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sPortable 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1 (portable launcher for Skype)

The current sPortable release is for Skype Classic 7.x which has now been deprecated by Microsoft. This updated release aims to update sPortable to the new Skype for Desktop 8.x series. Any existing Skype Classic settings are not used by Skype 8.

Download sPortable 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1
1+60MB download / 180MB installed
MD5: dc178045404f3a2634ac71e2b988714a

Release History:
2018-09-01: 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1 - Updated version
2018-03-19: 8.18.0.6 Dev Test 2 - Updated version
2018-03-18: 8.17.0.2 Dev Test 2 - Updated version, disabled automatic upgrade
2018-03-05: 8.16.0.4 Dev Test 1 - Initial Release

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Wrong URL

The current version from DownloadURL=https://go.skype.com/skype.download is Skype-8.17.0.2.exe but in installer.ini it is Skype-8.16.0.4.exe and it can not be controlled. If you change the DownloadURL to https://endpoint920510.azureedge.net/s4l/s4l/download/win/ you can control the downloaded version.

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Hello John,
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No. That's an unaffiliated dev. There are portablization issues with that package which may cause it to leave some stuff behind. And it's using the Skype trademark illegally.

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Thanks

Thank you John, could you be a little bit more specific about "There are portablization issues with that package which may cause it to leave some stuff behind".

Would it be possible to see / get the launcher code from the new created sPortable version, like

  • Custom.nsh
  • sPortable.ini

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8.17.0.2 Dev Test 2

Updated to current Skype download. Disabled automatic upgrade check in Skype.

UPDATE: Had originally mistyped as .1 instead of .2.

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Will It Replace Current Skype on Installation

If I have the current Skype (7.x On PA Suite) on my system and I install this, will it replace it (Which i what I want)?

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Yes

This will replace sPortable 7.x. I do not know how well settings will be preserved, though. That's what I was hoping testers would confirm.

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History

I only care about the History.
Is that preserved?

If it does I will try it and report if I notice something.

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Doubt It

Based on the current implementation, I don't think it preserves anything from Skype 7. It's basically a different app.

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The downloaded copy of

Skype is not valid and can not be installed. Please try again.

The installer expect to get Skype-8.17.0.2.exe MD5: a995257ebccdfc10b8d13128cdbb7665 but the downloaded file is with MD5: 827a0aeaa24e779fb81f7ee448e8f816, i.e. for Skype-8.18.0.6.exe

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Updated to 8.18.0.6

Updated to 8.18.0.6. Still looking for any feedback from testers to be able to release this officially.

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Leave files and folders
  • Leave files and folders in %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Skype for Desktop
  • Leave files and folders in %LOCALAPPDATA%\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
  • Startup automatically if the user doesn't disable this from Skype settings
  • On 2nd start leave folder in %APPDATA%\Skype - because of auto-start
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Why Does It Happen?

I don't understand how could this happen.

I had thought the launcher sets the System Variables of %APPDATA and %TEMP and others to the local folder of the product.

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Dropped Command Line Support

It appears that Microsoft dropped command line support for redirecting a profile in the latest releases of Skype 8. I'll have to adjust the launcher to handle moving everything to/from the PC.

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What Do You Mean?

John, what do you mean by that?

Let's say I open a CMD windows.
I adjust System Variables and then launch from that CMD window Skype.
Do you say it will ignore those System Variables?

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No

Altering APPDATA is an awful idea as it will affect every app launched from the current app (clicking a link from Skype, for instance). We don't permit apps to do that for official release except for very specific instances (a game with no other way to do it and that doesn't start any other app is the only one I can think of). Skype used to have command line options for /datapath to set the profile location and /removable to ensure it knew not to do any system level stuff. Skype 8 used to have --datapath= command line option that did the same as /datapath before. It appears this was removed as well. So we'll have to move things to/from the local PC. It's worth keeping in mind that Skype is no longer the Skype app it used to be. It appears to now be an electron app, a web app bundled with a Chromium-based web browser.

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I See

Thank you for sharing the information.
It makes sense.

I wish Microsoft would play along and offer those flags in future versions.

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Might be wrong version which has been downloaded

Hello John,

it might be possible that you use the wrong download link. So far as i know this will download the Skype App and not Skype for Desktop.

Try to change the URL to

DownloadURL=https://go.skype.com/windows.desktop.download
DownloadName=Skype
DownloadFilename=Skype-Setup.exe

This will download each time the latest version of Skype for Desktop, here the parameter --datapath is still working.

Anyway it is also not required to disable the update process, it is a nice feature if it can be disabled, but if you want to stay on the latest version the update process need to be modified, like this (customer.nsh):


${SegmentFile}

!define NAME "Update"

${Segment.OnInit}
${If} ${FileExists} $EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe
;=== Show the splash screen before processing the files
newadvsplash::show /NOUNLOAD 3000 1000 1000 -2 /BANNER "$EXEDIR\App\AppInfo\Launcher\${NAME}.jpg"
;MessageBox MB_OK $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
${If} ${FileExists} $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
RMDir /r $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
${EndIf}
Rename "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone" "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old"
nsExec::Exec `"$EXEDIR\App\Helper\innoextract.exe" -s -d "$EXEDIR\App\Skype" "$EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe"`
Rename "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\app" "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone"
Delete "$EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe"
newadvsplash::stop /WAIT /FADEOUT
${EndIf}
!macroend

This will check during the startup, if a new update is available, if it is there it will be extracted, a backup of old version will be created and the new version will be taken in place. During the update process another splash screen will be shown.

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why do i get this even if my

why do i get this even if my system just booted up?

https://i.imgur.com/Gfrj9vU.png

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Local Running

A local copy of Skype is likely installed and set to run in the system tray on startup (which is its default setting).

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how do i terminate skype for

how do i terminate skype for windows if this is the culprit? i'm on win 10 and i couldn't find the app in the system tray or in the background processes.

EDIT: managed to run the app by adding the --secondary argument.. although i can't get the datapath to work. i use two instances all the time.

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Removed

Microsoft removed the ability to use the datapath switch in 8.1x and later. This package is currently not portable. I'd wager there's a good chance secondary will be removed as well since you won't be able to run two separate instances of 8 with different settings due to datapath being removed anyway.

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thanks John.

thanks John.
might as well resort back to classic Skype.

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Cannot download app itself

The online installer won't let me download the app itself, and it keeps on saying "Connecting...", and then fails the download and cancels the install.

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Support for Skype 7.x Will Be Removed on Sep 1, 2018

Microsoft published it will remove support for Skype 7.x on Sep 1, 2018.

See:

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2018/07/16/upgrade-to-the-latest-version-of...

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sPortable 8.18.0.6 Dev Test 2 (portable launcher for Skype)

Hi,
The 8.18.0.6 cannot be downloaded from Skype saying that the download version is not valid.
"The downloaded copy of Skype is not valid and can not be installed. Please try installing again."
I am on W7 and have no access administrative rights... not sure if it is not the reason.
Some more tests done on this subject as Skype will stop supporting the classic version soon I guess.
Thanks

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installation does not work

Installation does not work. Download of Skype startet two times and finished each time, but after that is says that the donwload was corrupt:

Output folder: Z:\PortableApps\sPortable
Preparing to upgrade sPortable...
Create folder: C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded
Downloading Skype...
Installing sPortable...
Rename: C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded\Skype->C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded\Skype-8.18.0.6.exe
Create folder: C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded
Downloading Skype...
Installing sPortable...
Rename: C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded\Skype->C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded\Skype-8.18.0.6.exe
Delete file: C:\Users\zzz\AppData\Local\Temp\nstD325.tmp\Downloaded\Skype-8.18.0.6.exe
The downloaded copy of Skype is not valid and can not be installed. Please try installing again.

I am on Win10pro and have administrative rights.

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No joy with Skype 8

Played around with this for an hour or so but no joy. Was able to locate a copy of Skype 8.18.0.6 and place it into the temp folder so the sPortable installer would use it - and Skype 8 started and ran for ~20sec and then immediately wants to upgrade again - "Get Ready For Awesome". There is no longer any option to disable auto-upgrade. Deleting the SkypeSetup.exe will let you restart Skype and run for another 20sec until it redownloads it. Wasn't able to test the secondary account although it appeared my chat-messages were preserved (or it started re-downloading them again - not sure).
There is a discussion here about the update issue:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/forum/skype_windesk-skype_star...
which mentions a gpedit solution - but I can't confirm as I am running 7 Home.
Oh well, I'll restore my old sportable folder and enjoy another month of Skype before figuring out what next.

Thanks for all your efforts John!

Still working on a catchy tagline.

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sPortable 8.18.0.6 Dev Test 2 (portable launcher for Skype)

Hi,
Apparently the last version of skype is 8.26.xx. Not sure if this is not explaining the reason of the request for update.

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I wonder if there is an

I wonder if there is an update to sportable or a progress in development as the last update on this is more than 4 months old. The current version will stop working in 4 weeks, so there is not much time left for testing. If it is clear that there won't be a portable version due to restrictions from MS side anymore a short notice would be great so that I can think of alternatives. But thanks anyways John for your great work with portableapps.com!

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Obviously we are getting a
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been using this for months,

been using this for months, working pretty good, maybe you can look into the src and borrow?

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Updated and Working

The newer versions of Skype Modern are again properly supporting the command line options, so I've updated sPortable's Modern 8 test to the current version.

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I'm thinking this release

I'm thinking this release will drop support for Windows XP and Vista.

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Already Did

This release is for Windows 7 and up.

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Messages

Some kind of 'test' message boxes pop up during installation. The first box appears to be the command line arguments that get passed, and the 2nd is just a box that says 'test'. Installation seems to work fine, though I haven't thoroughly tested it.

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Ignore

You can safely ignore those. I inadvertently left them in.

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New skype

Hi,
Do we have a last downloadable version somewhere even a test version?
Thanks

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What?

The link is literally right in the main post. This *IS* a test version of the current version of Skype 8.

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At a first glance everything

At a first glance everything looks ok. I copied my existing conversations into this version, and everything was there as expected. Seems to work as it should. Great work!

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How?

Could you please elaborate how did you move all conversations from the old Skype to the new?

Thank You.

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Local

I believe they mean local Skype 8. To my knowledge, Skype 8 can't read anything from Skype 7.

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It works, a little bug

Hi,
I unpacked sPortable 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1 in c:\users\me\downloads\sportable\ with no problems.
For the unpacking process the app asked me to close all active instances of skype (sportable 7 last version).

I can see all conversations from my sportable 7.x updated to minutes before.
I can see 4 instances of the Skype 32bit executable in the resource manager.

Little bug
------------
Right click on Skype on the application bar --> Exit DOESN'T WORK.
Right click on Skype icon in the notification area --> Exit DOES WORK.

I'm on Windows 10 Home x64 updated.

Thanks for spending your time working on this, bye.

Your welcome

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Skype updated to 8.30.0.50

Skype updated to 8.30.0.50

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Skype 8.30.0.50

the installation goes into error because it looks for the previous version of Skype. Is there a way to change the installer without waiting for the new package on top of this thread?
Thank you

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