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OpenOffice.org Portable 2.2 Pre-Release (Testers Needed)

I've just posted a pre-release of OpenOffice.org Portable 2.2. As with the 2.1 pre-release, this version now includes a long-awaited feature: the ability to use Java from the portable device. This means you can use the OpenOffice.org functionality that depends on Java (Wizards, some Base functions, etc) even from a PC that doesn't have Java installed. (->read more in German)

Java is not yet GPLed, so it can not be hosted on SourceForge. Nor can it be repackaged due to licensing. So, you'll need to supply your own. To enable Java, copy the Java files from a local install, usually C:\Program Files\Java\[version number](eg.: 'C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_11'). Copy the whole structure intact (so you'd have a lib and a bin directory in this Java directory when complete. Copy those files to either of these locations:

?:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable\App\Java
?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java Download OpenOffice.org Portable 2.2 Pre-Release 1 (68.5 MB)Download OpenOffice.org Portable 2.2 Pre-Release 1 (German) (62.6 MB)

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I'll...

Give it a shot, Thanks.

Java is not yet GPLed

It's coming?

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Yep.

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Darn you.

I was editing my comment, but by the time I went to save the changes, you had alredy commented it.

What I wrote was, I downloaded a few minutes after this post was posted, and it installed to 35%, and now it's at 70%, and it's been takinf a LONG time to install, and my apps take forever to launch. It's probally cause my computer's been on too long. So I'll try again in the morning.

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When is this gonna be released?

Not an exact date but but just an idea of how long OOP 2.2's release takes place.

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Cool

As in 2.1, the "common files"-Java works great.
AFAICT, it doesn't leave anything behind.
But there is a missing parenthesis in the java_readme:
(so you'd have a lib and a bin directory in this Java directory when complete.
Nice work, John!

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Java Version

What about Java 1.6?

I actually have C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01.

Can I use these files?

I updated my java just to make sure I have the latest version.

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of course

Just make the appropriate changes to the INI guidelines

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Which folder

Not to sound panicky, but OOP does not need to know which folder you put the java files in? No .ini for that in OOP?

I used PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java.

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Read it again

It explains exactly what to do. It's all automatic in OOP's part. You just need to create the appropriate INI file for java in the directory you put Java in.

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Gotcha. Couple of other ?'s

I appologize. I never downloaded and installed OOP 2.1. So I had not done the java trick yet. Got the .ini It was the fact that it could be put in either place that confused me. I'm not a dev and did not know if OOP would check either place.

Is the CommonFiles\Java a preview of things to come? Could other programs use this one day from the flash drive?

Also is the one base .exe trick no longer working?
I tried to search for where I got it, but could not find it. I still had that base .exe launcher in my OOP folder when I installed, but it does not show up on the menu. The idea was to reduce to one the number of OOP programs that show up in the PAM. That launcher still works BTW, it just does not show up in the PAM. The other OO programs did until I moved the launchers out.

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Preview, Unsupported

It is a preview of things to come, which is why it is the recommended install location. I can not give more details at the present time.

The base .exe was a one-time hack I'd released. It will not work in later releases and is not supported. A solution is coming soon, though.

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Ryan, reverse your slashes and then delete this. \ not / PC vs http:

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Nah

It's technically not a path anyway.
Plus, I prefer forward slashes Blum
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Hmm

So, if I'm correct, /PortableApps/CommonFiles/Java should contain the bin/ directory, with no others in between? And does the bin/ directory contain javaw.exe?
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It forgets

I've followed the instructions for the location of the Java files, changed the javaportable.ini file to reflect my version of Java. OpenOffice will see and use this version of Java after I tell it to under Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > Java. However, if I quit OpenOffice and restart, I have to tell it where Java is again. I've tried both locations for Java described above. Is this expected behavior?

Otherwise, everything in the prerelease 2.2 seems to be working fine.

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Don't tell it

Don't tell it where Java is. The launcher is set to figure it out automatically. Please double-check the directions. Most likely, you're including the extra jre_1.5.011 etc directory in the path, which you should not be doing.

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Actually, I'm not doing that

I first tried not telling it where Java was and it wouldn't work at all. Then I tried several permutations of directory locations as follows: (I'm using just ?\bin to describe the relative location of the two Java subdirectories bin and lib)

?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\bin and ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\javaportable.ini

then

?:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable\App\Java\bin and
?:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable\App\Java\javaportable.ini

then

?:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable\App\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin and
?:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable\App\Java\javaportable.ini

then

?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin and
?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\javaportable.ini

and all of them behaved the same.

My javaportable.ini is

[JavaPortable]
Vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
Version=1.6.0_01
URL=http://java.sun.com/

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Same problem, but figured out personal workaround...

I followed all the instructions for setting up JavaPortable, but it wouldn't work until I refrenced the JavaPortable directory itself in OO.org.... <_ willfully="" turning="" aside="" from="" the="" truth="" is="" treason="" to="" one="" self.="" phantom="">

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Based on your version i

Based on your version i make it one in french for testing (sorry for my bad english)
it's working perfectly
Just a remarke after analysing the procedure
if the user change or add some data or param for java in the option after close the application all is gone

the difference i have made is : change 'user' directory by 'share'
that make OOo use it because OOo check there also
to confirme that see in this file 'jvmfwk3.ini'

'OpenOffice_Portable_2.2_PRERELEASE_en-us.paf\OpenOfficePortable\App\openoffice\program\jvmfwk3.ini'

inside the file you can see this
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UNO_JAVA_JFW_USER_DATA=$UserInstallation/user/config/javasettings_${_OS}_${_ARCH}.xml
UNO_JAVA_JFW_SHARED_DATA=$BaseInstallation/share/config/javasettings_${_OS}_${_ARCH}.xml

maybe beter way don't know but working wel for me

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Works great. Kevin "I know

Works great.

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Ready to publish?

Hi John,

in my mind we are now ready to publish OOo Portable 2.2.
If You want we could use the new NSIS-Installer for OOo too.

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works perfect

John,
I actualy find it much faster on start up. and no errors data loads into sas and spss fine and copies into mel perfectly.

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Can we release it soon?

Hi John,

is there any problem with 2.2?
All the feedback we get was ok.
It seems to work perfect.

If there is any trouble, please let me know it.

Could we release now 2.2?

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Few things

1. Had to finish the new PortableApps.com Installer system as all apps will come in this now.
2. I haven't had a chance to fully review your OO package. I need to look at it in depth after I had to pull your Thunderbird package for illegally including additional components.

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Illegal?

What additional components make it illegal?
I will remove it soon!
I could not find any hint via mail or post about it before.

Could be that I use the same like the older versions before...

And btw. the OOo package is the official German package from de.openoffice.org. Remember, I am member of the German OOo team as a told You several times...

It is hard to read all the forum entries to find the last Betas or Pre-Releases...

So please let me know, what to do ... Remove Ligtning and GPG (because this are the only add ons)

I think that is what a Beta or Pre-Release it for, to fix bugs or mistakes isn't it?

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New to this forum but not to OpenOffice---some comments

I hope version 2.2 does *not* go to release, but instead it waits for OOo 2.2.1. That version is currently being tested as a release candidate over at OpenOffice.org and it contains several bug fixes. In fact, starting with this version, every other OOo release will concentrate on bug fixes to help restore the stability that has been degrading over the past few versions.

As a steady OOo user, I had so many problems with 2.2's instability handling frames and graphics that I finally had to give up and return to 2.1... which is how I ended up here, because the portable version was recommended to me and I decided to try it.

Now I'll be happy to help test new releases here since I'm doing that on OOo anyway. I'm not a developer, just a user, but do have a technical background (I'm a technical writer and editor). I can't get into code discussions, but I can test from an average user's experience.

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JRE (and GTK) files location

Dear John,

In order to switch easily between JRE, it would be great to use the following directory structure instead of the current one:

?:\PortableApps\$APPNAME$Portable\App\JRE\$VERSION$\
?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\JRE\$VERSION$\ 


The variable $VERSION$ could then be replaced dynamically with the value specified in a jreportable.ini file located in the directory JRE:

[JREPortable]
Vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
Version=1.5.0_11
URL=http://java.sun.com/


Same idea for the GTK used by many portable applications... What about the following structure instead of specifying the GTK path in $APPNAME$Portable.ini ?

?:\PortableApps\$APPNAME$Portable\App\GTK\$VERSION$
?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\GTK\$VERSION$ 


gtkportable.ini (located in directory GTK)

[GTKPortable]
Version=2.0


Moreover gtkportable.ini or jreportable.ini could co-exist in different location in order to setup a priority level depending on the application requirements.

JRE

   1st level of priority (recommended)
       ?:\PortableApps\$APPNAME$Portable\App\GTK\
   2nd level of priority
       ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\GTK\
   3nd level of priority
       ?:\CommonFiles\GTK\


JDK

   1st level of priority (recommended)
       ?:\PortableApps\$APPNAME$Portable\App\JRE\
   2nd level of priority
       ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\JRE\
   3nd level of priority
       ?:\CommonFiles\JRE\

That way you could then have, for example:

       ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\JRE\1.4.2_12
       ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\JRE\1.5.0_11
       ?:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\JRE\1.6.0_01
         jreportable.ini
            [JREPortable]
            Vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
            Version=1.5.0_11
            URL=http://java.sun.com/            

       ?:\PortableApps\$APPNAME$Portable\App\JRE\
         jreportable.ini
            [JREPortable]
            Vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
            Version=1.6.0_01
            URL=http://java.sun.com/  

$APPNAME$ should then use the JRE 1.6.0_01 but the other application shoud use JRE 1.5.0.11. What do you think about it ?

Thanks in advance for your attention.

Kind regards,

Bertrand GILLIS

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Is there any reason

for using different versions of Java/GTK?

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Yes, of course.

A lot of applications are compatible only with a specific JRE. That way it would be easy to configure a specific JRE for some applications and a default level JRE for the others to avoid setup for each application (concept of priority level described in my previous post).

For example, JRE 1.5.x or higher is required to run Apache Tomcat 5.x. If I need to test a J2EE application with a specific JRE (eg. JRE 1.6), I don't really want to replace every time the "\Java" directory with the appropriate JRE before upgrading/switching to a higher JRE for a test scenario.

Another application may require JRE 1.4.x .... and not higher because some compatibility issues may occur when JRE is higher than 1.4.x. If I have only one JRE available, this last application might not work anymore after the upgrade.

I'd like to be able to setup which JRE an application should use. So there is a real need to have several JRE available on a portable device.

Hereby an non-exhaustive list on my portable device using several different versions of JRE :
- Oracle SQL Developer,
- DBVisualizer,
- XMLMind XML Editor,
- Freemind,
- GantProject,
- Eclipse,
- Apache Tomcat,
- ...

The same concept might also exist for GTKs.

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I've created a specific topic for this subject...

Please find it here.

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http://tw-portableapps.blogspot.com/2007/05/openofficeorg-portable-220.html

For all Chinese users who needs 2.2.0.
I made both Trad. and Simp. Chinese versions.

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It works fine!

I'm using the English version everyday. No problems encountered!

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Since

the final of OpenOffice 2.2.1 has been released meanwhile, I hope the upcoming final OOportable will use this.

Btw - the OOportable 2.2 beta worked totally flawless for weeks now...

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Formula and font problem?

Hi,
I just upgraded to portable OO 2.2 pre-release but I have a problem with formulas.
When I try to write a formula, I cannot use one of these characters "()+": they are substituted by a white rectangle. It seems to be a font problem.
I've checked portable OO 2.0.4 and It works correctly.
I'm not shure that the problem depends on the portable version, but users with the official version told me that they don't have this problem.
May anybody check this and report here?

Thanks and Bye

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ehm... I answer to myself.

ehm... I answer to myself. After a windows reboot now everything is correct, so the problem was probably not dependent from Portable OO 2.2.

Thanks and Bye

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