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So Satisfied With The PortableApps Platform Overall

Hello,
I'm so grateful to have discovered such a great piece of software when I did, and quite candidly I really wish that I would have discovered the platform much sooner than I did !! I'm currently running the portableapps software on a San Disk Cruzer Glide 128 GB USB Thumb Drive, while I'm thinking about the subject, is there a certain technical specification that needs to be met so as to be able to the best results overall ? Merry Christmas & Happy New Year To Everyone

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Glad To Hear, Drive Specs

Glad to hear it's been helpful for you. As for drive specs, use something like CrystalDiskMark to check out the performance across a number of different use cases. Most drives are marketed with just a max read/write speed, which is calculated with sequential writes... like copying a big video file to or from the drive. When running apps from a drive, it's the smaller random reads and writes that are more important. And these will often come down to the memory controller, chips, and cache handling of a given drive.

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Hi John,

Hi John,
One thing is for sure, that is that you are an intelligent man to be able to go into so much detail about the technical specifications related to a usb drive, thanks for sharing that information.
David
Update: Here are the results of my first test while using CrystalDiskMark
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CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 28.887 MB/s [ 27.5 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 28.889 MB/s [ 27.6 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 2.835 MB/s [ 692.1 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 2.755 MB/s [ 672.6 IOPS]

[Write]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 11.715 MB/s [ 11.2 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 11.714 MB/s [ 11.2 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 1.127 MB/s [ 275.1 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 1.082 MB/s [ 264.2 IOPS]

Profile: Default
Test: 1 GiB (x5) [D: 1% (2/118GiB)]
Mode: [Admin]
Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
Date: 2023/12/18 0:48:42
OS: Windows 11 Professional [10.0 Build 22635] (x64)

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Comparison

For comparison, I daily drive an SSK 128GB Dual Drive (about $25 on Amazon). It's about twice the cost of your drive but compare its performance. In particular, notice how much faster the random small writes are.

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CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 447.832 MB/s [ 427.1 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 411.288 MB/s [ 392.2 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 136.271 MB/s [ 33269.3 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 24.786 MB/s [ 6051.3 IOPS]

[Write]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 339.905 MB/s [ 324.2 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 334.426 MB/s [ 318.9 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 104.159 MB/s [ 25429.4 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 37.679 MB/s [ 9199.0 IOPS]

Profile: Default
Test: 1 GiB (x1) [F: 0% (0/119GiB)]
Mode: [Admin]
Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
Date: 2023/12/18 12:47:43
OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 19045] (x64)

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John,

John,
Thanks for sharing the amazon link, I don't think that I'm actually needing a dual connection (usb c & usb type a) thumb drive. I came across this one:
t.ly/bkqB0 do you think this might perform somewhat better than the thumb drive I'm currently utilizing ? Just for comparison purposes:
Amazon Basics 128 GB Flash Drive - Read speed up to 130Mbps and write speed up to 30Mbps
Current SanDisk 128 GB Flash Drive - Read Speed up to 130MB/s and write speed up to 40 Mbps

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Sequential Numbers

The "up to X" numbers are sequential mostly meaningless in terms of app performance. Even if you only use the USB-A connector for now, that drive I linked will be MUCH better than either of these others. If you hate the dual sided thing, the Samsung Bar 128GB ($20) will also give good performance. I have a 256GB one that I use for carrying system images so can't benchmark it at present. Check out the reviews on Amazon in that link and you'll see people post pictures of the CrystalDIskMark stats.

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John,

John,
I've taken your suggestion and went ahead & purchased one of the samsung 128 GB samsung drives because I really do in fact value your opinion.
David

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Samsung USB Drive Testing Results

John,
Here are the results of the testing with my new samsung usb drive:

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CrystalDiskMark 8.0.4 x64 (C) 2007-2021 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World: https://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

[Read]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 412.929 MB/s [ 393.8 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 397.755 MB/s [ 379.3 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 12.617 MB/s [ 3080.3 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 11.199 MB/s [ 2734.1 IOPS]

[Write]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 66.319 MB/s [ 63.2 IOPS]
SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 65.947 MB/s [ 62.9 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 24.306 MB/s [ 5934.1 IOPS]
RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 18.581 MB/s [ 4536.4 IOPS]

Profile: Default
Test: 1 GiB (x5) [F: 2% (2/120GiB)]
Mode: [Admin]
Time: Measure 5 sec / Interval 5 sec
Date: 2023/12/21 15:05:53
OS: Windows 11 Professional [10.0 Build 22635] (x64)

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Notice a Difference?

Nice! You notice a difference?

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John,

John,
Overall it does seem somewhat faster, I got rather frustrated earlier today when I received my order from amazon. Even before I opened the plastic shipping bag I for some reason felt rather uneasy about doing so. And as it turns out I had every reason to as I quickly got frustrated when I examined the product packaging and noticed the the metallic housing at the end of the outer shell by the male usb A end was dented in and I quickly decided to repair the metallic end myself so I could at least be able to plug the drive into a vacant female usb 3.0 jack.Thank goodness I had success in reforming the end well enough that I was able to get the drive plugged into my computer. I had a amazon customer service chat session and after speaking with three different agents the third one deemed it necessary to provide me with a full refund of my purchase price which I thought was fair enough. When comparing my previous SanDisk 128 gb and my new Samsung 128 gb drive do you feel like there's enough of a difference? At this point I guess it really doesn't matter since essentially my new usb drive is free.

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