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December 21, 2008 - 12:15pm
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Language Packs make problems during installation with OOP 3

I installed the new portable version 3 today - THANKS TO THE AUTHORS!!! - after having uninstalled the "normal" version 3.

When I tried to add several language packs for v3 I got into trouble. The lang packs wouldn't recognize the portable version at all in neither subfolder I tried.

Then I got the idea
- to rename the folder \portableapps\OOP3\App\openoffice temporarely into
openoffice.org 3,
- installed several Lang packs,
- renamed the folder back to the original name "openoffice".

Everything seems to work fine even on another computer from USB stick. On the other hand I have no idea where else the lang packs left files.

So I have 2 Qs:
(1) Is there an easier way to install additional languages?

(2) Why does the portable version not use the original folder name "openopffice.org 3"?

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December 21, 2008 - 12:47pm
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Not Yet Supported

The language pack installers from OpenOffice.org are made to only work with the local install. We would need to repackage them for portable use.

We may or may not release additional language packs in addition to our supported full packages as it is a lot of extra work to build and maintain for the 0.01% of users who would want multiple interface languages.

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December 21, 2008 - 2:35pm
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TNX

Thanks for that piece of information. I understand the problem better now.

Would I damage my OOP3 installation by integrating the lang pack with the trick of temporarely renaming a folder as I described?
It seems to work and I am happy with that solution.

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December 21, 2008 - 4:17pm
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some answers ...

first, the folder OpenOffice.org 3 cause problems esp. for upgrades, that is one reason we dont use it. There were some other problems with pre-release 1 because of this folder.

second, die installation with this trick will leave entries in Your local registry and some other files/informations for ininstall.

This trick will not demage Your OpenOffice.org 3 Portable installation but will mess up Your host system and thats why ist not recommended.

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December 21, 2008 - 4:34pm
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Hmm

Hey Marko, would it work if we created an installer helper that could rename the drive's openoffice folder to OpenOffice.org 3, launch the language pack setup pointing it to the proper place and once it finished, clean up the local PC registry entries? It would require admin rights, but it might be an easy way to quickly make OOo Portable available in multiple languages.

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December 22, 2008 - 5:10am
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Registry entries...

Meanwhile, I had an intensive discussion via Ccleaner.com with my XP MUI registry and found some interesting details:

  1. I had an OOO3 (non-portable) installation with 5 additional lang packs and several other add-ons without entries in the Windows Add and remove programs menu. I un-installed first the lang packs, than OOO3 - one after the other. I never interfered with any of the folders in my OOO3.
    There still existed 15 registry entries left from OOO3 concerning the
    ..\Basis\program\python...,
    ..\Basis\program\help\en...,
    ..\share\uno-packages\cache... folders.
    .
  2. With the additional lang packs installed by temporarily renaming the OO folder in OOP3 (portable) I really got about 30 registry entries for each lang pack, a total of almost 150 for 5 lang packs. Impressive!
    It was no real problem to delete them with the help of the Ccleaner.
  • Q: The portable MUI version with 5 additional lang packs works perfectly on other computers. Switching between the languages is easy. Why are so many registry entries necessary anyway?

Thanks again to all the people who keep this fantastic software running!
Have a nice and relaxing holiday season and a wonderful 2009!

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December 22, 2008 - 7:36am
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Nope!

... cause this makes no sense.
To create such a solution will take longer as the current way to create portable language packs and the result will be a package with more problems than a real benefit.
As John said admins rights are needed, but thats not the real no go. There will be a lot of registry entries on the host computer and we will have no secure way to catch and deletem them all.

Perhaps, if we will have a way to create the portables in future direct from source over the builtbots there will also packages for the languagepacks without this issue.

In the meantime I prefere languagepacks as plugin installer.

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December 27, 2008 - 3:11pm
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Extract the langpack installer?

I notice that you can open the installer with 7-zip, and there is a CAB containing the localized files. So, is there a way to just extract those files and copy them over to OOo Portable, because I don't want to run the installer?

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