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sPortable 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1 (portable launcher for Skype)

The current sPortable release is for Skype Classic 7.x which has now been deprecated by Microsoft. This updated release aims to update sPortable to the new Skype for Desktop 8.x series. Any existing Skype Classic settings are not used by Skype 8.

Download sPortable 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1
1+60MB download / 180MB installed
MD5: 6f6f3bbdc64ace37ffd7477b92f88069

Note that when it fails to install, it's likely a new version was released by the publisher. Please drop a comment when this happens and I'll update and remove the comment. There's no need for additional "me too" comments when this occurs.

Release History:
2018-10-27: 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1 - Updated version
2018-10-25: 8.33.0.41 Dev Test 1 - Updated version
2018-10-04: 8.31.0.92 Dev Test 1 - Updated version, removed test messages, added taskbar pinning
2018-09-01: 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1 - Updated version
2018-03-19: 8.18.0.6 Dev Test 2 - Updated version
2018-03-18: 8.17.0.2 Dev Test 2 - Updated version, disabled automatic upgrade
2018-03-05: 8.16.0.4 Dev Test 1 - Initial Release

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Hello John,
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No

No. That's an unaffiliated dev. There are portablization issues with that package which may cause it to leave some stuff behind. And it's using the Skype trademark illegally.

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Thanks

Thank you John, could you be a little bit more specific about "There are portablization issues with that package which may cause it to leave some stuff behind".

Would it be possible to see / get the launcher code from the new created sPortable version, like

  • Custom.nsh
  • sPortable.ini

Many thanks.

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Will It Replace Current Skype on Installation

If I have the current Skype (7.x On PA Suite) on my system and I install this, will it replace it (Which i what I want)?

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Yes

This will replace sPortable 7.x. I do not know how well settings will be preserved, though. That's what I was hoping testers would confirm.

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History

I only care about the History.
Is that preserved?

If it does I will try it and report if I notice something.

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Doubt It

Based on the current implementation, I don't think it preserves anything from Skype 7. It's basically a different app.

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Updated to 8.18.0.6

Updated to 8.18.0.6. Still looking for any feedback from testers to be able to release this officially.

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Leave files and folders
  • Leave files and folders in %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Skype for Desktop
  • Leave files and folders in %LOCALAPPDATA%\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
  • Startup automatically if the user doesn't disable this from Skype settings
  • On 2nd start leave folder in %APPDATA%\Skype - because of auto-start
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Why Does It Happen?

I don't understand how could this happen.

I had thought the launcher sets the System Variables of %APPDATA and %TEMP and others to the local folder of the product.

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Dropped Command Line Support

It appears that Microsoft dropped command line support for redirecting a profile in the latest releases of Skype 8. I'll have to adjust the launcher to handle moving everything to/from the PC.

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What Do You Mean?

John, what do you mean by that?

Let's say I open a CMD windows.
I adjust System Variables and then launch from that CMD window Skype.
Do you say it will ignore those System Variables?

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No

Altering APPDATA is an awful idea as it will affect every app launched from the current app (clicking a link from Skype, for instance). We don't permit apps to do that for official release except for very specific instances (a game with no other way to do it and that doesn't start any other app is the only one I can think of). Skype used to have command line options for /datapath to set the profile location and /removable to ensure it knew not to do any system level stuff. Skype 8 used to have --datapath= command line option that did the same as /datapath before. It appears this was removed as well. So we'll have to move things to/from the local PC. It's worth keeping in mind that Skype is no longer the Skype app it used to be. It appears to now be an electron app, a web app bundled with a Chromium-based web browser.

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I See

Thank you for sharing the information.
It makes sense.

I wish Microsoft would play along and offer those flags in future versions.

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Might be wrong version which has been downloaded

Hello John,

it might be possible that you use the wrong download link. So far as i know this will download the Skype App and not Skype for Desktop.

Try to change the URL to

DownloadURL=https://go.skype.com/windows.desktop.download
DownloadName=Skype
DownloadFilename=Skype-Setup.exe

This will download each time the latest version of Skype for Desktop, here the parameter --datapath is still working.

Anyway it is also not required to disable the update process, it is a nice feature if it can be disabled, but if you want to stay on the latest version the update process need to be modified, like this (customer.nsh):


${SegmentFile}

!define NAME "Update"

${Segment.OnInit}
${If} ${FileExists} $EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe
;=== Show the splash screen before processing the files
newadvsplash::show /NOUNLOAD 3000 1000 1000 -2 /BANNER "$EXEDIR\App\AppInfo\Launcher\${NAME}.jpg"
;MessageBox MB_OK $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
${If} ${FileExists} $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
RMDir /r $EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old
${EndIf}
Rename "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone" "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone.old"
nsExec::Exec `"$EXEDIR\App\Helper\innoextract.exe" -s -d "$EXEDIR\App\Skype" "$EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe"`
Rename "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\app" "$EXEDIR\App\Skype\Phone"
Delete "$EXEDIR\Data\Skype-Setup.exe"
newadvsplash::stop /WAIT /FADEOUT
${EndIf}
!macroend

This will check during the startup, if a new update is available, if it is there it will be extracted, a backup of old version will be created and the new version will be taken in place. During the update process another splash screen will be shown.

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why do i get this even if my

why do i get this even if my system just booted up?

https://i.imgur.com/Gfrj9vU.png

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Local Running

A local copy of Skype is likely installed and set to run in the system tray on startup (which is its default setting).

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how do i terminate skype for

how do i terminate skype for windows if this is the culprit? i'm on win 10 and i couldn't find the app in the system tray or in the background processes.

EDIT: managed to run the app by adding the --secondary argument.. although i can't get the datapath to work. i use two instances all the time.

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Removed

Microsoft removed the ability to use the datapath switch in 8.1x and later. This package is currently not portable. I'd wager there's a good chance secondary will be removed as well since you won't be able to run two separate instances of 8 with different settings due to datapath being removed anyway.

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thanks John.

thanks John.
might as well resort back to classic Skype.

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Support for Skype 7.x Will Be Removed on Sep 1, 2018

Microsoft published it will remove support for Skype 7.x on Sep 1, 2018.

See:

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2018/07/16/upgrade-to-the-latest-version-of...

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I wonder if there is an

I wonder if there is an update to sportable or a progress in development as the last update on this is more than 4 months old. The current version will stop working in 4 weeks, so there is not much time left for testing. If it is clear that there won't be a portable version due to restrictions from MS side anymore a short notice would be great so that I can think of alternatives. But thanks anyways John for your great work with portableapps.com!

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Obviously we are getting a
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been using this for months,

been using this for months, working pretty good, maybe you can look into the src and borrow?

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Updated and Working

The newer versions of Skype Modern are again properly supporting the command line options, so I've updated sPortable's Modern 8 test to the current version.

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I'm thinking this release

I'm thinking this release will drop support for Windows XP and Vista.

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Already Did

This release is for Windows 7 and up.

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Messages

Some kind of 'test' message boxes pop up during installation. The first box appears to be the command line arguments that get passed, and the 2nd is just a box that says 'test'. Installation seems to work fine, though I haven't thoroughly tested it.

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Ignore

You can safely ignore those. I inadvertently left them in.

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New skype

Hi,
Do we have a last downloadable version somewhere even a test version?
Thanks

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What?

The link is literally right in the main post. This *IS* a test version of the current version of Skype 8.

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At a first glance everything

At a first glance everything looks ok. I copied my existing conversations into this version, and everything was there as expected. Seems to work as it should. Great work!

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How?

Could you please elaborate how did you move all conversations from the old Skype to the new?

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Local

I believe they mean local Skype 8. To my knowledge, Skype 8 can't read anything from Skype 7.

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Sorry, was travelling for

Sorry, was travelling for some time....

I installed the new 8.x version parallel to the old 7.x version and then copied the Data/settings directory from old version to the new version.

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It works, a little bug

Hi,
I unpacked sPortable 8.29.0.50 Dev Test 1 in c:\users\me\downloads\sportable\ with no problems.
For the unpacking process the app asked me to close all active instances of skype (sportable 7 last version).

I can see all conversations from my sportable 7.x updated to minutes before.
I can see 4 instances of the Skype 32bit executable in the resource manager.

Little bug
------------
Right click on Skype on the application bar --> Exit DOESN'T WORK.
Right click on Skype icon in the notification area --> Exit DOES WORK.

I'm on Windows 10 Home x64 updated.

Thanks for spending your time working on this, bye.

Your welcome

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Updated to 8.31.0.92

Updated to 8.31.0.92, removed test messages during install, adding taskbar pinning via the PA.c Platform

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Hello, am i the only one

Hello, am i the only one which is not getting any notification when a chat message arrive?

I'm on Windows 10 with 8.31.0.92 Dev Test 1. I have enabled notification under Skype settings.

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Windows limitation

Windows will only show its new-style notifications for apps which have a Start Menu shortcut. I may introduce code to automatically create and remove one along the lines of what I do with Telegram (which automatically creates its shortcut). For now, you can manually create a shortcut to the actual skype.exe in your Start Menu to get them working but if you click it, it'll launch in local mode.

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Updated to 8.33.0.41

The package has been updated to 8.33.0.41.

When a new version is released, the installer will show an error that the downloaded copy is invalid. Just post a note and I'll update.

Note that it cannot be version-independent without forgoing antivirus and security checks. We check both our apps and publisher apps before distribution so we don't redistribute viruses like other projects have.

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installation succesful with ltd. service

Hi John,
Thanks for the update

sPortable 8.33.0.41 Dev Test 1 successfully :
1. installed.
2. Logged in
3. Internet Messaging [text chat]

Unsuccessful
1. Skype-to-Skype calling
Did use echo to test video call
nothing happened --it became missed call.

Perhaps this due to MS Virtual assistant Cortana has replaced Skype Echo.

Skype status online was checked.
https://support.skype.com/en/status/ Skype Status: Limited service

By the way, I copied Part info due to very long log
which was found on temp, what does it mean --->
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dumps at C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
[....:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(304)] checkpoint is C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes\crash_checkpoint.txt
server is https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c...
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reporter is electron-crash-service
[:ERROR:crash_service.cc(311)] could not start dumper

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Not working as expected

I just did a quick test (8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1) on the PC at my workplace (Windows 7, no Admin, launched from Active Directory folder). The content of the Skype window appeared for a short time, then disappeared and appeared after some loading again and so on. In the taskmanager (https://i.imgur.com/hr6Fcd3.png), it seemed like the Skype executable was restarting itself again and agin, unil after around 10 times, it quit itself.
I couldn't find any possible explanation for this behavior.

(sPortable also leaves the directories mentioned in #10 behind.)

Edit: It seems to work on a different PC with the same setup, so maybe there was a misconfiguration at my first test.

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results : Skype 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1

Hi John,
Here is an update on Skype 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1

I downloaded and successfully installed
portable Skype 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1
last October 27 [Saturday]

Over all it worked-- more details below.

Good
- This version of Skype runs better and quieter
- No longer heavy on CPU
- Looked same as previous Skype 8 Desktop versions
- video and voice calls worked..
- Can send Instant messages+ text

New feature
- Read Receipt
- side by side "face view"
- receive notifications when one reacts to message
- Manage how people find you
--appear in suggestion or search result

Not so Good :
minor change is Skype windows screen during video call
- supposed side by side "face view"
between me and my contact is gone

- Size of my face suppose to change when I click it
Now my face remained like a "thumb nail view" ??
so tiny!-- cannot see my self..

- Portable Skype 8.33.0.50 Dev Test 1 still leave traces
in the computer after logout or quitting Skype.

I still have to manually delete it.

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Traces

If there are specific traces, please post what they are (exact paths, what version of Windows you're on, whether you have local Skype, etc) so I don't have to hunt for them across multiple platforms and scenarios.

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Update: minor traces? not really sure

Hi John,

Sorry information given earlier incomplete.
n00b in computer Sad

Below are info, which I hope will be useful.

Thanks in advance.

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NOT sure if these are traces.
PERHAPS, these are minor traces?
1. skype icon &
2. skype-preview Crashes
Windows Version used : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit

https://vgy.me/JoAFjK.jpg

file path

Directory of C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp

03/11/2018 17:52 .
03/11/2018 17:52 ..
03/11/2018 17:37 1,776 2d3932d5-07a7-4367-8077-3e4495346a5b.tmp.ico

Directory of C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes

03/11/2018 17:37 .
03/11/2018 17:37 ..
03/11/2018 17:38 3,749 operation_log.txt

Inside Operation log:

[6620:8336:1103/173717.982:VERBOSE1:crash_service_main.cc(78)] Session start. cmdline is [--reporter-url=https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c... --application-name=skype-preview "--crashes-directory=C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes" --v=1]
[6620:8336:1103/173717.985:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(145)] window handle is 00350362
[6620:8336:1103/173717.985:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(300)] pipe name is \\.\pipe\skype-preview Crash Service
dumps at C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
[6620:8336:1103/173717.985:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(304)] checkpoint is C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes\crash_checkpoint.txt
server is https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c...
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reporter is electron-crash-service
[6620:8336:1103/173717.986:VERBOSE1:crash_service_main.cc(94)] Ready to process crash requests
[6620:8956:1103/173719.289:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(333)] client start. pid = 3868
[6620:8956:1103/173726.112:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(333)] client start. pid = 8824
[7236:1268:1103/173726.216:VERBOSE1:crash_service_main.cc(78)] Session start. cmdline is [--reporter-url=https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c... --application-name=skype-preview "--crashes-directory=C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes" --v=1]
[7236:1268:1103/173726.222:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(145)] window handle is 0174044C
[7236:1268:1103/173726.222:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(300)] pipe name is \\.\pipe\skype-preview Crash Service
dumps at C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
[7236:1268:1103/173726.222:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(304)] checkpoint is C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes\crash_checkpoint.txt
server is https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c...
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reporter is electron-crash-service
[7236:1268:1103/173726.222:ERROR:crash_service.cc(311)] could not start dumper
[6620:5196:1103/173828.051:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(341)] client end. pid = 8824
[6620:8956:1103/173830.140:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(333)] client start. pid = 4152
[5748:5008:1103/173830.221:VERBOSE1:crash_service_main.cc(78)] Session start. cmdline is [--reporter-url=https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c... --application-name=skype-preview "--crashes-directory=C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes" --v=1]
[5748:5008:1103/173830.226:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(145)] window handle is 00150276
[5748:5008:1103/173830.226:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(300)] pipe name is \\.\pipe\skype-preview Crash Service
dumps at C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes
[5748:5008:1103/173830.226:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(304)] checkpoint is C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\skype-preview Crashes\crash_checkpoint.txt
server is https://rink.hockeyapp.net/api/2/apps/a741743329d94bc08826af367733939d/c...
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reporter is electron-crash-service
[5748:5008:1103/173830.227:ERROR:crash_service.cc(311)] could not start dumper
[6620:5196:1103/173842.432:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(341)] client end. pid = 4152
[6620:5196:1103/173842.585:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(341)] client end. pid = 3868
[6620:5196:1103/173843.585:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(362)] zero clients. exiting
[6620:8336:1103/173843.585:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(540)] session ending..
[6620:8336:1103/173843.585:VERBOSE1:crash_service.cc(545)] clients connected :3
clients terminated :3
dumps serviced :0
dumps reported :0
[6620:8336:1103/173843.585:VERBOSE1:crash_service_main.cc(99)] Session end. return code is 0

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Why is nsh file of sPortable

Why is nsh file of sPortable.exe not released in source folder. I would like to recompile sPortable.exe with 2.exe which stores data in data2 data3 which manages multiple profile. instead of installing multiple copies with application on usb flash or portable ssd.
there are also other application which does not have source nsh.

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multi account

One of my accounts has stopped working with skype 7.4
I tried to run with keys
--secondary --datapath="path\to\account_1"
--secondary --datapath="path\to\account_2"
And all works fine!
So John, can you add support for multi accounts?

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Out Skype-8.34.0.78

new version of Skype 8.34.0.78

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