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Portable Apps Menu Mod R30

Updated to R30: Aug 14th Just some bug fixes

  • Edit Category Dialog Not Linked to Buttons
  • Adding an App, or Changing a Category Icon Cause categories to not reload properly on menu refresh
  • Category changes were lost if the menu was refreshed before exiting
  • Renaming a category did not resort if the current sort order is not manual.
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R29 Changes: Aug 13th

  • Apps can now be moved using the keyboard or mouse scroll wheel
  • When a new external app or category is added then view will shift so the added item is visible
  • If an app is moved to a category, the view will be shifted, and the category opened if necessary so the item is visible.

R28 Changes: Aug 12th

  • Relative Paths now used for all storage.

R27 Changes:

  • Category icons can be customized for each individual category (right click, Category, Edit Category)
  • External Apps (Apps on the drive but outside the portableapps tree can be added to the menu)
  • Last Sort type is remembered and new categories, and apps should be sorted correctly.
  • A custom hint can be set for each category.
  • Themes now sorted in menu.
  • If no changes are made to the apps, the database is not resaved on exit.
  • Category Icon issues on theme changes and reloading fixed
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German locale R27

German locale R27

download here

EDIT:Forgot one String

Theres a mistake in the dialog when you edit the category. it says two times open icon but i think its supposed to be open and closed

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hehe

jojo !

greetz

locale R28 and for R 27

German Locale

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you forgot one

you forgot one string:

original:
MENU_PAFDATA_EXPLORE=Explore Here...

in german
RedCider translation

MENU_PAFDATA_EXPLORE=Anwendungsordner öffnen...

or
My version
MENU_PAFDATA_EXPLORE=Hier durchsuchen...

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thx

thx man havent seen it Smile

Updated Locale

greetz

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Sort options wrong

Your category sort descriptions are wrong, the Z-A indicates a reverse sort which is not the case, the sort is alphabetical A-Z but the categories are at the bottom.
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In german: Das "oben" und

In german:
Das "oben" und "unten" macht nicht viel Sinn, da die Anwendungen an den Anfang oder das Ende der LISTE geschoben werden. Es sind auch noch Rechtschreibfehler enthalten. "Explorer von hier aus..." macht im Deutschen auch keinen Sinn.

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für anfang und ende bin ich

für anfang und ende bin ich auch.

Hier durchsuchen... für "explore here" ist das kürzeste und trifft den nagel auf dem kopf, finde ich.

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Hier durchsuchen ist das

Hier durchsuchen ist das beste, eindeutig

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jo dann nehmt für eure das .. "hier durchsuchen "

explorer vo hier aus.. ist vom XP powertool
also ist das auch so in ordnung is microsoft übersetzung.
Oben Unten ja ok vegessen ich werds anpassen.
aber explorer ab hier bleibt zumindest bei mir.
und welche Rechtschreibfehler bitte ?
bitte dann auch schreiben oder mailen nich nur ankreiden ich würds dann auch gern fixen wenn einer was findet...

P.S thx xrxca have fixed the A-Z ordering have misunterstood what u meant Biggrin

Updated Locale German R28

komplett überarbeitete Version.

bitte anschauen und sagen ob ich alles raus hab was falsch war und ich hab 2 RS Fehler gefunden.

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Microsoft verbirgt auch den

Microsoft verbirgt auch den Ausschaltenbutton unter "Start"...

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LOL, der war gut, der punkt

LOL,

der war gut, der punkt geht an dich Wink

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ich bin linux user

wie der topic zeigt
ich fahr das alles unter VM Ware
ich hab gar keinen explorer.
Ich brauch das Prog um PS zu Fahren unter Linux.
Und wenn das alles is was dir an Mschrott nich gefällt dann ok.
Und Explorer von hier aus
sagt aus Explorer ab diesem Verzecihnis.
was is daran nich zu verstehen ?

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musst ja nicht stinkig

musst ja nicht stinkig werden, kann dich ja verstehn was du meinst, doch ich finde das klingt besser, es ist kürzer und trifft den nagel auf den den kopf, denn ob explorer hin oder her man durchsucht ebend nun mal nur den ordner. und ich denke mal explorer kommt von explore und heißt nichts anderes als Erforschen, was ja eine art von suchen ist.

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ja aber..

ja aber hier durchsuchen
suggeriert auch nichts stimmiges in meinen augen
dann ja eher
Anwendungsordner Öffnen

wenn ihr darauf abzielt.

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das ist auch noch Ok, wollte

das ist auch noch Ok, wollte mit meiner version auch dem englischen orginal nur etwas näher kommen und es nicht komplett umschreiben. Wink

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Also, Johns Statement zur

Also, Johns Statement zur Qualität von den Programmen hier neulich war eindeutig, es zählt nicht der Speed sondern die Qualität. Dir haben 2 Leute gesagt, dass es nicht wirklich Sinn macht und vll. solltest Du das berücksichtigen, denn Du übersetzt doch für alle. Mir is das auch Käse, denn ich kann's mir auch selber übersetzen. Aber MS als Vorbild zu nehmen, wo Du von neo die für den (mutmaßlich) größten Teil der Nutzer am leichtesten verständliche Version bekommen hast, verstehe ich wirklich nicht.

Die Rechtschreibfehler habe ich übrigens verbessert, aber da Du Kritik nicht aufnimmst, werde ich einfach meine für mich behalten und nix mehr uppen.

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darum gehst gar nich

Das is nich der punkt.
Das is ansichtssache:
Und die Rechtschreibfehler habich gefunden denk ich,
mich stört dass man das hätte auch per email klären können ohne das forum voll zu spammen.
Und ja ich hab die Microsoft übersetzung genommen weil sie sinn ergab.
Hier durchsuchen is genauso unsinn.
wie ich oben gepostet habe wäre dann was ganz anderes evtl besser.
ich vertrage sehrwohl kritik weil xrxca redet ja auch mit mir und sagt wenn ich was falsch übersetzt hab aber er mailt mich halt an und ich verbessers.
weil das is ein englisches forum immernoch und wenn wirs auf deutsch klären wollen wärs halt in ner email besser oder?
ging ja letztes mal auch so ?
deswegen war ich etwas angepisst .

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mit dem spammen muss ich dir

mit dem spammen muss ich dir recht geben, hätt ja auch ne mail geschrieben, bin nur scheinbar zu blöd email addys von usern zu finden denn die werden schenbar nicht angezeigt.

aber nun gut jetzt mal wieder auf english (soweit ich das hinkrieg lol)

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kontakt

du kannst mir auf meiner page
im kontaktformular deine schicken
is https verschlüsselt

www.homeinc.de

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also

also is dann jetzt Anwendungsordner Öffnen den herren entsprechend Biggrin

dann änder ichs ab ....

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I agree with

I agree with it!

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Hey Mädels!

Oben, unten, explore here or anywhere. Denkt Ihr manchmal auch darüber nach, daß Außenstehende Euer kleinliches, peinliches Gezänk mitlesen können?

Relax,
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ja ich weiss

ja ich weiss das darum hab ich ja gesagt alles in ner email zu klären wäre evtl schöner gewesen.

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it was only a little

it was only a little discrepancy.

in the future we use the email way. Wink
but i hope something like that will not happen over again.

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yes of course

hehe
yes i hope it wont happen again,
cause no one of us did perfect translations i think
so if someone got en idea to improve it then
he can mail or simply ask for mail
so the other ones can discuss it together without the whole
public readers will notice.

and of course i always added to my translation an thx to the guys helped me out.
therefore i dont understand why this have happened.

but here we go again Biggrin

so lets go back to work ...

greetz

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External apps path

Great stuff xrxca! The day when I can dump ASuite and have just one menu for my portable apps approaches.

I note that you are storing the absolute path in the .pafdata file. This won't work for me... I need relative paths as I tried to explain in https://portableapps.com/node/8520#comment-45378.

Can you allow the links to be relative to the PortableAppsMenu folder like ASuite and PStart can?

Cheers, Roger

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Misinterpreted

the last message, I was thinking just sorting was an issue, but it's all paths stored. This is changed in R28, all stored paths are now relative. I've also fixed a couple minor bugs I found while changing that.
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Wow! That was quick, thanks

Wow! That was quick, thanks very much.

Now you've done "Add other Apps" with relative paths, where on your priority list is adding notes for each app as we discussed in https://portableapps.com/node/8457#comment-44546, 7 & 8?

I am starting to plan moving all my links from ASuite... I presume you won't be coding an import links from ASuite/PStart?

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No import

Nope, too much of a one time thing.
R28 will be out in a couple hours, (found a couple other bugs in it that I've fixed)

I automate a lot of my release routine and am updating that script at the moment.
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did you miss my first

did you miss my first question in my last post regarding adding notes tied to apps?

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Didn't miss it,

Just playing with it in my code at the moment, to decide how/when it'll get done...

Would you want the Notes displayed in the popup hint?
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I would prefer a properties

I would prefer a properties option on the end of the right click menu for each app, which would allow the Notes to be displayed and anything else that was added in the future.

Edit: thinking more about it perhaps it would be nice to show a few lines of the note in the popup hint

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After an experiment

Putting notes into the hint would be fine except when saved to DB it gets ugly, so I'm dropping that idea for the moment. A properties dialog make the most sense, and the properties dialog should be where anything about the app can be edited (app name, category icon etc, as such it is quite a change and will NOT be in R28)

It'll probably have to be a tabbed dialog with a general tab where the basic info about the app is shown, and the caption, autorun, and hide options can all be set, a Run on Exit tab that has the options related to running on exit (ExitExe, ExitParams, and RunonExit only if the app was run during this session etc.), a Notes Tab. and possibly a Version tab.

Then the question becomes do I drop the options that can be set in there from the popup menu (ie: autorun will be a checkbox in the properties dialog should should there be an AutoRun option in the popup menu?)

Just found another bug, when loading from DB all apps get the External App set so can be removed from the menu.
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If its not too much

of a hassle why don't have both?
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I am used to the ASuite app

I am used to the ASuite app properties tabbed dialogue which isn't dissimilar to what you are proposing. For simplicity I would remove options that can be set in the properties dialogue but wouldn't be upset if you went with Simeon's suggestion of having both.

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Will there...

Be hover hints for programs as well? I'm not sure if this has been discussed of if this is what you're partially discussing, I haven't read all the comments though.

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Menu mode R 27

You r wonderful and highly creative XrXca !! U r meterializing the dreams abt a perfect menu. The improvisations in each mode are highly imaginative! Though there are more miles to go.. u r still much ahead....now as far as the menu is concerned. Thanks a lot. Youn deserve three cheers !!

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Brazilian Portuguese locale

Hi folks, This is my first post and also a little contribution, I´ve been a watchin´ the devel of this project and would like to give a locale file for my language.

http://arquivos.ieintercambio.com.br/fileman/files/portuguese-pt-br.locale

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Alternative explorer

Do you intend to allow the user to set an alternative explorer to MS Windows Explorer?
I use SmithTech's xplorer2 lite edition portable and it would be nice to use it from PAM for the 5 exploring shortcuts.

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It's on my list

I suppose I should post a list of items coming soon, maybe or never.
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U should have ...

known it: as more functionality u put in ur PAM (great job indeed) as more 'special' wishes will follow Smile

ZAP

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I've noticed

Give them an inch and they want a mile.

Anybody else visit userfriendly.org on a regular basis, Sundays cartoon was great.
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Yep

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Korean locale R27...
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Suggestion for opening

Suggestion for opening folder/exploring here:

Some computer setups (like the one I have at work) have terrible netowrking lag, such that trying to explore, with the folder tree open, makes explorer lag while it figures out what drives are networked and whatnot.

Since opening the folder tree is a just a simple click if someone needs it, could you make all Explore actions open the flat file list, no tree?

Alternatively, add a checkmark option to the right click on the folder link buttons (pictures, video, explore, etc) that toggles between Open and Explore. The setting of the right side Explore button could then extend to every program, when clicking on Explore here.

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Minor problem Adding an External App

After adding it's entry doesn't display in the menu.

Work around for me is to exit the menu and restart it.

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Minor problem moving an External App

Can move it to the bottom, and to the top, but it will only move down 4 places then gets stuck, if I then move it to the bottom then move it up, it will move up 11 places then get stuck (in the same place as when moving down). This place is between File Editing & File Utils category folders if that is of interest.

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I dont get this

I am able to move things around all over without a problem, of course that said I generally use the autosort, and now that I'm trying it find the movement to be cumbersome if it has to move a lot, I'm thinking an option in the move menu to use the keyboard (Use Up and Down arrows to move app, Esc when Finished.)

Could you post the Sortorder section of your portableappsmenu.ini file as a comment to my

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OK, I've confirmed the bug

I Think.
It is definitely the sortorder ending up with gaps in the count, you can get it to move, but you have to move it multiple times to do so (this is easier in R29 as you can right click on an app, select Move|Using Keyboard and you can then use the up/down arrow on the keyboard or the mouse scroll wheel to move the app up or down.

I'm not sure how I'm going to fix the counter issue (using the main sort options will fix it, but that defeats the purpose of the manual sort) It could be a lot of lines to rewrite to the config file every time you move something. I have an idea, but didn't have the time to get to it.)
I've also been playing with drag and drop sorting, but that gets really interesting because then people would want the Categories to open if you pause over them, and automatic scrolling all of which would change the buttons on screen including the button your currently dragging.
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Sweet.

Thanks as always for the update, these features are simple amazing. And in case you miss this above,

Will there...
Submitted by Have Some Patience on August 13, 2007 - 8:12pm.

Be hover hints for programs as well? I'm not sure if this has been discussed of if this is what you're partially discussing, I haven't read all the comments though.

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I'm assuming

He means custom hints (rather than just the location popping up) (geez I hope it still pops up, I use the hint when I'm debugging to show me info about the apps underlying object.)

I'm thinking so, I played a little bit with a properties dialog tonight and that would be a natural option in there.
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Perfection is near

Perfection is near Wink

One problem I encounter: The category icons still do not work in the RolledBlue and Vista v2 themes - or am I missing something? Though I am editing the categories the program does not apply the changes...

EDIT: Having just plugged in my stick at the office everything seems to be fine now Smile All icons are the way they should be. Hell knows why this did not work at my other PC at home this morning - but who cares anyway...

Great xrxca!

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Hallo,

Hallo,

eine echt super mod ist das, kann ich auch die icons einer Kategorie ändern?

mfg

or english Smile

its a really good mod, It's a remote possibility to change the category-icons?

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rechtklick auf das menü und

rechtsklick auf das menü und unter kategorie, kategrie bearbeiten wählen.

or in english

rightclick on the category and then ->category->edit category

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German R29
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R29 Portuguese pt-br
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Catagory Icons

Dear Sir,

I have updated R27,28,29. But I am facing problems in Category Icons Like

1 In release 29 In edit mode if you select open/close icon it does not appear in the box selection they are crossed checks. Now if you save it appears in the desktop and well functional But

2 If you install a new application or you move application to the either of the catagory then --- the all of the catagory icons switch back to standard folder icon from the folder icon default.

Kindly explain if i am some were wrong and if it has to be rectified in the soft kindly do it in next release.

Parashar Dhirendra

Parashar Dhirendra

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Two Bugs
  1. So my internal change wasn't so transparent, I missed updating the Category Config dialog to handle the changed object methods.
  2. This one took a bit of figuring, turns out I'm so used to using my own custom wrappers for file selection dialogs that I'd forgotten why I used them and not using them in the menu I missed the fact that an open file dialog in delphi changes the current working directory to the last directory selected in the dialog. This is a problem because all the icon paths are now stored as relative paths so the first load works fine because the path is relative to the application directory on say drive X:, you then load another app from drive C: and your working path is now drive C: so the menu is now looking for the icon on C: (and it surprise, isn't there), fixed.

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Virus??

When extracting my AVG Free indicates that a virus is identified in EjectSript.exe - Virus Identified Worm/Autoit.AD

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this is a false positive

this is a false positive unless you scan with several other AV scanners and several of them detect it as a virus. Because of AutoIt's nature (the scripting language used to write EjectScript.exe) it may be flagged as a virus because it can automate several system changes. Checking the source, you will see that it simply ejects the drive, there are no system changes being made.
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AVK and Kaspersky does not

I scanned it at the moment with AVK 2007
And Kaspersky IS no viruses marked

so definitly false positiv

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Its usually the combination of AutoIT and UPX

That triggers the false positive, I upgraded the version of UPX I use with Autoit because of the false positives that were being generated and they went away (for a while)

This is pretty annoying, it's like making wrenches illegal because someone somewhere used a wrench to break a window.

Although I suppose things are better than they used to be, I remember having to uncompress some executable ages ago because it was flagged as a virus just BECAUSE it was compressed.
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Man you're spitting them out fast!!

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You Rock

I went from using r21b to r30 in just a couple of weeks! You really do work fast, and the quality of the work is fantastic! All of the changes you have made are just awesome.

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Agreed Completely.

And you're so efficient with bug fixes, even the bugs people don't yet notice.

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Could you add a right click

Could you add a right click option to the apps buttons that would give the Run As... dialog? Oftentimes I know the admin logon to a machine, but don't want to logon/logoff to run something like sandboxie (which requires admin rights)

Also, echo again of the Explore Here vs Open Here suggestion: make an option somewhere (perhaps just in the ini) that will Open a directory rather than Exploring it (to prevent the folder tree from loading)

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Run As...

I suppose that's going to be needed at some point, I suppose I'll have to figure out how to call the dialog up
OK it's easier than I thought (at least in XP) by using "runas" as the verb in the ShellExecute call the standard dialog got called up (I happened to be working on something else in Delphi 6 so dropped a button on my form linked to ShellExecute(0, 'runas', 'notepad.exe', nil, nil, SW_SHOW) and it just worked.
It was a shock to me, runas is not listed as a valid verb in any docs I have, it was just a "What the Hey" experiment, I'll have to commandeer the lone vista machine for a couple minutes later today to see if it works there as well.
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now that is awesome

now that is awesome Biggrin

EDIT: http://www.peterprovost.org/archive/2007/02/24.aspx has notepad.exe executed with the runas verb in Vista, so it should work Pardon

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Theming Requests

Great work on the Mod xrxca. I have some ideas I suggested in John's new thread about the original menu , thought I would see what you thought of them to.

Would it be possible to add text effects to the buttons? Like , Shadow , Bold , Underline , Italic , etc. If so would it be possible to have seperate settings for "normal" and "selected" buttons? If we could do that and disable the little outline effect of selected buttons, we could then create effects like text that looks like it is "etched in" (using shadow) and then the "selected" text could appear to "light up" Did I use enough quotes in that? lol

I'd also like to be able to disable icons in a theme , for a text only interface. We could do themes with like an old school lcd display.

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Major

The text effects are possible, but would require changing the program to handle rollover events in the code rather than letting the delphi vcl handle it, and I'm not sure I want to go there at the moment, While Bold Italic Underline and Strikeout are standard, 'shadow' is not, and would require custom painting code for the buttons. Iconless is quite a bit easier.
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Custom icons for applications

Hello!

It's nearly perfect!
A great wish is that I also can choose custom icons for an application.

Sorry for my english,
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Working on it

Actually working on a properties dialog where that amoing other things (like a custom hint) can be set.
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Bug with OpenOffice?

Hi,
First of all: this is my first post!
Second: I love all the great work you're doing here!

But, here is something I found, it could be a bug (in R30):
After installing OpenOffice Portable (English or German, both have the same problem), all programs are added to the list, accept for Base.
I tried adding OpenOfficeBasePortable.exe using the "Add an External Prog" option, but this results in an error: List Index out of Bounds (-1)

Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?

Bye,
Pascal

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This isnt a bug ;-)

but a hack in the menu John T. Haller made so he could have only the separate Launchers (for writer, calc etc) appearing in the menu. But you cant delete it because the other Launchers call the base launcher with parameters.

EDIT

Sorry I meant "OpenOfficePortable.exe".
The Base launcher should show up in the menu.
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I don't get it yet

OOPortable installs 7 executables: 6 for the programms: writer, base, calc, math, impress, draw and 1 for the 'main app' (from which the other programs can be started).
After installing the .paf.exe only 6 exe's are added to the menu: writer, calc, math, impress, draw, as well es the main one. The exe for base is not added, and I found no way so far for adding this!

Just out of curiosity I tried installing the OOoportable Plus - this is a German package (suite) with a lot of other PortableApps added - this version works fine, base is listed in the menu.

Then I tried using this installation with R30 (overwriting all files in the portableappsmenu directory) - base not listed Sad
I tried John's Menu (the newest beta) as well, base not listed Sad

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I found something else as well: the 'slider' or the calculation for the drive space seems to be buggy: after installing only R30 and some themes it showed 7,2 GB free space from 7,0 GB capacity!?! According to windows, my drive has 7,42 GB (7.977.660.416 bytes)

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John's Decision

I just kept it in my code, I suppose with the ability to hide apps I could take it out.

As for the disk space, I have glanced at the disk space code a couple times but haven't bothered really looking at it closely, I'll experiment with a couple drives.
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OO.o Base missing from menu

I just installed R30 and am having this same issue about Base not showing up in the menu. Is there a way to fix this? Quick note, it is not "hidden".
Thanks!

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Must have been a typo

Sorry, finger flub when I renamed the file (I was dealing with a bunch of versions of a few locales and had renamed the wrong file then obviously mistyped when I named it back.)
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Interest mod. I have a

Interest mod. I have a question: why do you use ini file and not xml file for app db? XML is simpler than ini file for apps tree (category and subcategory).

Advice: Don't use bitmap files for big image without trasparency like imgBackground's picture. It is useless and form file (.dfm) and exe file increase in size.
Example:
imgBackground's picture Bitmap Size 683 KB || Exe file 1.40 MB
imgBackground's picture JPeg Size 9 KB || Exe file 813 KB

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XML has it's places

And for some things it is phenomenal, however a lot of things it is getting used for are not what it was designed for, it was designed for 'sharing' data. Now unless there are a whole bunch of programs that are all of a sudden going to find a use for a proprietary configuration file, there is zero reason for adding an XML parser to a program just to store simple grouped configurations which an INI file that can be read using native win32 excels at.
And as for the JPEG vs. Bitmap it's kind of a moot point, the exe gets compressed using UPX which will generally result in an exe that is within a few K either way, and in memory a jpeg uses just as much space as a bitmap because it can't be used unless it's uncompressed, JPEG is a compressed STORAGE format, you still need to map it out to X pixels by Y pixels by Z depth.
And to be perfectly honest I would suspect that a jpeg that has been compressed down to less than 2% will NOT look like the designer intended.
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Ok for xml (I use xml for my

Ok for xml (I use xml for my launcher and I'm curious Smile ).

Jpeg vs BMP: You are right, but I intend that imgBackground.picture in design time and not runtime (load from bmp/jpeg file). Use a bitmap in design time (a bitmap about 400*570 with 3 color, white, black and gray) increase in size uselessly.

Ah, I forgot dfm's size:
main.dfm 1.8MB with bmp
main.dfm 317KB with jpeg

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DFM is just the source

Which really makes no difference to the end user.
However in the case of a simple image there is another option that a lot of people seem to have forgotten exists, a Run Length Encoded (RLE) BMP file, I just tried this and it also dropped the size of main.dfm from 1.8MB to 317KB, and it is definitely a lossless format, although with an image that simple, jpeg had better be lossless too, but I haven't compared the results.
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I know dfm is just source,

I know dfm is just source, but this thing makes difference to developers (for end user, there is exe file Smile ).

Anyway, jpeg is only format example (I say jpeg because I use it for imgbackground.picure in my pam's test for my launcher) and it isn't unique format/algorithm.. Smile

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Personally

about the only real difference from a developer point of view I can see is transfer to or from a VCS, and if any of my programmers were using a lossy image format internally I would insist that a lossless copy of the original image was also stored in the VCS.

And if your going to start worrying about size issues, then all the images and icons should be stored in an external resource file, that way whenever the form changes, the images don't get saved with it, whatever size they are.

This is purely semantics in any case, I'll store images how I want and you can do anything you wish.
Either way it's head and shoulders above when we had to handle all the heavy lifting ourselves (pre VCL, Turbo Pascal for windows)
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R30 Français ?

Hi,

Sorry to ask, I cannot find that R30 French locale.

The help button says "PAM Mod R30, French locale 28", maybe I'm missing sth swhere.

Bst rgds from France

Dom

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Is there a reason why in the

Is there a reason why in the actual version does not seem to be able to run the following .bat file correctly when started from one of the menus buttons being renamed and redirected (to this .bat):

"\PortableApps\TrueCrypt\TrueCrypt.exe /lu /q /a /c n /m rm /v PortableApps\xyz.iso"

This opens the field where to type in the password, but afterwards results in an error message according to which the path (to the TC-volume) cannot be found. This behaviour did not occur in the older versions of the mod.

I have tried to change the entry into "\PortableApps\xyz.iso" as well as ".\PortableApps\xyz.iso" but still I get the same error message...

Any clue why?

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Curious

I'd like to know what directory it is running the batch from, try adding something like this to the beginning of the batch file

CD > MNUCDTEST.TXT
START /W MNUCDTEST.TXT
DEL MNUCDTEST.TXT

There may be another relative path issue that I missed, my first question would be is the directory that should show up in notepad if the above lines are added to the batch file even on the portable drive?
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OK, here we go xrxca:

OK, here we go xrxca:

The .bat file is situated in the folder "P:\PortableApps\BAT".
The output in the MNUCDTEST.TXT is "P:\PortableApps\PortableAppsMenu"

Hope that makes sense...

The only way it does work atm is the above mentioned .bat file with an entry containing a fixed drive letter like

"\PortableApps\TrueCrypt\TrueCrypt.exe /lu /q /a /c n /m rm /v P:\PortableApps\xyz.iso"

But that is not very well when changing PC's often and it is different from the way it behaved in earlier stages where there was no fixed drive letter needed...

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