXpresso icon looks weird against a black background. It's fine against white, but as you can see from the screenshot above, any other color background makes it look really weird and unrecognizable.

Second, it appears you're still using the old "poisonous tea" icon for eXpresso in the PA.c menu, and the app itself appears to be compiled using that icon as well. Are you going to change that?

Edit: Just found a bunch of places where it still says "Cafe" instead of "eXpresso". So you might want to do a search-and-replace on it. Smile

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Actually, I think it looks

Actually, I think it looks cooler like that Blum

I don't know what I'm going to do with the eXpresso exe icon. Mr. Magical's icon releates to the program better than NeoRame's. It has the eX dipped in red goo. So I think I might leave it with Mr. Magaical. I might change it to the blue .eX icon for the menu though.

I'm pretty sure I've cleared all CAFE to eXpresso stuff. Could you please be more detailed?

Thanks Smile

[Edit: Lang problems fixed :)]

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The "Cafe" I found was in the Edit Extensions dialog. I didn't look very deep, but that one popped out at me almost immediately.

Edit: Found another one. The Type and Run dialog has "Cafe" in the title bar. I'm sure there's more, too. Like I said, just do a find and replace on "Cafe" to "eXpresso". Simple and painless, rather than having to sift through the source manually trying to fix them all.

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Yeah, I've found no traces

Yeah, I've found no traces left of Cafe, well other than the stuff in the credits.

I've opened every file eXpresso uses, and I know the Replace function. :/ None of them contain cafe in it but the comments section at the top. (Giving credit to original)

Mine says eXpresso at the top of Type and Run, and at the Edit Extensions dialog. I've also searched all the lang files too.

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Weird

Just downloaded 1.2.5 Dev Test 5 in the OP, and you're right, no "Cafe" to be found. However, the 1.5 alpha you just posted has lots of "Cafe" everywhere. Really weird. Check it out and see for yourself.

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Uh... I'm clueless. Alpha 2

Uh... I'm clueless. Blum

Alpha 2 is almost ready anyway, I've gotten the Menu icons fix. I need to make a small theming bug fix quickly.

The information thing is still broken. It seems that if I want it to read the App\Docs\Information.txt, the name of the item in the menu changes to App\Docs\Information

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Status Update 2

These status updates are fun to write Blum

Good News: I've found that the MoreInfo function was a custom function made probably by the original devs. It was in info.ahk, so yeah, I look dumb right now.

The Menu Icons works perfectly and very smoothly. I've almost got the Information menu section all patched up... and everything's going nice Smile

I've also added something useful, you can now press Win+Alt and RightClick to show the tray menu, for people who have their tray menu disabled.

I have to thank Bruce too. I found a bunch of Cafe in some .ahk files. He was right. I think they happened from when I was merging Wraithdu's source with mine. Biggrin

Bad News: There pretty much is none, other than that Convey is still very dysfuctional, scratch that, it's barely 3% done Blum

Regular News: I'm planning on possibly adding Glass to eXpresso? The todo.txt file mentions that the Type and Run dialog should be cleaned up and made less ugly. I think rearranging it around and adding Vista/7 Glass to it would make it look incredibly awesome Blum

http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic31236.html

I'm posting a new forum topic for eXpresso 1.5 Alpha 2 probably in a couple days. I want the 1.5 release to be perfect Biggrin

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Glass disabling

Please put an option in to disable glass; some of us don't like the RAM usage (remember the Compiz discussion? Blum ), and I'm not terribly delighted with the whole transparency thing in the first place as my vision's not the best.

Thanks!

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I was already going to do

I was already going to do that Smile

So.. fine, I admit it, I love EyeCandy.
But blank screens also amaze me. Blum

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Assuming Aero is already enabled on a system, a given window uses the same amount of VRAM (yes, VRAM, not system memory) regardless of how much glass it does or doesn't have. So RAM usage is a poor argument for not adding additional glass to a window.

I'm also not sure I understand all the hating on Aero and similar systems. Do they facilitate useless eye candy? Of course. But don't forget the main goal of compositing: to offload all the display stuff away from the CPU and main RAM onto the otherwise underutilized graphics card. That increases overall performance rather than hindering it, and the minute you go full-screen, all the resources in use by the DWM are relinquished to the full-screen app until it closes.

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Glass

RAM usage is a relatively minor argument on my end; the bigger thing is the transparency. I've got eye trouble that makes semi-transparent windows difficult to work with. I'm trying to "play along" by turning my contrast & brightness all the way down, etc., but transparent windows are impossible to work with like that.
Fortunately, most apps have a transparency option so I can turn that off, but I wanted to be sure eXpresso wouldn't force that.

Lest someone accuse me (justly) of being "out to get" eye candy: the problem here isn't glass (I'm still on XP, so I doubt I'd have the ability to use it anyway); the problem is hard-to-see transparent windows, which would probably be the XP equivalent of glass.

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Yeah, transparent (actually translucent) windows are bad, I don't know why so many devs think they're a good idea. Glass however has the opposite purpose: The chrome is generally rendered as glass so as to get out of the user's way and highlight the window's actual contents, which is almost always what you want to focus on.

The problem comes when glass is abused simply because it looks cool (WMP 11 on Vista is a big offender, and the Add Gadget window would be the prime example) and used for some--or worse, all!--of the actual client area of the window rather than just the chrome.

So sure, Aero could be put down as eye candy, but the vast majority of its features actually have a practical purpose. This is in contrast to, say, Compiz, which seems to be designed to be eye candy first and practical... well, just about never. Blum

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Be prepared to see Glass

Be prepared to see Glass overuse in eXpresso then Blum

And I'm removing the option to disable it! Muhahah!!!! (Just Kidding :P)

Edit: I've sucessfully added glass, only it looks horrible without glowing aero text. So that's the next step Smile

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The download link

Is the download link at the top of the page for the latest version/beta? Or will that be released soon?
Also, was wondering if you had decided if you would include that "USB Exclusive Paramaters" feature in the future?

Edit:
I went ahead and downloaded from the link provided at the top of the page, again not sure sure if this is the most recent updated version. I know that there was a lot of back and forth about the appearance of "Cafe" as opposed to "eXpresso", but I couldnt follow if the CafeMod was a fix to this or not, but when I add a new extension, a prompt appears above the tray icon that says

Cafe:
A new association has successfully been added.

Please excuse me if this has already been addressed.
I love this app gluxon, its magically fantastic ^_^

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Thanks for testing Yep, the

Thanks for testing Smile

Yep, the associate only on USB feature will be in 1.5 Smile
Just not in Alpha 2 Sad

Also, As mentioned up here I mentioned that Bruce was right, there were a couple cafe stuff left. This isn't in the 1.2.5 release since it probably happened when I was re-merging source for 1.5

I have to thank Bruce too. I found a bunch of Cafe in some .ahk files. He was right. I think they happened from when I was merging Wraithdu's source with mine.

1.5 Alpha 2 (Stable) will be arriving today in a new thread Smile

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Haha

"Alpha 2 Stable". That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one. Blum

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lol I'm naming it Alpha

lol Blum

I'm naming it Alpha because it's incomplete. Glass is still doesn't look good (text has to glow, and that's complicated), convey isn't even implanted, and all I've done for the associate on drive only is add the gui for it Biggrin

And it's stable since all the above features are disabled and some other new features are working like a charm, and regular users can use it regularly.

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